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NBC Correspondant: Obama Trying To Criminalize Journalism

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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 09:59 PM
Even Michelle Obama çan't stand him and is going to Martha's Vineyard soon on "entended stay" with the girls....she may be house hunting they say.
So much for first black President legacy...

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 10:12 PM

Originally posted by Granite
So much for first black President legacy...

this is a good chunk of the problem...

who givs a rats ass if he is Black, White or Martian?

race has nothing to do with personal choices or making bad choices...

A black person is not a criminal...
A white person is not a criminal...
An Asian person is not a criminal...
A Hispanic person is not a criminal...

people who break the law are criminals...

His legacy should be based on what he did in office, not the color of the skin...
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 10:27 PM
reply to post by Xcathdra long-time beliefs above.
My comment was directed to the Black ATS members...I am posting to say we told you so.
In 2008, Arsenio Hall warned the Black community but was ignored.
edit on 23-5-2013 by Granite because: sp

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 10:34 PM
Come on guys give Obama, and his administration a break.

I mean really, isn't the truth in the eyes of the beholder? Besides he wasn't even there he had a golf game that day, lord I've been compromised!

Liberals can make you believe anything!
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 10:48 PM
reply to post by terriblyvexed

I know you being sarcastic above.
But, the realization now he orchistrated "Chigago-style politics" nationwide in America is highly disturbing fact we face and need to concentrate 100% focus on countering it every moment...this is serious.

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 10:54 PM
reply to post by Granite

Wow, that's the second lecture I got tonight ATS isn't feeling like laughing tonight.

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:09 PM
reply to post by terriblyvexed

When Good wins over Evil, we'll party!!

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:32 PM
reply to post by burntheships

How do you criminalize an already criminal system?

Since when American press started speaking truth?

posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:35 PM
It's weird because wasn't journalism, and marketing, what got Obama into the President job in the first place?

If ever the nation wanted to, they could just make the President Channel, where it's all President, all the time. That is a big chunk of media talk anyways, about what is happening in government. Then the current administration can cut out interviews to the classic press, put it on the Homeland Security Channel, be that giant dictatorship head on TV telling the land the details of the new rules rolling into the neighborhood every week. Then they wouldn't need to soften the regime through "PR" tactics.

Then the journalists they don't like can go to prison, or the nuthouse, after being scrutinized by doctors and declared unfit for being a ranting lunatic on the air, spewing out counter-nationalist ideologies. That's like, every news channel.

What I see is an administration that is taking notes from other nations, and trying to dress the country to fit in. Very image-conscious administration, and the press, they know where spin it, because it's part of the recipe for putting in the Nuprin President, or the next neato anti-political headache person.

I'm surprised they are doing it a little ahead of schedule; it's usually not until about 18 months before the term ends when they start ripping things up. The corporate portion of the country does that, like how they drop contracts with sports celebrities, if they aren't meeting their contract specifications, or are losing their games.

I haven't seen this sort of complaining since the USSR.
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posted on May, 24 2013 @ 12:24 AM
reply to post by Sandalphon

Socialism,unchecked, always implodes unto itself because their policies are unsustainable...Rush Limbaugh quote.

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 06:52 AM
This issue came up during the Bradley Manning affair and also in relation to the attempt to extradite Julian Assange. The Assange case is discussed in the following thread:

Julian Assange and Wikileaks Named "Enemies of the State"

The case of a US Air Force systems analyst who had expressed support for Wikileaks and Bradley Manning is discussed in a very informative article in the Manchester Guardian from September of 2012.

Documents related to this case can be downloaded here, but they state that the "complaint" against the person in question was "communicating with the enemy".


The legal framework for pursuing those who leak information related to "national security" (a catch all designation that applies to anything the government wants to keep secret for any reason) is Article 104 of the US Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), which states:

"Any person who….aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy" in any way, "with proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly, shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct."

