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Police respond to 'serious incident' in Woolwich

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:28 PM
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by theabsolutetruth
reply to post by FOXMULDER147
 


Reportedly Nigeria / Somalia, they still stick to their culture even if they were brought to the UK as children, the whole sub culture thing in the UK from immigrants is very apparent, especially in places like London.


The same thing is happening in my country, Canada. Lots of the violence in our largest city is done by the Somali gangs.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by old_god
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So he makes assumptions as facts and then takes a sweeping argument and is right? You are as bad as him then I am afraid and this is the problem.

No gives a damn about actually asking the right questions, everyone is interesting in the new enemy. I don't need to belittle anyone, he did a good job of it himself but I do get a little wound up at the presumptuous attitude of people.

Just because violence or intolerant behaviour doesn't mean that every and anyone is of that same group and denomination?

As for that man's comments about Jihad, couldn't be so far from the truth - he is quoting the hardlined interpretation of Islam, by Salafi's and Wahabi's who unfortunately are taking a hold of much of the youth in the UK now. True Islam teaches the opposite, that Jihad is the battle within, fighting ones own desires, addictions and vices.

But no one wants to hear that, people don't want to believe that the majority want peace so everyone desires a new enemy.


Well said



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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Dude, as horrific as the scene in the original video is, they will never show people getting shot on UK TV.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
EDL supporters are apparently marching down the streets in Woolwich


Not just marching.
Like the thugs they are, they're wearing balaclavas, and hurling glass bottles at police.

Where are all those EDL supporters on here when you need them



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by WonderBoi
Another question: They were able to get an interview with the "attacker", after the incident; but WHY don't they have footage of the attackers being shot by police? It's like they give the viewer "just enough" for them to form their biased opinions, based on their sensationalistic viewpoints. I didn't know this was a "religious" attack, but it's weird how it's suddenly become one. Sandy Hook shooter wasn't Muslim.
Jus' Sayin'.


To expand on that would be why did the photographer stop filming or did (s)he?
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:32 PM
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There's more to this story than meets the eye, COBRA, is involved which signifies that intelligence was most likely known prior to the incident.

Also I have just received information that military personnel are to travel in civilian clothes when not on duty. This would arouse suspicion that an influx in similar attacks may be imminent.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by Onami
A mosque has been attacked in retaliatin of the murder according to MP's .







What do you expect?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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If the attackers are still alive, I say patch them up.....then lock them in the barracks with the squaddies and let nature take its course! Lets see how brave they are then!

Takes a big man to run someone over and then attack them with machetes doesn't it?!



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by xavi1000

Originally posted by stumason
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Because they invited people to watch, film and record what they were doing and many bystanders actually tried to intervene and find out what the hell was going on.. It seems it was clear they had no intention of harming "civilians" and were waiting for the cops to show up...


Yeah , no intention to harm civliians after they chopped the soldiers head
behavior of some of the people watching is very strange .
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The majority of Britons are good people and won't be brow beaten and reduced to the level of the scum who consider us enemies.

People were calling for the immediate death of these terrorists but I can't think of a better response than what was seen today. It's a small victory for civilised society and human decency and the relatives of the people who tried to help should be proud.

It's composure and goodness like that which will defeat the terrorists in the long run, not adding flames to the fire by acting like savages and stooping to their level. That crowd could have killed them in anger and cold blood easily enough but they didn't.

I concede it must be strange to look at a civilised society from the outside though



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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English defence leage are protesting the death in Essex, what a bunch of idiots.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Based on his skin colour I would guess Uganda, Senegal or Nigeria. Other parts of Africa have lighter coloured

Uganda is dominantly Christian has a small amount of muslims (12% according to Wiki), Nigeria is dominantly muslim, same is at Senegal

Based on the situations in both of these countries, I would exclude Senegal, as it is quite stable.

Uganda has lots of issues, although there is not much to do with religion, as far as I know.

Nigeria has lots of religious issues. There have several massacres there in the recent decades, very strong conflicts between christians and muslims.
en.wikipedia.org...

So based on the speech the guy made about something like that happening in his land often, then I would make my bets him being Nigerian. Other areas with war have too light-skinned black people on average.

Although it is hard to understand his reasons. Western Media has been quite silent about the happenings in African nations. So I would not be surprised if he actually was not supporting the extremists in Nigeria, as predominantly Christians are killed round there. If he was from Nigeria, he might have performed his actions in order to make the media focus on what is happening there and hope it will be stopped. In his mind he might have been martyr for bringing peace to his country.

