Cindy Thomas: IRS Agent Giving Targeting Orders Identified?

Local Cincinnati Fox news team has recently run stories claiming to have identified the IRS agent out out the Cincinnati office who would have overseen all of the agents in the department responsible for targeting conservative groups. Congress will definitely be interested in questioning this woman.
According to the article her name is Cindy Thomas:

So who in the chain of command would have received all these flags? The answer, according to the IRS directory, one woman in Cincinnati, Cindy Thomas, the Program Manager of the Tax Exempt Division. Because all six of our IRS workers have different individual and territory managers, Cindy Thomas is one manager they all have common.

It turns out Cindy Thomas' name is one we have heard before. The independent journalism group ProPublica says in November of 2012 they had requested information on conservatives groups that had received non-profit status.

Cindy Thomas, says Swann, is the highest-ranking employee in the Tax Exempt and Government Entities Department in Cincinnati.

www.breitbart.com...

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www.freerepublic.com...
www.theblaze.com...

reply to post by IAMTAT

I am waiting for the post that says that none of your sources are any good.

It will come from a person that trusts reporting from MSNBC.

It seems Cindy Thomas has worked for the IRS for 35 years.

Cindy M. Thomas has worked for the IRS for 35 years. She is the program manager for Exempt Organizations Determinations. During the last 29 years, she has worked for the Employee Plans/Exempt Organizations Division, now Tax Exempt/Government Entities Division, in the Cincinnati office specializing in the Exempt Organizations function. While working for the Exempt Organization function, Cindy has held a variety of positions related to determination applications including revenue agent, quality reviewer, first-line manager, staff assistant/training coordinator, processing section manager, program analyst, area manager, and for the last eight and half years, Exempt Organizations program manager.

Who Is Cindy Thomas?

Obama must have been planing this for a while if he sent her to work at the IRS when he was 16!

So that is the goat to be offered in sacrifice? That too baaaaad for her.

a full career and it'll be utterly destroyed ..when I'm willing to bet she didn't think this whole thing up all by herself. It's kinda hard to, when that may have been the main office of abuse but it's by far not the only office with abuse. The story gets more interesting each day, to be sure.

Originally posted by BritofTexas
It seems Cindy Thomas has worked for the IRS for 35 years.

Cindy M. Thomas has worked for the IRS for 35 years. She is the program manager for Exempt Organizations Determinations. During the last 29 years, she has worked for the Employee Plans/Exempt Organizations Division, now Tax Exempt/Government Entities Division, in the Cincinnati office specializing in the Exempt Organizations function. While working for the Exempt Organization function, Cindy has held a variety of positions related to determination applications including revenue agent, quality reviewer, first-line manager, staff assistant/training coordinator, processing section manager, program analyst, area manager, and for the last eight and half years, Exempt Organizations program manager.

Who Is Cindy Thomas?

Obama must have been planing this for a while if he sent her to work at the IRS when he was 16!

I'm confused by your last comment. Are you saying that the only way for Obama to be involved in this is that he would of have to have the foresight and authority to put this women in the IRS when he was only 16?

Do you actually believe that's the only way conspiracies work? That everything had to be perfectly set up from the very beginning in order for it to be played out?

More likely if Obama or his administration had something to do with this IRS debacle, they just put pressure on who ever was currently in charge at the time, which in this case was this women Cindy Thomas. Not the way you jokingly put it.

Maybe, I just took what you said the wrong way and I apologize if I have, but I just don't understand how so many people use that type of logic to discredit things. This tactic is often used by disinformationist to try and make a real conspiracy seem absurd.

Originally posted by iwan2ski

I'm confused by your last comment. Are you saying that the only way for Obama to be involved in this is that he would of have to have the foresight and authority to put this women in the IRS when he was only 16?

Do you actually believe that's the only way conspiracies work? That everything had to be perfectly set up from the very beginning in order for it to be played out?

More likely if Obama or his administration had something to do with this IRS debacle, they just put pressure on who ever was currently in charge at the time, which in this case was this women Cindy Thomas. Not the way you jokingly put it.

Thomas is a 35 year veteran of the IRS. She has held the position she has now for over 8 years. She was not put there by the current administration. How did Obama put "pressure" on her? Do they have some dirt on her? Or did they threaten to kill her cat? So far there is no evidence to connect her to the Obama administration.

Maybe, I just took what you said the wrong way and I apologize if I have, but I just don't understand how so many people use that type of logic to discredit things. This tactic is often used by disinformationist to try and make a real conspiracy seem absurd.

