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Police respond to 'serious incident' in Woolwich

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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is the west at war with islam?

yet?

west + islam = blood




posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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reply to post by Freeborn
 


Yes.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Wifibrains

Originally posted by Gazmeister

Originally posted by paratus

Originally posted by Gazmeister

Originally posted by paratus

Originally posted by Gazmeister

Originally posted by paratus

Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
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true but other reports have quoted the men as saying "ahallu Akbar" and during the video he makes mention of how we should get rid of our government and makes statements of a political nature such as talking about "his lands".

in accordance with the UK's official definition of terrorism that would make this attack qualify as a act of terrorism and the reports surrounding this attack all point to it being an attack by radical Islamists.


Can you link to the other reports please?
I have seen no solid evidence of the Allah reference.
How is this ALREADY radical ISLAMISTS???
How do you know he is not with the EDL???
How are you qualifying your sources and evidence?




Are you being for real?!?! Watch the damn video.


Watched it numerous times, post time in vid where he say it specifically.

Good luck with that.


www.liveleak.com...

Second video about 30 seconds in. Again, watch it.


All I hear is
"Get on the ground"
Both perps are on the ground after being shot at this point.
And the other female cop screaming orders as well.


"Get on the ground?" And yet according to you, you said they were already down.
So please tell me exactly why you would tell someone to get after they were already on the ground?
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I think it says "getchya hands out now" it sounds nothing like ahallhu akbah.
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Wow you got it!!!

Nice ears. My headphones suck at the office.

Good find



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens

Originally posted by vagabondrobb
reply to post by DrHammondStoat
 


You don't need to remain skeptical



This was a religiously motivated attack.. No government conspiracy.
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How are you so sure of this?

Even after the attack, they still seemed to be waiting for something - oh...maybe the cops?

Yeah right the UK government trains people to chop soldiers heads off in broad daylight. If you really think that then you are so badly warped with the conspiracy bug you are beyond help.

What you see is someone who is so brainwashed that they actually believe they are doing nothing wrong.

I mean what planet have you been on given all the wacky groups there have been over the last 50 years ? We have had many many brainwashed groups over the years the latest one is the fundamental Islamist whose solution is to chop people up with machete's. FYI do you remember the hutus and tutsis ? That was tribal and people chopped women, children and babies with machete's. No conspiracy just plain mindless brainwashed tribalism.

It is time for people like you to wake up.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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This is very similar to the 2007 event that police managed to stop prior to it occuring

www.dailymail.co.uk...



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Gavin Barwell MP ‏@GavinBarwellMP 10m
When thinking about today's barbarity in #Woolwich ask yourself how the murderers want you to respond. Then do the exact opposite


They want you to be afraid of Muslims.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Indeed... How I want to respond is probably how they want me to respond..

By ignoring them totally and getting on with life exactly as before, they can never win. Over the years, many have tried to grind us Brits down - Keep Calm and Carry On!

In fact, i might even start wearing a Help for Heroes T shirt more often now... I'd like to see them cut my head off.....



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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been posted already....ooops
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by Power_Semi


And it has nothing to do with priests, you're trying to muddy the water - I'm talking about groups of men actively getting young girls hooked on drink and drugs and then forcing them to have sex with lots of other men, even driving them to different parts of the country to be used.

Some of these gangs are suspected of doing this to 40 or 50 girls, as young as 12 - what the hell do priests have to do with organised grroming of children.



The "elite" has been doing this for years, they certainly aint "islamic". Watch "Conspiracy Of Silence", or research the belgian paedophile ring that reached into high government. Or the cases that seem to follow the UN and NATO around the world.
Craziness has no racial or religious bias, stupidity has no bounds. We are all capable of the most extreme horrors, just given the right situation/environment.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:21 PM
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I feel safer here in Britain than I do in America. If our soldiers had guns on their time off, we'd most likely see more suicides and more murders, much like we do see in America (soldiers killing themselves, soldiers going haywire). Or maybe it's just Americans who are a bit crazy? Switzerland has lots of guns, but a low rate of gun crime...



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Rocker2013
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You're just repeating all the EDL/BNP propaganda, I am well aware of the facts of this country, and I am well aware that the vast majority of Muslims in this country are moderate, peaceful citizens.

Please go and preach your nonsense to a more gullible community.


No - it's YOU that's repeating the propaganda "peaceful", "religion of peace" "minority of extremists" "diversity" etc - they are just soundbites to try to get people like you on side with flooding the country with immigrants, and Blair and Brown are known 100% as fact to have done this deliberately for no other reason than to "rub the noses of the Tories in multi culturalism" - in other words to be able to call them racists if they objected, thereby gaining political brownie points for themselves, of people who are incapable of independent thought, like you.

