posted on May, 25 2013 @ 01:00 PM
The three steps of the Muslim government/religion:
STAGE ONE—When Muslims are completely outnumbered and can’t possibly win a physical confrontation with unbelievers, they are to live in peace with
non-Muslims and preach a message of tolerance. We see an example of this stage when Muhammad and his followers were a persecuted minority in Mecca.
Since the Muslims were entirely outnumbered, the revelations Muhammad received during this stage (e.g. “You shall have your religion and I shall
have my religion”) called for religious tolerance and proclaimed a future punishment (rather than a worldly punishment) for unbelievers.
STAGE TWO—When there are enough Muslims and resources to defend the Islamic community, Muslims are called to engage in defensive Jihad. Thus, when
Muhammad had formed alliances with various groups outside Mecca and the Muslim community had become large enough to begin fighting, Muhammad received
STAGE THREE—When Muslims establish a majority and achieve political power in an area, they are commanded to engage in offensive Jihad. Hence, once
Mecca and Arabia were under Muhammad’s control, he received the call the fight all unbelievers. In Surah 9:29, we read:
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge
the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
Notice that this verse doesn’t order Muslims to fight oppressors, but to fight those who do not believe in Islam (including the “People of the
Book”—Jews and Christians). Not surprisingly, we find similar commands in Islam’s most trusted collections of ahadith (traditions containing
Sahih al-Bukhari 6924—Muhammad said: “I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be
worshipped but Allah), and whoever said La ilaha illahllah, Allah will save his property and his life from me.”
Sahih Muslim 30— “I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah.”
Ibn Kathir sums up Stage Three as follows: “Therefore all people of the world should be called to Islam. If anyone of them refuses to do so, or
refuses to pay the Jizyah, they should be fought till they are killed.”
There seems to always be a reason some government or religion needs to kill someone, no?
I have lived in Saudi Arabia and flown all over the mid-east to such garden spots as Egypt, Yemen, and Oman. I have even been to Mecca many times;
well the airport which should count for something?
I have no problem with any other religion until the shooting starts or the bombs go off. Then all the platitudes and words stop having meaning and it
gets personal real quick.
Some of the above was copied from a post of mine in this thread www.abovetopsecret.com by mideast
In the country we stay part of the year there is not a month goes by where there are not police, government, and locals in the deep south killed by
the religion of peace. It is to late to do anything meaningful now for the Muslim population is already at stage 2.
I am all for getting along and all that but some of this stuff based on religious beliefs that indicate, 'if you do not believe like us then off with
your head' is worse than stupid and is basically just genocide. Look at France and many other European countries which are also at step/stage 2: the
seeds of conflict have been planted so it is just a matter of time to see what fruits these seeds will produce..Even Egypt which has had other
religions than Islam almost forever has turned into a hell hole for non-believers since the regime change.
Now, there will be Islamist apologist who must quote and claim all kinds of justifications for the few who do these heinous crimes and in truth it is
a small percentage.... but even a small percentage of 1.4 billion is a number most countries can not handle and protect their citizens. With the hate
speech being preached by some of their leaders it is no wonder.... every few years you have a new batch of young ones to carry out their taught
religious fervor. Also many of the countries of the world have not bombed or committed mayhem in a Muslim country so do not try to use payback for
their bombings, killings, and other acts. I do not have an answer but I do have eyes and know a little history and the three steps are being followed
all over the world where a foot hold is established.
For a fifth of the world's population, Islam is both a religion and a complete way of life; it is also a form of government with laws punishable in
this life not in some heaven. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the majority have nothing to do with the extremely grave
events which have come to be associated with their faith Is a normal rebuttal for their violence and barbarism.