2 FBI Agents Involved in Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's Arrest "FALL" Out of Helicopter and Die

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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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2 FBI Agents Involved in Dzhokhar Tsarnaev's Arrest "FALL" Out of Helicopter and Die


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Two members of the FBI’s elite counterterrorism unit died Friday while practicing how to quickly drop from a helicopter to a ship using a rope, the FBI announced Monday in a statement.

The statement gave few details regarding the deaths of Special Agents Christopher Lorek and Stephen Shaw, other than to say the helicopter encountered unspecified difficulties and the agents fell a “significant distance.”

Last month, the team was involved in the arrest of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings. And in February, it rescued a 5-year-old boy held hostage for six da
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Edit to add, also see here
FBI Shoot and Kill Marathon Bombing Interviewee,
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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Details are sketchy at this point. Not sure what appropriate forum would suffice so here it is. Seems like maybe a coincidence maybe not. But this definitely has undertones of Seal team 6 chopper crash imho. And I would not put it past the higher up's to whack potential loose ends. Maybe they did not trust these pawns, maybe they were going to talk? I smell a conspiracy within a conspiracy afoot.

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Two members of the FBI’s elite counterterrorism unit died Friday while practicing how to quickly drop from a helicopter to a ship using a rope, the FBI announced Monday in a statement. The statement gave few details regarding the deaths of Special Agents Christopher Lorek and Stephen Shaw, other than to say the helicopter encountered unspecified difficulties and the agents fell a “significant distance.” A law enforcement source told The Pilot the incident happened about 12 nautical miles off the coast of Virginia Beach. The official blamed bad weather for the incident and said the agents – members of the FBI’s Hostage Rescue Team, based in Quantico – fell into the water. The official said he believed the agents died as a result of the impact rather than drowning. Glenn McBride, a spokesman for the state medical examiner’s office, said it could be months before his staff can release a final cause and manner of death for the two agents. He said they must wait for the results of routine toxicology tests. According to a Navy official, the agents were using a ship the FBI had leased from the Navy’s Military Sealift Command. No Navy personnel were involved in the exercise, the Navy official said.
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:39 AM
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This is reminiscent of all the members of SEAL Team 6 that killed Bin Laden that died in mysterious, unexplained ‘accidents’.

What is it they say, there is no such thing as a coincidence or an accident.
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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When people start dropping like flies something is very wrong. I let the suspect thing go but now this is getting weird.


Personally I think they are covering something up and our news media should be looking for angles but they are to busy pushing the progressive agenda to be of any use. ATS thankfully gives us all personally subjective views of the truth. You can find solace in that.
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:43 AM
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Combine your thread with this thread...



www.abovetopsecret.com...

and it begins to look very strange!!


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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:43 AM
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This whole thing reeks of Oswald/Ruby and the basement shooting. How many dead people does it take to keep a cover-up going? Let's find out...
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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Respectfully, this may have been nothing more than a coincidence, a tragic accident ?



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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Dear DarthFazer,

Please don't jump to conclusions. It said the unit was involved in Tsarnaev's arrest, not that they were. How big is the anti-terrorism unit of the FBI, I am guessing it is pretty big. Not everyone in the unit was involved in the arrest.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:49 AM
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Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
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Respectfully, this may have been nothing more than a coincidence, a tragic accident ?




One ya you are probably right.......two something is starting to stink........three and my red flags are flying up the flag pole.



Coincidence? Maybe at this point I doubt it. I always say this but it stands the test of time.....If it walks like a duck.


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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
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Respectfully, this may have been nothing more than a coincidence, a tragic accident ?


I could probably give you ten such mysterious "accidents" if I had more time and the inclination to search the web. Trust me it stinks to high heaven.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by creatives
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This is reminiscent of all the members of SEAL Team 6 that killed Bin Laden that died in mysterious, unexplained ‘accidents’.

What is it they say, there is no such thing as a coincidence or an accident.
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Indeed, I would bet they had help falling out. I mean if the force of the impact killed them that means only one thing, they were very high up. They were likely escorted out of the chopper and thrown away like yesterdays trash from the looks of it.
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:18 AM
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by olaru12
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Combine your thread with this thread...



www.abovetopsecret.com...

and it begins to look very strange!!