For a conspiracy to be believable there has to be some semblance of truth to it. And it needs to be able to stand up to scrutiny.

Believing in a conspiracy simply because one does not like the current POTUS is hardly evidence of the conspiracy. The problem with crying Wolf so many times is, if (and when) there really is a conspiracy no one is going to believe it.

reply to post by IAMTAT

Ms. Thomas was also apparently responsible for sharing confidential IRS information from conservative groups to the press.

Additionally, it was Thomas’ signature on an IRS letter to investigative journalism outfit ProPublica sent along with confidential, still-pending applications from conservative groups in November.

ProPublica had requested information on conservative groups who had received tax-exempt status, and with it received some still-pending ones that should have remained confidential. The IRS has said the disclosure of the confidential documents was “inadvertent and unintentional.”

www.theblaze.com...

With that weak original claim "it was low level employees" falling apart, we now are seeing how webbed the government agencies really are.

Lots of high level people who have been promoted "quietly" without notice at first.

Obviously, this targeting was a bright idea coming from White House staff.

It seems the unelected "officials" are the flakes in the rolling snowball.

There are thousands of them.

The IRS is chock full of efficient accountants and lawyers.

Why would the higher ups not know of this targeting ?

Answer: they did know.

A targeting operation this big would not be possible at low levels only.

As we now know, the "levels" involved many different managers.

I still think the whole idea came from high level White House staff members.
I wonder how many meetings it took to pull the strings?

The Democrats in power have never stopped campaigning.

Here is the organizational chart showing Ms. Thomas' place in overseeing MANY IRS employees at this section of the Cincinnati office:

Former IRS acting head Steven Miller testified last week that two “rogue” agents responsible have already been disciplined. But Fox Cincinnati affiliate WXIX-TV has identified six local employees that sent probing letters to Tea Party groups: Mitchel Steele, Carly Young, Joseph Herr, Stephen Seok, Liz Hofacre and a woman known only as Ms. Richards.

According to WXIX, all of those workers have separate managers, and separate territory managers above them; the only supervisor they do have in common is Cindy Thomas, the program manager of the IRS’ tax-exempt organizations determinations division.

www.theblaze.com...

reply to post by IAMTAT


And the image grid shows how impossible it is to have a concerted effort of this magnitude by just low level employees.

There are high level employees at every turn.

I would think all work gets checked, reviewed and double checked at high levels.

ETA: Plus that, the low level employees are assigned work, they don't create their own.

the pic from your link:

all those that apply are sent probing letters and are targeted, they are trying to get out of paying taxes while making money to benefit one political group.....who here thinks that tea party or patriot groups are NOT POLITICAL....c'mon...that's the 800 pound gorilla that everyone avoids saying...these groups were raising tax free money to use politically against liberal democratic candidates and liberal ballot issues, plain and simple
no one is stating the obvious...tell me how many specifically designated "tea party" groups, or specifically designated "patriot" groups, were used for "social charity giving" only, and not designed to unseat obama...times up....NONE!!!!...these groups publicly say they hate liberals and hate Obama, you tube alone, are full of them ranting away

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


This is the goat to be sacrificed

Ahahahaa...*cough*.haahaaah

According to this, Ms. Thomas is lawyering-up for congress:

Re: Four Names Surfacing in IRS Scandal: Cindy Thomas, Holly Paz, Lois Lerner & Kathryn Ruemmler – All Have Obtained Lawyers

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Travis wrote: > > > > > ** > Sard posted: "FOX19.com-Cincinnati News, Weather " > New post on *therightplanet.com* > Four Names Surfacing in IRS > Scandal: Cindy Thomas, Holly Paz, Lois Lerner & Kathryn Ruemmler – All Have > Obtained > Lawyers

www.mail-archive.com...@googlegroups.com/msg93914.html

Who says Ms. Thomas a 35 year career employee at the IRS can't be a partisan democrat?

The Wall Street Journal set the record straight:
"The IRS is many things, but 'independent' isn't one of them. It is formally part of the Treasury Department and is headed by the Commissioner of Internal Revenue, who is appointed by the President. The Commissioner is accountable to the President reporting through the Treasury Secretary."

And while it's true that the IRS is populated almost entirely by career civil servants, that doesn't preclude it being stacked with political partisans.

In the past three election cycles, the Center for Responsive Politics' database shows about $474,000 in political donations by individuals listing "IRS" or "Internal Revenue Service" as their employer. This money heavily favors Democrats: $247,000 to $145,000, with the rest going to political action committees. (Oddly, half of those GOP donations come from only two IRS employees, one in Houston and one in Annandale, Va.)

