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Homeless man called a bum, maybe this will change your perspective

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:14 AM
Lets face the facts...Most of us are only one or two paychecks away from being homeless. If something were to happen and we did not receive a paycheck or two, then BOOM!!! We would be out on the streets, so if you think your above it all...don't kid yourself...and please don't judge others harshly.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:19 AM
When I was FORCED out of the Army in 1997, I got unemployment for a few months, went out EVERY DAY looking for work, spent up to 8 hours a day driving all over texas looking for SOME kind of work. Figured since I was a vet, would be easy. I was wrong. There were times I'd drive up to 100 miles away from Killeen TX to find work. I was a certified Paramedic at the time, also had training in light wheel mechanics, administration, shipping/receiving, driver, cook. Noone was hiring. NO ONE.
Unemployment ran out. Sold ALL my stuff, including my army uniforms to a surplus shop to pay for rent. Lost my apartment. Had to live on a friend's couch for about 3 months before family in Florida decided to help me. Borrowed money for a ticket for the greyhound and went to florida with nothing but the clothes on my back and a book in my hand.
Hopechest, I hope to your powers above, you NEVER have to experience what any of us had. Its not pleasant, worrying about where you wil get your money to pay for your next meal

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:19 AM
I didn't even watch,your message was crystal clear.There is very few amongst us that realize,

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 01:30 AM
When you see a 60+year old Lady living in a parking lot because the bigbanks screwed her out of her home your eyes might open just a little.Dont Ever Judge a book by its cover Ive been burned so many times doing that it acually blows my mind .Yes there are a lot of homeless people that you canot help those are the ones who have lost ALL sence of HOPE .Ive been there a couple of times myself ,had a business making 50K a year in 93..then underbid on a contract by a friend and got screwed...Luckily i made it out of that hole cause i was completly blindsided. Untill youve walked a mile in my one legged body please dont tell me anything you know nothng at all about!!

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 02:16 AM

Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by MidnightTide

Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by Hopechest

I don't feel any sympathy for them.

You're probably not a very nice human being.

Guess I am not either.....and who cares about your opinion.

I believe in giving a helping hand, but only to help them get back on their feet. We are breeding generations of people WHO EXPECT THINGS. When society doesn't and shouldn't be giving.

Not everyone is entitled to a home, free healthcare or even food.

(and spare me about children, of course their parents should be responsible for their needs)
edit on 26-5-2013 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)

This is the problem. When you give that helping hand, many of them are not looking to get back on their feet whatsoever so all you are doing is enabling them to continue their destructive behavior.

may god have mercy on your soul,
you have been weighed and measured and have been found wanting,
your lack of care for your fellow man is clear,

continue their destructive behaviour,
you have judged others,
and shall now be judged.

through many reasons people are destitute, but for the grace of god go i,
you are whats wrong with this world,

your lack of a charitable heart dooms you to a hollow life,
i feel you need love to heal.

responsibility is one thing callousness is another,
lest you find yourself on the street, learn to care


posted on May, 27 2013 @ 02:26 AM
reply to post by Hopechest

I do agree with you but I think you are missing a layer of root cause in your comment and that is mental illness. I believe that is the number one reason for homelessness which leads to poor decisions and addiction. Some pretty incredible people land on the streets and are discarded as trash by the rest of society.

Help the weak minded in society and collectively society improves... how do you think our political systems got so messed up? Mental illness affects 1 In 5 of us. Just add stress and watch the fireworks!

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 02:54 AM

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by Hopechest

The U.S.A. has over 50,000,000 people on foodstamps and other
government programs.There are NO JOBS out there for american
citizens.What jobs are available costs businesses too much to hirey
americans.Illegals and immigrants fill these jobs because they can be
paid cheaper wages without any benefits.

Bottomline...Be very careful how you treat others,one day you could
wake up and find yourself in their situation,jobless,homeless and begging
for handouts.