Who knows what was in his mind, when he committed this horrible action, but that is where my mind lead me to.

BTW. Supporting all Muslims being deported can be compared to all guns taken away. Most people do not use guns for violence, yet some do. Do the others need to lose their guns also because of a few insane persons?

Whatever is done, it is nearly impossible to stop hard-core extremists. In this case we are talking about hundreds of thousands/even millions of people being deported because of two insane persons... That is absurd...

Personally, I am supporting stricter gun laws, but thought that would be a good comparison for some more "agressive" US posts I´ve noticed here.


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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by seabhac-rua
reply to post by WonderBoi
 

Dude, as horrific as the scene in the original video is, they will never show people getting shot on UK TV.
Do you have the "original video"? I'd like to see it. It can't be as "horrific" as some of the scenes, in Hollywood's blockbuster movies. Please, tell me the difference between this and that? Our subconscious doesn't recognize those differences; and it's the subconscious mind that Hollywood/Govt is attacking! Who gets that? No matter what this situation is "about", the seeds for their agenda have already been planted deep in our subconscious. How your conscious mind responds, is a whole different story.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
EDL supporters are apparently marching down the streets in Woolwich


Not just marching.
Like the thugs they are, they're wearing balaclavas, and hurling glass bottles at police.

Where are all those EDL supporters on here when you need them


If there is any kind of conspiracy here it's the EDL suddenly appearing - they're idiots.

Marching down the street, throwing bottles at the police so that the government can show us what thugs look like and we can all tut at them and make sure we don't protest or complain at all so as not to be associated with them in any way shape or form.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by whatzshaken


To expand on that would be why did the photographer stop filming or did (s)he?
edit on 22-5-2013 by whatzshaken because: (no reason given)



He didn't, the news just isn't showing it all.
Saw some footage of him shouting at police "why did you take 30 minutes to get here, he's dead because you were late"

God knows what else he filmed or how long the full interview with the killer really was, and whether the killers charged police or whether police shot first or whatever else.

Hopefully someone leaks the full video.

Hopefully someone else filmed the police shooting the killers and uploads it, not because I love gore and want to see, but because I want a full, clear picture of what happened, not edited clips.

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edit on 22-5-2013 by stargatetravels because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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I do think its a bit strange how Cameron was out of the country when this happened though...I dunno...Just adds another dimension to this. Kind of like when we seen Bush get that word in his ear, whilst reading to the school kids or whatever he was up to on 9/11...


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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by old_god
reply to post by The X
 


So he makes assumptions as facts and then takes a sweeping argument and is right? You are as bad as him then I am afraid and this is the problem.

No gives a damn about actually asking the right questions, everyone is interesting in the new enemy. I don't need to belittle anyone, he did a good job of it himself but I do get a little wound up at the presumptuous attitude of people.

Just because violence or intolerant behaviour doesn't mean that every and anyone is of that same group and denomination?

As for that man's comments about Jihad, couldn't be so far from the truth - he is quoting the hardlined interpretation of Islam, by Salafi's and Wahabi's who unfortunately are taking a hold of much of the youth in the UK now. True Islam teaches the opposite, that Jihad is the battle within, fighting ones own desires, addictions and vices.

But no one wants to hear that, people don't want to believe that the majority want peace so everyone desires a new enemy.


Yes, the majority want peace, but what about the millions who do not (and yes, even a small minority of Muslims extremists equals this). As you have said, there is a hard lined interpretation of Islam that is very extremist.

This isn't going to be a war that we normally know about, this is going to be a war of ideology. They are more then willing to die to get a chance to inflict damage on "us" Yes, this is going to make lives difficult for moderate Muslims but what do you want us to do? All well and good to say "but the majority are peaceful and loving" while there are some who want to do you ill.

All I can say is the moderates need to clean their house. They are the ones who know the bad ones are.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist

Originally posted by Onami
A mosque has been attacked in retaliatin of the murder according to MP's .



What do you expect?
Here comes the Jihad.
I hope this isn't the "shot" we've been expecting. Now, that would be LOCO! Who's ready for WW3?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by Onami
English defence leage are protesting the death in Essex, what a bunch of idiots.



Why?

This was bound to happen sooner or later with all the tensions about.

The real question here should be 'why did the Government let it get so bad?

Yes, we must blame them because they have let these Radicals build up in the UK and not done anything about it.

All they had to do was watch videos on youtube, arrest em and chuck em in the Sea.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:39 PM
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English defence leage are protesting the death in Essex, what a bunch of idiots.


Why are they idiots?
Because they are protesting?
Or because of the manner in which they are protesting?




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