The BNP/EDL have no voice, it's the mainstream parties who do the propaganda.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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Luckily, I believe that our troops here in Britain are civilized. If it was anywhere else, the soldiers would probably mutiny and go on vigilante retribution. I trust our soldiers not to do such things - or rather...I hope.


Having spoken to a few serving and ex-Servicemen, and one woman, I can only say that if they are representative of our Armed Services then whilst they are royally pissed off and very, very angry I very much doubt they are about to take the law into their own hands - they are professional soldiers.

But they do expect some sort of action from the government - I'm not sure what sort of action will appease but I'm certain that the typical flowery words and spin will not suffice.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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He says Allah Akbar.....Then someone else screams shoot him again...then, you hear the police addressing to them...What is disturbing is no one seems to seem like anything is happening as walking by...Third world terror in England...
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:22 PM
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In Northern Ireland, it was routine for every soldier to be armed at all times. Even going to the supermarket my dad was packing and he was an Engineer, not a combat soldier.

We might see, if this turns out to be a new and repeated tactic, our soldiers being routinely armed, if covertly.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by Power_Semi


And it has nothing to do with priests, you're trying to muddy the water - I'm talking about groups of men actively getting young girls hooked on drink and drugs and then forcing them to have sex with lots of other men, even driving them to different parts of the country to be used.

Some of these gangs are suspected of doing this to 40 or 50 girls, as young as 12 - what the hell do priests have to do with organised grroming of children.



The "elite" has been doing this for years, they certainly aint "islamic". Watch "Conspiracy Of Silence", or research the belgian paedophile ring that reached into high government. Or the cases that seem to follow the UN and NATO around the world.
Craziness has no racial or religious bias, stupidity has no bounds. We are all capable of the most extreme horrors, just given the right situation/environment.


Sorry - the gangs of muslims who have recently been jailed have been PROVEN to have done it, you're trying to play that down with your conspiracy fantasy - PLUS - SO WHAT if anyone else has done it before, does that make it any less wrong?

It is an epidemic in this country and it is a muslim epidemic.

FACT.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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Merkel said long time ago : German multicultural society has failed

www.bbc.co.uk...


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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by conz1992
www.bbc.co.uk...

I don't know how credible the BBC are, but there are 'suspicions' that it is a terrorist attack, there are no confirmations as of yet if it was a terrorist attack, or even if it was a soldier that was killed.



What do you mean? Of course, it's a terrorist attack. What else could it be? Man gets head chopped off. If that's not terrifying, what is? Why must there be confirmation, that it's perpetrators are Muslim, or Arabic descent, before the label "terrorist" can be applied? In the days of IRA resistance, this would terror by Irish. But, it doesn't matter who is doing the terrorizing. Terrorism is terrorism, it knows no color or ethnic group. Robbers often terrorize their victims, when they enter a house and the occupants wake up.

A man's head is lying on the ground, there's no need for "confirmations" of terror.

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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Paratus, I have to agree with all your posts here, I cannot hear any mention of Allah on any of the videos and in particular the witness 'Jamie' who has given a lengthy interview doesn't mention this either....


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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by HomoSapiensSapiens
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Luckily, I believe that our troops here in Britain are civilized. If it was anywhere else, the soldiers would probably mutiny and go on vigilante retribution. I trust our soldiers not to do such things - or rather...I hope.


Do you think the "tightened security" on London army barracks is to protect the soldiers, or is it more likely to be a lockdown to stop them going out and retaliating?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by Power_Semi

Originally posted by OneManArmy

Originally posted by Power_Semi


And it has nothing to do with priests, you're trying to muddy the water - I'm talking about groups of men actively getting young girls hooked on drink and drugs and then forcing them to have sex with lots of other men, even driving them to different parts of the country to be used.

Some of these gangs are suspected of doing this to 40 or 50 girls, as young as 12 - what the hell do priests have to do with organised grroming of children.



The "elite" has been doing this for years, they certainly aint "islamic". Watch "Conspiracy Of Silence", or research the belgian paedophile ring that reached into high government. Or the cases that seem to follow the UN and NATO around the world.
Craziness has no racial or religious bias, stupidity has no bounds. We are all capable of the most extreme horrors, just given the right situation/environment.


Sorry - the gangs of muslims who have recently been jailed have been PROVEN to have done it, you're trying to play that down with your conspiracy fantasy - PLUS - SO WHAT if anyone else has done it before, does that make it any less wrong?

It is an epidemic in this country and it is a muslim epidemic.

FACT.


Its hardly an epidemic. Any more than murder, rape, robbery, theft. fraud, motor offences etc are. All of which occur on a far far more frequent basis. Thats a FACT, which is provable. Lets not get things out of perspective.



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