The Guardian article states:

But it's the second possibility that seems to me to be the far more likely one: namely, that the US government, as part of Obama's unprecedented war on whistleblowers, has now fully embraced the pernicious theory that any leaks of classified information can constitute the crime of "aiding the enemy" or "communicating with the enemy" by virtue of the fact that, indirectly, "the enemy" will - like everyone else in the world - ultimately learn of what is disclosed.

. . . .

It is always worth underscoring that the New York Times has published far more government secrets than WikiLeaks ever has, and more importantly, has published far more sensitive secrets than WikiLeaks has (unlike WikiLeaks, which has never published anything that was designated "Top Secret", the New York Times has repeatedly done so: the Pentagon Papers, the Bush NSA wiretapping program, the SWIFT banking surveillance system, and the cyberwarfare program aimed at Iran were all "Top Secret" when the newspaper revealed them, as was the network of CIA secret prisons exposed by the Washington Post). There is simply no way to convert basic leaks to WikiLeaks into capital offenses - as the Obama administration is plainly doing - without sweeping up all leaks into that attack.

It is very concievable that that is what they are starting to do.

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posted on May, 24 2013 @ 07:44 AM
Well this is it, America has clearly decided it does not want accountability to the public or its press for anything ever again the free press has a choice, follow these laws or sometimes go to jail for something called "national security". You might even see a lot of multi media companies receiving large amounts of money from the military as they essentialy creat government run propaganda controlled by the military.

Problem is for them, they have to now keep convincing us all under this guise of terrorism that this "national security" is actualy important and it would be pretty fantastic as we just ignore all the mad laws getting hammered through government with no oversight or any due process and legislature, laws seemingly to have very heavy restrictions about our own personal freedoms.

To me that sounds very bad, but I dunno, you get a lot of people who seem to be actively supporting the way in which we all do business, crazy eh. Just seems like America has now evolved into some sort psuedo civilian/military/corporation controlled hybrid. But unfortunatly for the people the shadow corporations and military are basicaly the ones with all the money. If you are a nations military military generals in a coountry CAN NOT just cut themselves cheques out a nations buedgets, cheques worth infinite trillion manymondey dollars. THEY CAN THOUGH, THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DO THAT IF IS THE MILITARY IS CONTROLLING YOUR COUNTRY.

Just saying, most countries in the world, if that happened, that be whats called a military coup.

Sorry I will amend that last sentence, when I say thats what a military coup would be like, what I mean to say though, it is not a military coup if we are the ones giving them all the guns and making it happen cause were all to blame for it, then its called freedom and democracy but its great cause we get tv and that, so enjoy, could be worse you might live in a country where it is llegal for the government fsecurity officer to kidnapp and murder you with no legal recourse or investigation, and they can do this any where in the world at any time they like?, imagine living in that country?, OH WAIT BUT IT IS LEGAL FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO ABLE TO DO THAT, WHY IS THAT BECAUSE THE MILITARY HAS THE TECHNOLOGY ROCKET DRONE YOU WITH MISSLES, BECAUSE THE MILITARY CAN wRITE ITS OWN LAWS WHEN IT CONTROLS THE GOVERNMENT.

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posted on May, 24 2013 @ 08:42 AM
So apparently reporting the truth is a criminal act now.

But then again most journalists are a joke nowadays. All you need to be a journo is a youtube and twitter account, and a fat pay check provided by TPTB, as long as you comply with their agenda.

I'd bet my last dollar that if it journalism is criminalized, no one from FOX would ever be convicted.

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 08:46 AM

Originally posted by Granite
reply to post by Xcathdra long-time beliefs above.
My comment was directed to the Black ATS members...I am posting to say we told you so.
In 2008, Arsenio Hall warned the Black community but was ignored.
edit on 23-5-2013 by Granite because: sp

Um. . . many of us didn't vote for Obama.

Just sayin'. . . . . . .