We have way too many leaches sucking off of the system, but our current president and folks like you seem to think it ok to believe that there are not jobs available to those that actually want to work. Thanks to our half assed president and his healthcare reform a lot of the "legal" citizens and immigrants will not be getting benefits when they seek new employment so the cry of "illegals taking our jobs" is even more of a farce than it used to be. There will always be lazy people, there will always be crazy people and there will always be those who feel entitlement to be non productive members of society yet feel they should be taken care of. Foodstamps should be temporary but are widely being abused and used as an income, i got laid off in january from a decent job and have seen literally thousands within 50 miles of my home that offer benefits, upward mobility and wages/salaries. That equate to an average of $18/hour and up that dont require college degree's. Im just glad that i learned from my mistakes during my youth and planned correctly so i dont have to jump on the first one offered. Ihave never been homeless but have had family members who have been. in each and evey case they did it to themselves through drugs or bad choices and while its hard to look at them living on the streets do help in any way other than the mundane is doing them a disservice and enabling the very circumstances for getting there in the first place. I have heard a ton of excuses from homeless folks but have seen very little accountability or desire, for the most part to change their circumstances. Most panhandlers average $40k a year tax free i tend to feel less than sorry for them when in the end they have nothing to show for it than a deeper addiction to the means of their end than they started with in the first place.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 03:56 AM

Originally posted by Hopechest
Most of the homeless people are there because of poor decisions they decided to make in their lives. Many are alcohol and drug abuse victims, but it was still their choice to partake in that.

I have little sympathy for them because they chose to give up.

Once one becomes "homeless" or falls below the poverty line, it is extremely difficult to get out of. While i have had the fortune of not experiencing it, it can be described as a continuous downwards spiral. Once you are in, it is very difficult to get out. You don't have money, you don't have a place to live, therefore your chances of getting a job is very slim, if impossible at all. As a result, the chances a homeless person has of actually getting back into the working class, and having a decent living is slim.

To address your other statement, the reason why a lot of them are criminals is because being in prison is probably a better alternative to living on the streets...
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:01 AM
reply to post by SubTruth

Survival of the fittest!

The lions do not help the lame calf who cannot walk yet! They eat him...
We are no different only a bit more highly evolved. That is a very poor socialist attitude that states we have to take care of everyone. It is also not feasible bad, bad very bad idea...

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:51 AM
Choice, choice, choice... What an utter croc

I have fortunately never been homeless, but have not been far off.

I did NOT choose what family I was born into.
I did NOT choose to have an abusive alcoholic step father, who never called me by my name, only boy.
I did NOT choose to be sexually abused at the age of 6.
I did NOT choose to self harm as a form of emotional expression.
I did NOT choose to self medicate with narcotics.
I did NOT choose the cycle of self harm and self loathing.

Miraculously I managed to break out of a cycle that could have quite easily have led me to be a junkie living on the streets, and believe me it is something at every point in my life I would NOT choose.

Each and everyone of us is a product of the life we have been subjected to in our informative years, we have no right to judge others without knowing what led them to the point that they are at now.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 04:51 AM
reply to post by agentscoly

No I wouldn't say that. Some of these problems just don't exist in other parts of the world. Sometimes its the system of the country you live in that causes the problems.

Why does society exist? To ensure our survival. Why does government exist? Supposedly to take care of infrastructure, security and the redistribution of wealth. It seems yours isn't doing any of that very well.

They call it the 'rat race' but we ain't rats.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 05:04 AM
Thank you for posting this video OP. I think it's too easy to forget that the homeless are people, and whatever poor decisions they have made in life, whatever horrible circumstance has brought them to where they are, and despite their personal demons it's important to remember that they are fellow human beings.

Too often we fail to realize the thin line separating us from them. Losing a job, a family illness, mental illness or addiction can plague the best of us. It's not all laziness or a lack of trying. Certain circumstances put people into a horrible situation where opportunities begin to vanish and they are trapped in a vicious cycle. Can't list a residence or phone number? How do you get a job? Can't get a job, then you can't clean your clothes. Can't clean your clothes, who will hire you? Realize you probably won't be getting a job, become depressed, that depression easily leads to substance abuse, and you're stuck in a pattern that's even harder to break.

