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Police respond to 'serious incident' in Woolwich

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by spacedog1973

Your stats have no context. What does 'aggressive defenders of islam' mean? Also, what is 'hardcore islamists'? What exactly does that mean? Are we supposed to understand just by our own definition of the descriptive term?

Sounds like pretty poor propaganda to me and shame to you for not contextualising your information.


CBS News

If the hardcore Islamists had hacked your head off, would that have 'contextualized', in your mind, what a hardcore islamist is?


• 1 in 8 British Muslims support demonstrators who call for the death of those who insult Islam

ICM Research



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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
I can sum the events in six English words.

MINORITY
OF
Muslims
Engaged
In
Jihad


There you go, I fixed it for you to tell the truth



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by esdad71
reply to post by paratus
 


Really...what were they saying, we love England? You can also hear someone yell shoot them again...the suspects had guns also. So, if it was not the suspects, it was people in the streets which is scarier....


WTF are you defending this for anyway???



Relax angry elf.
The supposed video showing them saying allahsnakbar has been allegedly removed (go figure).
Trying to find other versions.
I guarantee there were other Muslims present, maybe this is one of their voices.
Can you guarantee that this is one of the attackers saying this (even though it is not) and not one of the other 50 bystanders?

Ignorance.... deny it.

Also, I'm not defending the pieces of pig s***.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Globalism has kicked over the Islamic hornet's nest, and someone has been stung.

How sad. How unnecessary.

It's not Islam - or even Islamic fundamentalism - which is the great evil in the world.

It's globalism.

But people wont see it that way.

Islam is what it is; it's been the same for centuries.

It's just now they're our neighbours and workmates.

The forces of globalism are waging constant war in the Middle East, because it's the one area of the planet which opposes 'progress'.

And so you get this horror on our streets.

Ultimately, it's all down to globalism.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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Luckily, I believe that our troops here in Britain are civilized. If it was anywhere else, the soldiers would probably mutiny and go on vigilante retribution. I trust our soldiers not to do such things - or rather...I hope.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:13 PM
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reply to post by spacedog1973
 


You dont know what hardcore islamist is ?
google mate , google



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by Corruption Exposed
 

Terror related ?possibly military personal?another paper said possibly the victim was beheaded at the scene while the two assailants told on lookers to take pictures?coincidence ?sure two guys picked this guy randomly and butchered him in the middle of the streets .
Or it was a gangland execution again in front of onlookers ?or a vendetta settled in public.
The only validity that this might have been a random, or targeted terrorist attack is these two assailants knew they were going to die as they were hacking this guy to pieces ,kamikaze mission if you will,this thing stinks no matter what
your desired perception is.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Cynicaleye
reply to post by Power_Semi
 


Yes, let's deport all Muslims even though 99% are perfectly peaceful. Idiot.


99 % will become 5 % if you draw Muhamed
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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Originally posted by Rocker2013

Originally posted by Power_Semi
During World War 2 America couldn't determine which of the Japanese Americans might be loyal to the land of the rising sun, and so they took them all off the streets and locked them all up.


And the USA has since had to apologize for that too.


Originally posted by Power_Semi
Similarly we don't know which of the muslims are "terrorists" (and this was in no way a terrorist attack, that's propaganda to try and hide how despicable people of this religion are), and so we should take a leaf out of Americas book and get rid of the lot of them.


America didn't "get rid" of them. They locked them all in prison camps. Many were then released when the war was over and went on to continue to be productive members of society, had kids, grand kids...

How many of those innocent people locked up in America ever did anything to hurt anyone? And yet you support the idea of locking people up for looking a certain way, being of a certain religion or believing in a certain God?


Originally posted by Power_Semi
How else can you be sure that while you're walking down the street you're not going to get run over and beheaded in broad daylight for wearing the wrong t-shirt.


So locking up all Muslims is going to protect you from the feral youth of this country? Is it going to protect you from wannabe gangstas? Is it going to protect you from all the other potential criminals you are FAR MORE LIKELY TO ENCOUNTER?


Originally posted by Power_Semi
These people that we have flooded this country with are barbarians, they are not compatible with our way of life, culture, values, and they do not belong here.


Again, you're calling hundreds of thousands of people "barbarians" because of the actions of two maniacs today. You don't even know they were Muslim.
And are you now calling Muslims or Immigrants "barbarians", because you do know there are plenty of BRITISH BORN Muslims too, right?


Originally posted by Power_Semi
We have had a massive pedophile scandal from this group of individuals, drugs on a massive scale, and a whole host of other really, really nasty stuff that doesn't belong here.


Sorry, are we talking about PRIESTS, 70's celebrities, Immigrants or specifically Muslims here?

Can you really not see how ridiculous you now sound?


You're talking nonsense, we have a major problem in this country with muslims, whether immigrants or children of immigrants.

You should come to Bradford and I'll give you some places to go for a walk - see what you think then.