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 09:01 AM
So... if a few untainted journalists try to do their job and get information on informants within the federal government, also untainted, who are willing to report wrongdoing, the administration says they'r eboth criminal.
Obama was sputtering about how they need to safeguard this and blah blah blah it shouldn't happen blah blah blah. He's the guy that gave it the okay, or at the least he's the empty suit whos asleep at his desk while its going on. He has no right to comment and his false indignation and feigned outrage is pathetic.

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 10:07 AM
reply to post by Dutchowl

Obama is talking out of both sides of his mouth, classically known
as Orwellian doublespeak. And all the while he is "innocent",
the rats scurry around,and blame each other!

Holder signed off, they are in it together!

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 11:49 AM
"Everything I did, I did for my country", Pol Pot said in his defense of the slaughter of 2.4 million fellow Cambodian citizens..

The following video is rather long because of all the info presented; a slanted history lesson??.... or facts of how things are done time and time again to subjugate and bend the will of the people to the will of some government. Some of the history is illuminating in a nuts and bolts kind of way yet, as in everything, there are two sides of the story.

Pol Pot was a leader I actually watched (as the rest of the world's governments watched and did nothing) from across a border destroy his people and country. To say I have no respect or love for that animal is a super understatement. Who would have thought in a Buddhist country they would turn on their own by using the country's very own brain washed children? Trust me that was some sick stuff......

"Oh you wear glasses and have read non-approved books, have an education, O.K."?...Boom will be the last thing you hear or the machete as it swishes through the air to find your neck or head....sorry getting slightly carried away here....!

I do find it interesting; on one point the video repeats how no tyrant wakes up as says, "Today I will be a tyrant". It is always about protection...... a thought or saying how they are doing good for the countries citizens yet only end up strengthening the the Tyrants position while eliminating all disparaging voices and written thoughts .

Take what you want from the video, it is not perfect; yet, as stated, it can make one think about things...which IMO thinking is a good thing until the thought police arrive..

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 11:54 AM
This is in the Washington Times today, we were seeing titles like this a few years ago
from the "conspiracy theorists" its mainstream news!

NAPOLITANO: Tyranny just around the corner

A few weeks ago, President Obama advised graduates at Ohio State University that they need not listen to voices warning about tyranny around the corner, because we have self-government in America. He argued that self-government is in and of itself an adequate safeguard against tyranny, because voters can be counted upon to elect democrats (with a lowercase “d”), not tyrants. His argument defies logic and 20th-century history. It reveals an ignorance of the tyranny of the majority, which thinks it can write any law, regulate any behavior, alter any procedure and tax any event so long as it can get away with it.

History has shown that the majority will not permit any higher law, logic or value — such as fidelity to the natural law, a belief in the primacy of the individual or an acceptance of the supremacy of the Constitution — that prevents it from doing as it wishes.

Under Mr. Obama’s watch, the majority has, by active vote or refusal to interfere, killed hundreds of innocents — including four Americans — by drone; permitted federal agents to write their own search warrants; bombed Libya into tribal lawlessness without a declaration of war so that a mob there killed our ambassador with impunity; attempted to force the Roman Catholic Church to purchase insurance policies that cover artificial birth control, euthanasia and abortion; ordered your doctor to ask you whether you own guns; used the Internal Revenue Service to intimidate outspoken conservatives; seized the telephone records of newspaper reporters without lawful authority and in violation of court rules; and obtained a search warrant against one of my Fox News Channel colleagues by misrepresenting his true status to a federal judge

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 11:55 AM
I was wondering when Chuck Todd would fly his flag. In his banter over the last year or so with Chris Matthews, Brian Williams and that guy from Meet The Press who reminds me of the Cowardly Lion from Oz, he's become increasingly incensed with the administration, but has tread carefully.

I remember the last person to get close to outright ridiculing an administration on the air dropped dead at 51. Here's hoping Chuck stays upright.

posted on May, 24 2013 @ 12:04 PM

Originally posted by kosmicjack
It can not be overstated that this criticism is coming from MSNBC/NBC.

Seriously true. I bet they are all in shock. Especially Mica .... poor pathetic Mica.

Well .. it's not like the rest of us didn't try to warn them.

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