It is my belief that in a society such as ours we have a responsibility to care for these people. Basic shelter, food and medicine. I can do without the multitude of crappy public works of art (there are some jokes to be had here-I'm thinking starving artists). I can do without every police station having it's own armored vehicle, and I can stomach a reduction in the number of inmates our tax dollars pay to house for non violent crime. If it means people won't be dying on the street, I don't mind paying more taxes.

My Father used to say "A society should be judged on how it treats it's weakest members." Don't know what it's from, don't really care. It's true.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:03 AM
reply to post by Hopechest

Originally posted by Hopechest
Most of the homeless people are there because of poor decisions they decided to make in their lives. Many are alcohol and drug abuse victims, but it was still their choice to partake in that.

I have little sympathy for them because they chose to give up.

There are many reasons people end up homeless - much of the homeless grew up poor, undereducated, and many are mentally ill from trauma in their lives or from birth defects. Not everyone has the benefit of growing up in a good nurturing household in a safe environment. Really no reason to condemn them.

He hasn't given up as he's still standing, working the people and putting up with humiliating comments from people not unlike you.

Not really sure why someone with such a friendly looking avatar (Tinkerbell) post such mean thoughts towards those who are clearly doing no harm to you. Are you a real person or just a software bot?

edit on 5/27/13 by verylowfrequency because: (no reason given)

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 06:08 AM
reply to post by purplemer

It is all about choices, and pre choices people made with life contract before choosing their role in this lifetime.. Maybe he was rich in another lifetime and hated and abused the poor then? No one will ever know for sure. this man plays an important part to everyone....

Our reaction to his plight is his purpose in life. That being said, this video does make me think about doing more. No matter his decisions is is human and deserves a warm bed and food. He might be just one paycheck away from you and me..... think about it!

My help for the poor in our area? I am growing a survival garden and chickens to give excess food and eggs to the local church pantries and shelters for needy and homeless. I am handicapped myself with polio, but I give all I can to others. We ALL CAN DO something! What can you do?????

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Hopechest
Most of the homeless people are there because of poor decisions they decided to make in their lives. Many are alcohol and drug abuse victims, but it was still their choice to partake in that.

I have little sympathy for them because they chose to give up.

What a Croc of S**!

Most homeless are victims of our Glorious society .

The Economic manipulations of our Banking and Corporate structures .

Our Global Society is built on predation of itself .

The reason so many of us fortunate people fear and despise the homeless is out of the subconscious Fear

That fore the grace of God and the support of government ,friends and family they could be Us .

A Society that spends Billions on Corporate welfare and Killing people for their resources has no moral compass

We could easily provide a system to help All people to become productive members of society again .

The Truth is this is an Evil Wicked Dispicable World full of cut throat self absorbed amoral scumbags ...

And if you dont get it .. you're probably one of them


posted on May, 27 2013 @ 08:20 AM
reply to post by Hopechest

I didnt end up on the street through drugs, nor did I end up there because I made "poor" choices. I ended up there because my family were poor, and forced to sell our house. We were living on peoples sofas, on thier living room floors. Surfing on a wave of occasional furniture. There wasnt always room for me, so, while holding down a job at a frozen food retailer, which didnt pay me enough to rent a place, but kept me in enough food and drink to prevent malnourishment, I lived on the streets.

I used to live on a large roundabout (or traffic circle as it might be known elsewhere). It had several large trees, and some thick low lying plants, which in combination sheilded me from the worst excesses of the wind, rain, and sun. Despite the overhanging branches and leaves, I still had a gorgeous veiw of the night sky. On clear nights, I would lay down, with my trusty thick leather trenchcoat over me as a blanket, and watch the stars. Sometimes a friend would come over to "my place" and hang out. We would drink a couple of beers, and watch for any comets or meteor showers that were due, or talk theoretical physics.

