reply to post by MemeticHarvest
I don't think I could express to you, Memtic Harvest, with simple words, the import of your thinking, analysis and writing.
Social ineptitude? And forgive me for starting at your ending, and perhaps what seems the least of what we are discussing, but may, just in fact, be,
the most...actually.....in that microcosm of macrocosm of entropy, evolution, neural networks, algorithms, good vs. evil, collective consciousness
"god likeness" and individualism and order vs. chaos and what that may or may not mean to all of us.....the most important part of this particular
microcosm we are heretofore experiencing at this very moment......love. And again. Social ineptitude?
If you have such a thing, it is because you are thinking much more about vital issues of life than most are.....
I am fifty. Believe me when I say this to you: It is meant to build your confidence, for you have so very, very much to offer mankind, just by what
I have seen of this thread and read of your thinking......
Without people like you who are thinking and considering in this fashion, (pardon the all caps), BUT THERE MAY ONE DAY BE NOTHING LEFT TO CONSIDER NOR
So Never, ever, ever, sell yourself short like that. It just may be in these times that what order out of chaos may have meant is the creation of an
ever sickening condition of "humankind," perhaps to teach us a lesson about striving to be what we are not: God or a creator beyond a certain
capacity, for we can create, a great deal. But at what cost, and using what and out of what? And perhaps this is the lesson a loving God meant to
But I am fully convinced from my own experience and watchfulness that those who think and ponder and search seriously as you do, whether you "fit"
in the society of the times, or are popular in a typical sense, are those who will save and give a reason for us to evolve, whomever is in control of
Having written all that, I have often found in my life that the most complex of things, can be reduced to the simplest analogies (even though
analogies and symbols can be dangerous because things can be made to appear a certain way to compare unlike things as though they are like, and in
doing so, create complete lies in doing so).......think about a curve....as opposed to a straight line. There was a time when mathematical and
engineering, achitectural and otherwise, could not calculate nor support a "curve." And in terms of what we are living out, I find this to be a
good way to look at what we are speaking of.....
Mankind , I think, has discovered enough about physics, and not applied or molecular, but rather quantum possibilities, to question and answer and
create, supporting a curve he could not see beyond, and we have almost, therefore, qualified and quantified ourselves out of this existence, by
suggesting our mechanic repetitive creation, trying to be God, copying that neural network we have "nailed" down, to move on to "transhumanism"
and a full suggestion we can create ourselves, be our own Gods, and make ourselves better, but the trick with this is, from my way of thinking and
seeing, is CONTROL.
Break that word down, simply, and it starts with a con......
For we were meant to accept certain things, I believe, and wait patiently and learn FAITH through this process......and these times have gone far
beyond that. It is kind of akin to selling one's soul, perhaps, another way of looking at it.
As far as randomness,chaos vs. order.......I believe if you had a processor capable of the "full" set of equational probabilities, which we do not
yet have nor perhaps were ever intended to (this comes back to "faith"), there would, in fact, be no randomness nor chaos whatsoever. But certain
things we were not intended not to search for before it was a time for the seeking.....
And this, my friend, is the essence, I think, in all our ponderings and mathematical, p hilosophical and other ponderings and searchings, that always
brings us back to faith.....
And when I say, FAITH, I do not mean in a certain religious text, any organized religion or doctrine, what you eat or wear or whatever your particular
definition of "sin" is......but true FAITH....that we perhaps know nothing, and will wait patiently, while still contemplating and taking seriously,
living, being grateful and sympathetic to the human condition as it presents itself to us where we see it daily: those who suffer more than we do,
and what we do to hold ourselves together while we suffer, and wait, patiently,as well, and how we treat our fellow brethren while we are doing so.
I think this adds up to a better mathematical conclusion than any other language can represent, be it letters or numbers.
Let me say, please, I have so enjoyed your thread, and appreciated very much how you have prompted me to re-think my own life, my own