And it has nothing to do with priests, you're trying to muddy the water - I'm talking about groups of men actively getting young girls hooked on drink and drugs and then forcing them to have sex with lots of other men, even driving them to different parts of the country to be used.

Some of these gangs are suspected of doing this to 40 or 50 girls, as young as 12 - what the hell do priests have to do with organised grroming of children.

I can understand some idiots wanting to jump on the namby pamby "racism" bandwagon, but really, defending and trying to belittle the significance of grroming young, underage girls for sex really shows your mentalitiy, and it isn't good.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by xavi1000
 


the pope is a hardcore catholic.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
 


Then they must first be stripped of citizenship. They are enemy soldiers who seek your destruction.

America, Australia, Canada, Sweden, China, Russia, Germany, France, Denmark, Indonesia, India, and others are all under assault from adherents to the Islamic faith and the Allah deity to which they offer us in sacrifice. We should not allow the Jihad to soil our lands.

Detain. Interrogate. Deport.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by Cynicaleye
 


Out of curiosity would you support the deportation of those Muslims with known links to extremist organisations and who openly support terrorism and acts such as occurred today?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by Cynicaleye
reply to post by Power_Semi
 


Yes, let's deport all Muslims even though 99% are perfectly peaceful. Idiot.


Who says 99% are peaceful? that's a number you've plucked out of fresh air to try and validate your idiotic non-point.

Offend Islam, go for a walk in "their" territory and it'll be you getting your head cut off.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
I can sum the events in four English words.

Muslims
Engaged
In
Jihad

Detain. Interrogate. Deport.


Let me try that.

People
Engaged
In
Violence

Detain. Try them in court(if possible,meaning had they not been shot). Sentence them(Life in prison or Death)

This isnt about religion,so very tired of hearing this BS.
Its about mentally disturbed,violent,stupid people,period.

They are unstable and easily influenced by religion,movies,music or cartoons.
Ever look at the average amount of murders in the U.S?
Gangland violence occurs daily.
All be it by the gun,not a knife.
And guess what,some of these gangstas attend church on sundays.
Big surprise,huh?
So are they violent christains?
Or are they influenced by the teachings of christ,when they are doing drive bys?
NO!

They are acting violently because they can,and choose to,the reasons are secondary.

So can people try and keep it to,2 nut cases,who happen to be muslim,killing an innocent person.
Or at least from hear on out,cover gang shootings,and include,they were,christians,or catholics or worshipped painted rainbows.

edit on 22-5-2013 by Black_Fox because: SpELLiNG



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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Foolish statements by these soldiers. Maybe they shouldn't have joined the army to go on their "tours". Did they ever think to ask themselves what the basis of their "tours" were? Did they ever think to themselves that maybe they weren't actually protecting Joe Bloggs, but rather the interests of the ruling classes and the wealthiest?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:17 PM
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I dont know who this guy is , but this is how i feel



Gavin Barwell MP ‏@GavinBarwellMP 10m
When thinking about today's barbarity in #Woolwich ask yourself how the murderers want you to respond. Then do the exact opposite



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by OneManArmy
reply to post by xavi1000
 


the pope is a hardcore catholic.

hardcore catholics are known pedos , not for beheading heads. God , save me from the religion !
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by spacedog1973

Your stats have no context. What does 'aggressive defenders of islam' mean? Also, what is 'hardcore islamists'? What exactly does that mean? Are we supposed to understand just by our own definition of the descriptive term?

Sounds like pretty poor propaganda to me and shame to you for not contextualising your information.


CBS News


Perhaps if the hardcore Islamists had hacked your head off rather than the young soldier, that would have 'contextualized' what a hardcore islamist is in your mind.


Support for Suicide Bombing of Civilian Targets Among Younger Muslims (aged 18-29)

USA 26%
UK 35%
France 42%
Germany 22%
Spain 29%

Pew Research Poll (2007)




You'd have done better to do more than cut and paste your information. This is a conspiracy site. Investigating rather than regurgitating is valued. Perhaps you might want to look over that poll and judge for yourself if the question is loaded, and also, if your can try to take out some of the emotiveness from your comments.

The point that you find difficult to understand is that a statement, or thought is far different from an action. Being or feeling disenfranchised can naturally make people hold various feelings which probably aren't approved of by wider society. A lot of thos thought and feelings will be shared by many on this site.

Where you seem to be confused when reading this and especially the poll, is that intention to act, preference, even stated intention is not implemented. Otherwise there would obviously be a far widespread of these incidents.

But by all means, take the more extreme view. Its only a view isn't it? As for my needing my head being hacked off for me to understand the context, what a stupid and pointless thing to say. Surely you know that? No, you probably don't.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:18 PM
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You're just repeating all the EDL/BNP propaganda, I am well aware of the facts of this country, and I am well aware that the vast majority of Muslims in this country are moderate, peaceful citizens.

Please go and preach your nonsense to a more gullible community.



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