Christian, jew, monkey, toast.. WHO CARES?

Originally posted by Awen24
...even the demons believe... and shudder. -James 2:19

SO true...

Hell is FULL of so called "believers".

Originally posted by Angle
All He sees are believers and non-believers.

OUR definition of "believer" is not the same as God's definition.

God told Howard Pittman during his NDE that not all the sayers would be in heaven, but all the doers would be.

God is looking for the "doer" not the "hearer."

Many will hear and say "Yes".

Few will say yes and DO...

On August 3, 1979, Howard Pittman, a Baptist minister for 35 years, died while on the operating table during surgery and had a near-death experience.

Instead of allowing me to enter, the angel stationed me before the Gates, slightly to one side. He instructed me to stay there and watch as the saints were permitted to enter into Heaven. This point was so important that the Holy Spirit told me Himself. I watched the fifty saints enter Heaven, but the point I missed was the time frame involved.

It was explained to me that at the same time those fifty saints died on Earth, 1,950 other humans also died; or only 50 out of 2000 made it into Heaven. That other 1,950 were not there. Where were they? That was only 2 ½ percent going to Heaven! Ninety seven point five percent did not make it! Is that representative of the entire world today? If so, 97 ½ percent of the population of this world today is not ready to meet God.

Placebo by Howard Pittman

The two angels escorted me to Hell. They said, “Now you will visit Hell.”…There are multitudes of churches on the Earth and many of the churches are filled with many people. However, most of them are not true Christians. They are but church attendants. The true churches will firmly believe in Heaven and a Hell. The lives of many Christians are in chaos because they do not firmly believe in Heaven and Hell. When one soul enters Heaven, one thousand cursed souls enter Hell. The rate of Heaven and Hell is 1 to 1000.” (Matt 7:14)

Heaven & Hell 1000 to 1

Bishop Wilfred Lai is the founder and senior Pastor of Jesus Celebration Center in Mombasa, Kenya and it is a church of over 15,000 members. One day he asked the Lord how many of them were ready for heaven and the Lord told him only 200. Only 1% of that church is going to heaven!

Dr. Lai said that some pastors have created large groups of sinners meeting in the name of God. “What you have are not churches, but large congregations of sinners.”

Message from Pastor Wilfred Lai

reply to post by Angle


Because Jesus duh

2nd line *insert atheist joke*

3rd line *immaculate conception*

I convinced all of you that my opinion is fact.

End line

reply to post by Angle


Well the difference is in what you believe and we can have infinite numbers of debates on who God (IEUE) and his people are and those debates shall have no end. He knows who his people are, and they know who he is.

John 10:11-14

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep. 12 But a hireling, he who is not the shepherd, one who does not own the sheep, sees the wolf coming and leaves the sheep and flees; and the wolf catches the sheep and scatters them. 13 The hireling flees because he is a hireling and does not care about the sheep. 14 I am the good shepherd; and I know My sheep, and am known by My own.

The word "christian" didn't come until after the church at Antioch was established, it was a word given by the idolaters to jews who believed in Jesus Christ meant as a derogatory term for people who were willing to die for their beliefs it meant "little Christ". Before Antioch it had been called The Way.

John 14:1-6

“Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. 2 In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also. 4 And where I go you know, and the way you know.”

5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

The exception to the rule are the jews, he blinded them or they would never have fulfilled their purpose, to offer up the sacrifice for the sins of the world. They know him but they don't know who he is yet. He was with them at Mt. Sinai and Horeb but they don't know that was him yet.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000


The word "christian" didn't come until after the church at Antioch was established, it was a word given by the idolaters to jews who believed in Jesus Christ meant as a derogatory term for people who were willing to die for their beliefs it meant "little Christ". Before Antioch it had been called The Way.

What year was that, Lonewolf, doeth ye know?

Because, if there came to believe because of Christ, and that was before the term christian was invented, weren't they "BELIEVERS" then?

Or should I say the faithfull, or the righteous? Can one who does not believe be righteous?

To answer that question myself, I'd say, no they can't, someone who doesn't believe is incapable of being just and righteous. 'UNBELIEVERS'

Originally posted by Angle

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000


The word "christian" didn't come until after the church at Antioch was established, it was a word given by the idolaters to jews who believed in Jesus Christ meant as a derogatory term for people who were willing to die for their beliefs it meant "little Christ". Before Antioch it had been called The Way.

What year was that, Lonewolf, doeth ye know?

Because, if there came to believe because of Christ, and that was before the term christian was invented, weren't they "BELIEVERS" then?

Or should I say the faithfull, or the righteous? Can one who does not believe be righteous?

To answer that question myself, I'd say, no they can't, someone who doesn't believe is incapable of being just and righteous. 'UNBELIEVERS'

According to scripture, Abraham's faith was accounted by God for righteousness, and his actions confirmed him. So unless you are a believer then no, you cannot be righteous. Without Christ none of us can be. We are the helpless dead without him. Galatians 3 explains these things.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


God is loving, he loves the people and Jesus is the way to him because Jesus will forgive all? of your sins, and I think if Jesus does not do that, then God himself will be doing that for you, because it is told, that God loves for all people and I want to believe that so..

I think the purpose in life is to become happy with the help of.. gOd.

You know................ HIM.

reply to post by Angle

I think if Jesus does not do that, then God himself will be doing that for you

If you don't have the Son, you don't have the Father either.

1 John 2:22-23

22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 23 Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

reply to post by Angle

All He sees are believers and non-believers.

Above, in the Library, there is a tapestry, every man is listed on it, you are either on the right or the left. There are no labels, only believers and non-believers.

A believer from the standpoint of above is one whom believes in Father without doubt that he will carry him and guide him through life without fail.

Originally posted by Angle

Hi friends,

Does it matter what label you carry in your life? One can claim a thousand times he might be this or that, you are either a believer, or you aren't. That's how our Ruler distinguished humanity, and it will always be so.

So why go shouting you're a catholic, or a jew, or a christian? God is blind to such statements.

All He sees are believers and non-believers.




Spirit with you, be blessed!

My voice will forever be with you!

Yes, you are right.
The coming God will come without belonging to any religion, as he surpasses all religions.He will save all good people no matter they are in or not in some religion.