IRS employees also gave $67,000 to the PAC of the National Treasury Employees Union, which in turn gave more than 96 percent of its contributions to Democrats. Add the PAC cash to the individual donations and IRS employees favor Democrats 2-to-1.

The Cincinnati office where the political targeting took place is much more partisan, judging by FEC filings.gs. More than 75 percent of the campaign contributions from that office in the past three elections went to Democrats.

In 2012, every donation traceable to employees at that office went to either President Obama or liberal Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio.

The IRS officials whose names appear in the IG report are also Democrats with partisan histories. William Wilkins, IRS general counsel and one of the agency's two explicitly political appointees, is a former Democratic congressional aide, lobbyist (clients included the Swiss Bankers Association), and Democratic donor.

Joseph H. Grant, who ran the Tax Exempt and Government Entities Division that includes the Cincinnati office, is a former Democratic staffer on the House Ways & Means Committee.

washingtonexaminer.com...

Does this video really present objective IRS facts?

If so, the U.S. is playing with a stacked deck-of-cards.

It's becoming more and more apparent that the American game is rigged, with the IRS being just one more pathetic example of a corrupt and criminal system of federal government, a broken archaic system that needs to be dismantled and properly rebuilt.

F.T.G.

reply to post by BritofTexas

So in this light, President Reagan had nothing to do with Iran Contra because he was a Hollywood actor when Oliver North joined the Marines?

reply to post by BritofTexas


It isn't crying wolf when they are the ones that put this out there in the first place. They gave the reporter the question to ask to blow this whole I.R.S. scandal wide open. Are you so naïve to think that the I.R.S. wasn't targeting conservative groups, or do you just think that Obama had nothing to do with it? Either way you need to get informed.

I personally think that they were getting to close to something in the Benghazi scandal and had to deflect attention elsewhere. I think the key to bringing Obama down lies in Benghazi.

reply to post by jimmyx


Where were you during acorn? Bet you never said a word. Talk about bipartisan.

I guess it is ok when Obama does it.

You really shouldn't defend someone that wants to shred the constitution.

Originally posted by BritofTexas

Originally posted by iwan2ski

I'm confused by your last comment. Are you saying that the only way for Obama to be involved in this is that he would of have to have the foresight and authority to put this women in the IRS when he was only 16?

Do you actually believe that's the only way conspiracies work? That everything had to be perfectly set up from the very beginning in order for it to be played out?

More likely if Obama or his administration had something to do with this IRS debacle, they just put pressure on who ever was currently in charge at the time, which in this case was this women Cindy Thomas. Not the way you jokingly put it.

Thomas is a 35 year veteran of the IRS. She has held the position she has now for over 8 years. She was not put there by the current administration. How did Obama put "pressure" on her? Do they have some dirt on her? Or did they threaten to kill her cat? So far there is no evidence to connect her to the Obama administration.

Maybe, I just took what you said the wrong way and I apologize if I have, but I just don't understand how so many people use that type of logic to discredit things. This tactic is often used by disinformationist to try and make a real conspiracy seem absurd.

For a conspiracy to be believable there has to be some semblance of truth to it. And it needs to be able to stand up to scrutiny.

Believing in a conspiracy simply because one does not like the current POTUS is hardly evidence of the conspiracy. The problem with crying Wolf so many times is, if (and when) there really is a conspiracy no one is going to believe it.

Sooooooooooo I guess it's a little too hard for you to imagine that there are supporters of Republicans in departments who have been in government service for years as well as Democrats. Oh, did I say government? The IRS is private and sole job is to rob us blind to pay back money we could print for ourselves, but choose to get on loan from private banks at interest, but I digress....

You honestly don't think a Democrat, liberal, socialist leaning person was easily found and promoted through the system and just sat there waiting for an opportunity to serve her fuhrer? Please.... You sound like a complete disinfo type trying to say this stuff about obama being 16 when she started work there.

reply to post by BritofTexas


she is a perfect scapegoat for this administration. several times this administration has blamed someone and then let them go. They have always picked someone who could easily retire right then. They say they are canned and fired but are only allowed to retire. cindy thomas will probably just retire and be paid a nice paycheck for doing it. The irs cheif who was "fired" was already planning his leave and the president does not even have the power to fire the guy anyhow. This whole charade should not be happening. the irs should have pleaded already to have a special council judge them and clean house. Congress shouldn't even have to be dealing with this crap sandwich.