Now the pieces of the puzzle are coming together in the form of a series of dead bodies. Looks like FBI agents are just as expendable as the patsy's. This is some high level stuff, where it all leads back to I don't know. But if the order came from Obama himself it would also fit in to another trend as of late. Maybe aim higher, Obama's handlers "take your pic" are orchestrating this mess. Thanks for the link.
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
This whole thing reeks of Oswald/Ruby and the basement shooting. How many dead people does it take to keep a cover-up going? Let's find out...
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Two men can keep a secret if one of them is dead! 100 men can keep a secret if 99 of them are dead! And so on... When will these guys learn? If someone says "Hey, you want to be part of a conspiracy?", you say NO! "They won't whack me, I'm too important!" Don't bet your life on it!
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:30 AM
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Wow. We should have seen this coming

There have now been more deaths associated with the bombing than were killed in the actual blast.

Does this not scream coverup?

Does this not show loose ends being tied up?

Eta it's not a Boston bombing thread without boncho to tell us to move along.

where is he?

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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
This whole thing reeks of Oswald/Ruby and the basement shooting. How many dead people does it take to keep a cover-up going? Let's find out...
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Well actually, that's a funny sentiment. See, it is often the fringe CT crowd which insinuates hundreds sometimes thousands being complacent in a cover-up, false flag, conspiracy, etc.

Yet, most secrets have to be limited to a handful of people. And even when it's just a handful, dead bodies often appear. I would look at the Italian criminals, or the Asian Triad groups for examples. When there are arrests, and someone up top can be implicated, often a handful of bodies will either be found at the bottom of a river, or not found at all.

This only supports how hard it is to create an actual "conspiracy". And also explains why things are compartmentalized... why everything is a "need to know" and shows how unlikely many conspiracy theories often are.

As someone else mentioned, the two members are part of an elite unit. Not the ones who were involved in the Boston arrests. I didn't see anything showing that statement to be false. But while you guys are focused on "OMGZ BOSTON FALSE FLAGGERZ" there could be much bigger stories these two were apart of. Their counterparts are considered Seal Team 6:


Special Agents Christopher Lorek and Stephen Shaw were killed in the incident Friday. Both were members of the bureau's elite hostage rescue team, a group known most recently for rescuing an Alabama boy from a kidnapper in an underground bunker.

In 2011, two team members helped apprehend a Somali man who prosecutors say is the highest-ranking pirate whom federal officials have ever captured. Mohammad Saaili Shibin was the chief negotiator for a group of pirates who took four Americans hostage aboard their yacht and later killed them. Unlike the other pirates in the case, Shibin was arrested in Somalia. In August, a federal judge sentenced Shibin to a dozen life sentences.

Domestically, their resume includes rescuing nine hostages held at a federal prison in Talladega, Ala. in 1991 by Cuban inmates who were rioting to prevent their return to Cuba. In February, members of the team rescued a 5-year-old boy from a small underground bunker where he was being held hostage by a 65-year-old man. The kidnapper was killed by agents.


www.komonews.com...

I don't think my source is posting a direct resume for the two guys, but simply what their unit was involved in. Now... You have many things going on besides Boston, even the Osama burial decision of blocking burial photos, etc. Benghazi, IRS, and a number of other scandals.

If this was an "accident" and not an accident. There are a number of things these guys could have been involved in, where they could have been playing Dr. Benjamin McKennas.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:35 AM
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Originally posted by Another_Nut
Wow. We should have seen this coming

There have now been more deaths associated with the bombing than were killed in the actual blast.

Does this not scream coverup?

Does this not show loose ends being tied up?

Eta it's not a Boston bombing thread without boncho to tell us to move along.

where is he?

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Just finished. What evidence do you have linking them to Boston? I'm definitely curious if you have it. (You might want to keep on the DL though...
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Since people are falling from helicopters because of it, supposedly.

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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:36 AM
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Originally posted by AQuestion
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Dear DarthFazer,

Please don't jump to conclusions. It said the unit was involved in Tsarnaev's arrest, not that they were. How big is the anti-terrorism unit of the FBI, I am guessing it is pretty big. Not everyone in the unit was involved in the arrest.


Perhaps, or maybe they found out about something they were not suppose to know? If it is a conspiracy we will never know will we. Dead men don't talk. This is mere speculation what can it hurt? Well yeah it is a coincidence, at least that is what they would want us to think. I mean if I was them I would be in damage control mode too
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