I was what, eighteen maybe nineteen years old back then. Because I had a job, and therefore an income, I realised within maybe forty eight hours of begining my life on the street, that this fact made me somewhat different to those who also resided at the same address. Different in that, I had a steady source of food, or drink. With this in mind, I would ensure that when I was on my way "home" from work, if I came across a fellow resident of the streets, I would note thier position, then I would go to a fast food place, or an all night grocery, and buy them a drink rich in nuitrients, like a pure orange juice for example, and enough fibre and protein rich food to constitute at least the guideline daily amount of one or another vital compound. During the winter, it was more important to make sure that food was hot when it got to them, so I would resort to those soups you heat in the microwave, the sort you get at petrol stations, which was more often than not, where I got them.

Sometimes people fall through the cracks. Sometimes you fall through the cracks as a direct result of doing the right thing. Sometimes you fall through the cracks despite an awful lot of effort, and doing every damn thing you can to avoid it. And sometimes falling through those cracks teaches you some respect for your fellow man, a bit of humility and humanity. I am a better person for my expiriences, stronger too. I have been to the bottom end, and if I am honest with you, aside from the obvious problems that being in such a position causes, the risks it presents, I found it a positive influence in the life I have now. I know now, that I can survive in harsh circumstances, and retain my dignity, my respect for myself, and my respect for my fellow human beings. I know I will not devolve into something ugly, when forced into that corner. If anything, being in that position made me a better man, forced me to confront myself and my life with clarity. It also offered me a chance to do good things for people who were in desperate need. Its fair to say, that being there in those moments of my life, bought me closer to God, allowed me to walk in footsteps that I felt unworthy to walk in.

I regret the circumstances that bought me to the street, but I dont regret a damn thing that happened while I lived there, and if I could do it all again, I wouldnt change a thing.

Now the roundabout has been dug up and done away with, the trees that used to shelter me have been cut down, thier roots dug up. The earth that used to be my matress has been taken away. I live in a place now, with four walls, a door, and the usual trappings of "normal" life. And despite being prepared to admit that my life now is more comfortable than it was back then, I couldnt look you in the eye right now, and tell you that I dont miss having the stars as a ceiling, and a gap in a shrub as a front door, breathing air thats been freshly cleaned of carbon by a tree so old, that its uprooting caused a public outcry. People think that its circling the plug hole to live on the streets. Me? I never felt more alive, on a day by day basis, than when I lived that life.

posted on May, 27 2013 @ 08:43 AM

Originally posted by agentscoly
reply to post by SubTruth

Survival of the fittest!

The lions do not help the lame calf who cannot walk yet! They eat him...
We are no different only a bit more highly evolved. That is a very poor socialist attitude that states we have to take care of everyone. It is also not feasible bad, bad very bad idea...

I have heard this argument many many times. Every time the comparison of humans to lions. WE ARE NOT LIONS! WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS!

So the greedy banksters who dedicate themselves to money and how to acquire it at all cost is your vision of fitness? You honestly think these bloated desk jockeys and their money are something natural? Our society and the people running it are anything but natural.

When you can live in the outdoors using nothing but what nature provides to shelter you and feed you then you can squawk survival of the fittest but lets be honest if you were truly put in that situation you would more than likely die while the homeless would thrive. Take you blinders off.

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 08:51 AM
reply to post by violet

I don't think it's even about giving an individual money on the street. It's about respect for a fellow human being, and not judging them for their current homeless state. It's the energy you put out when you look at a homeless person, the love you send, the eye contact, the acceptance of them as a fellow human worthy of respect.

You can give money to the Salvation Army, to homeless centers or food banks in your own community, or nonprofits that help addicts or the mentally ill. I could go on and on. Your money can go to help the homeless or keep someone for ending up homeless. If you don't have the money to spare, but do care, you can share your talents and time to volunteer once in a while for one of those types of organizations. You can donate goods, furniture, cars - whatever -- to Goodwill, etc.

Do I always give money to every person I pass up on the street? Not necessarily. Sure I don't know if they are "faking" it or truly desperate - how could I know? But to give money to support the "support system" for the homeless - that may be of more overall benefit. But,if I have money handy, I hand it out. If they choose to go buy drugs with it, that is beyond my reach. But I can be kind, show compassion, look someone in the eye, and know that they may be teaching me something in that moment.

