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Originally posted by Cito
it should all be banned
and im an exsmoker
nicotine was the root cause of my heart attack at age 30, I smoked a little too much and nicotine is a vascular constrictor, it closed up one of the arteries under my heart and triggered a heart attack.
I didn't want to believe it at first but the doctor showed the video to me where they placed 2 stints and my cholesterol was normal but the nicotine had built up and not only acted like cholesterol but it causes veins to constrict.
to me what was the most sickening and I stopped smoking cold turkey with ZERO withdrawals was after he showed me a video of this experiment showing the vascular constrictive properties of nicotine with no additives on the video there's a pig artery in a petri dish looking thing. They add 1 drop of nicotine and the dead pig artery starts to tighten up and it curl like a snake very slowly as it tightens up.
that grossed me out and all want to smoke left me instantly.
I haven't smoked in 7 years. And I'd vote yes in a heart beat to ban it.
legalize marijuana, noone has ever died from marijuana
but ban nicotine outright, blanket ban and burn all tobacco crops and give farmers the money and pay them to swap to cotton/corn/soybeans/peanuts/hemp as their bumper.
Yes Ecigs should be banned and all nicotine devices should be banned
you can't go to store and buy arsenic, strychnine, etc and nicotine should be on that list as pure nicotine is deadlier
What's most poisonous? Arsenic, Strychnine or nicotine?
If you guessed nicotine, you are correct. The lethal dosage for a 150 pound adult is 60 mg. The lethal dosage for strychnine is 75 mg and the lethal dosage for arsenic is 200 mg. In other words, nicotine is three times as toxic as arsenic and one and one half times as toxic as strychnine.
ban it all
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by marhaba
not a fight about anything guy, just a valid reply, unlike this. This isn't a subject of environmental pollution, it's about e cigs/nicotine vaporized into breathing space in an enclosed area. Nicotine, natural? yes. Adding it to your already built in supply by inhaling, your own personal choice. So I think it should be kept in your personal space and out of the public buildings/areas, same as any controlled substance. People jump on opposing posts in here but have nothing valid but one liners in reply. Aren't there admins for that?
Clearstream Air Study
In December 2011, Aaron Frazier, Director of the Utah Vapers began consulting with FlavourArt in Milan Italy to develop research on the electronic cigarette in ways that had yet to be performed by anyone around the world. It was through this relationship that Clearstream Air was born. The purpose of this study was to identify and quantify the chemicals released on a closed environment from the use of an electronic cigarette.
Study Results
The study has now been completed, peer reviewed and accepted for the 2012 meeting of SRNT in Helsinki. The experiment concludes that within the limits of the observed parameters, has underlined that passive vapor does not produce detectable amounts of toxic and carcinogenic substances in the air of an enclosed space.
Originally posted by SunnyDee
I don't want more legislation, period. BUT, sitting in a restaurant here in CA recently, 3 men were smoking these things in the restaurant and it bothered me. Bothered me that they found a way around the no smoking law and were basically blowing it in everyone's face.
I know I will probably be lectured for my feelings on this, but it has been nice living without smoke in public places, and i was a smoker and don't mind if people smoke.... outside.
Originally posted by marhaba
reply to post by BanTv
Most of those who have vaped had even cut down their nicotine level down to none. I've been vaping for 5 months now and i'm down to almost nil nicotine as i always dilute it with vegetable glycerin. My goal is to finally have zero nicotine in it like most of those i know who have quit.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
I think the e-cig is crap, you want to breathe something other than air, do it in your own area. Don't add nicotine to my breathing environment, I don't care what carcinogens you "think" aren't present. If I decide to vaporize some crack and blow it into your airspace, you may have some issues with that, but this is ONLY nicotine we're talking about, nothing harmful right? You're inhaling AND exhaling the substance that took me and many others an eternity to quit, fighting still to this day. It's a substance unnecessary for survival and if someone was puffin an e cig near my child I'd have something to say.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by papazen
Not sure a slimy wet substance in your sensitive breathing organ is very good, but I'm no doctor.
Originally posted by sealing
Yeah well I like oxygen so dont breathe in my space with all
the carbon dioxide your converting.
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by sealing
good one liner, I guess. But once again, just another user posting comments irrelevant to the subject. Couple of spam comedians on a subject someone took time to create.
I'll tell you what, let's go into a nice restaurant after I eat some eggs and beans. We can test our arguments on what we like to be forced to breathe as opposed as to what is natural to the environment. You wouldn't enjoy breathing my fecal rot as I comment "it's perfectly natural and you breathe it everyday". You'd try to plug my anus with your boot in protest.
edit on 25-5-2013 by jimmyb0nz because: needed better explanation to the reply
Originally posted by jimmyb0nz
reply to post by marhaba
HA HA HA, a study performed and peer approved by a vaporizing group. Sure, let's go back to the 80's and listen to tobacco lobbyists while we're at it.
Originally posted by marhaba
reply to post by BanTv
I've tried both snus and tobacco tea bag but it never helped me. I used to be leery also with the e-cig as the first one i bought was that crap cig-look-a-like until someone introduced me to another gadget and from that time on, i never looked back.