I can be "right" or I can be kind. I would rather be kind.
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 10:51 AM
reply to post by purplemer


People are so hard on the homeless. And, while I agree that some of them don't have it half as bad as they like to make people think, some of them DO. You can't judge all of them for that.

Same as judging all American citizens for what our government is doing to people overseas.

Not fair.

For those of you stating how they don't deserve sympathy because they chose to be in their situation, consider this; Our society coddles people who have drug and alcohol problems, and we hug them, tell them they need help, and send them to rehab, right?

So, homeless people in the exact situation, with the same mental substance dependency problems, don't deserve that same sympathy?

No, they shouldn't chose to sell out and live on the streets to get a fix. BUT, If any of you people saying "They chose this life, its their own fault" have ever had a family member or a friend who was hooked on a drug or alcohol, and if you care about that person, and you offered to help them, you are a hypocrite for saying these homeless guys don't deserve the same kindness and love.

I'm not saying they should be coddled for it. Not at all.

No one should, homeless or not.

But also consider that not all homeless guys are druggies.

When I was fourteen, my mother and I were homeless, and I made friends with a few homeless guys. One of them got kicked out of his home and had no family to go to, one of them made a living on the streets all his life (he drank sometimes, but it was winter, so he was doing it to stay warm, I never saw him drunk), and the others were tweaked in the head.

Yeah, I know its weird for a fourteen year old girl to befriend these kinds of people... but they were fun to talk to. Nothing weird was going on, don't worry.

I spent a lot of time bsing with them while my mom was working, because after school, I had nowhere to go, so my bus dropped me off at my mom's gas station, and that was the homeless guys' hangout spot. That's how I met em.

I was a lot more naive a few years ago than I am now (really, I still am naive, but its buried under a really mean exterior and a morbid sense of humor), and after the first time meeting these guys, I went to their camp, dropped off my leather jacket (my only jacket at the time), and left.

One of the guys, my best friend out of the bunch, a guy nicknamed "Bicycle Steve" (because he rode a bike everywhere) brought the jacket back to my mom's store, and told her he was touched by me leaving it there for him. When my mom gave me the jacket, it had 20 bucks in the pocket.

Plus, Steve once protected me from a couple other homeless dudes who threatened to jump us.

He was an awesome guy. One of the coolest friends I ever had.

Point is, all the guys had different stories, and surprisingly few of them involved any kind of substance abuse. And Steve was an amazing person in general.

So, don't go judging them, because I can speak from experience here, having befriended them AND having been one of them.

They aren't so bad.

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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 11:11 AM

Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by SubTruth
reply to post by Hopechest

People can change and everyone has low and high points in life. I believe the biggest cause of this is mental illness and that leads to many things including drug abuse.

We need to help these people and the tax money we are using to fight these endless wars could wipe it out. It could also help make our schools strong once again. The future we are investing in right now will not be very bright.

Certainly things such as mental illness are not preventable and I would have no problem taking care of these folks or children but you could point out almost any homeless person, give me their life story, and I could point out the exact decisions they made that led them to the place they are in.

How about not having a family or going into debt before you can afford it?

If you rush out and have 5 kids by the time your 25 and work at mcdonalds then yes, you may end up on the street.

Your choice.

Want to do drugs or drink too much?

Your choice.

I don't feel any sympathy for them.

James 2:14-17 14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.

James 4:17 If anyone, then, knows the good they ought to do and doesn’t do it, it is sin for them.

What good are you doing the man by judging/condemning a man who has already judged/condemned himself? Everything you say merely reinforces his lack of faith in himself. Rather than condemning the already condemned why not show him love instead.

You don't know his story, and it is obvious by your post[s] it is completely impossible for you to relate to him.

How do you believe you have the right to judge/condemn any man especially one that it is impossible for you to relate too? You should come down from your high place and join the rest of us in peaceful compassion so you can save the soul that it is lost.

Want to show love and compassion?

Your choice

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