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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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Just reviewing the McCarthy-era propaganda video in the OP again.
It reminded me very much of threads made a few years back on the Taliban and pedophilia.

I think Google search results are not worthy of posting again, but lets just say that religious groups who have sects in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks.

Even more obviously the whole religious facade hardly focuses on normal heterosexuality, especially not visually.

That seems to concur with my suspicion that fanatical homophobia hides or detracts from very obvious homo-eroticism and unhealthy and dishonest attraction.

I'd say it's a cornerstone of fascism.
So open homosexuality is denied at all costs.
But Islamist material is intensely male-male fantastical and homosocial.
It's not uniquely so, and not obviously so to straight men.
However, there must be something intensely unconscious going on that's like an attraction to that milieu.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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If by "jew" than you mean the nonbelieving secular "jews", yeah i can see why they would be for that since they have no problems with pornography, idolary and homosexuality. However, a nonreligious jew is not a jew, theyre just another heathen.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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Divide and conquer you all know the motto.Politics certainly were looking forward to it considering gays didn't vote that much as far as i know now they will.
If you guys have done your homework on the Giants e.t's you know the jews worship an evil e.t, this alone give a whole new perspective on this pro gay marriage push doesn't it ?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 09:02 PM
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Jews and gays?

Are these the major world problems?

Only along narrow conspiracy lines.

But the people who try and spread those conspiracies must increasingly answer.

Off-duty native soldiers are being killed in Europe by Muslim extremists.

Gays and Jews will probably be the least of their problems soon...

They had the chance to address the death cult in their own ranks, but instead they wasted their time trying to sow more discord amongst others.

Now the world is awake, despite the best liberal attempts at damage control.

I'm just saying ... no hatred to any member and love to all.
I no longer feel an urge to explain myself.
The tide for me has turned.

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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If by "jew" than you mean the nonbelieving secular "jews", yeah i can see why they would be for that since they have no problems with pornography, idolary and homosexuality. However, a nonreligious jew is not a jew, theyre just another heathen.


Yes, I am talking about the non-believing secular Jews. I am quite aware that the religious Jews oppose homosexuality.

Why are they doing this? What do they hope to achieve by manipulating peoples attitudes on homosexuality?



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 12:47 AM
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Originally posted by mikeone718
It all makes sense now.

Being anti gay is the new anti semite.


It wouldn't surprise me. And I'm gay. And I don't hate Jews either. I just don't want anyone using me this way.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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I don't think "anti-gay" means the same as "antisemitic" at all.

Anti-gay is more just a factual description to me, such as: "Some verses in the Bible instruct that a wife who was not a provable virgin at marriage must be stoned to death, and some verses are also anti-gay."

That's a neutral and factual description.

A more radical tone would use the terms "homophobes" or "homophobia".
I try to use them sparingly these days.

But the true homophobes and antisemites do sometimes exist.

Some revel in it.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
What do they hope to achieve by manipulating peoples attitudes on homosexuality?

Maybe they hope to help bring people out of the dark ages. Maybe they hope to help end biogtry against homosexuals. Maybe they hope to educate anti-gay people on the fact that homosexuality is a normal aspect of the animal kingdom - which humans are a part of. Maybe there isn't some 'nefarious plot and they just aren't hung up on who is gay and who isn't like bigots are. Who knows.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 06:11 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
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If by "jew" than you mean the nonbelieving secular "jews", yeah i can see why they would be for that since they have no problems with pornography, idolary and homosexuality. However, a nonreligious jew is not a jew, theyre just another heathen.


Yes, I am talking about the non-believing secular Jews. I am quite aware that the religious Jews oppose homosexuality.

Why are they doing this? What do they hope to achieve by manipulating peoples attitudes on homosexuality?


The same thing all the others want, the destruction of traditional marriage between man and woman.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 06:23 AM
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Originally posted by halfoldman
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But the true homophobes and antisemites do sometimes exist.

Some revel in it.



I certainly wouldn't deny that they do. Real terrorists exist too. But I wouldn't accuse everyone who looks suspicious a terrorist just because the existence of real terrorists makes it easy to do.

At any rate. I am well aware of the homophobes. They're going to think and feel what they choose to and there's nothing I can do about it.

And my point is the left is exploiting minorities here just as they always do. Blacks, Jews, women, gays. Whatever. If they can use your vulnerabilities (and being a minority is always a vulnerability) to piss you off and turn you on their political enemies, they'll probably try every trick in the book.]
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 06:38 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Not really surprising. The Jewish faith is the most tolerant of religions.

unless you are an ethiopian Jew
or a PALISTINIAN

This is only slightly off topic but it Illustrates the dicotomy between the preached and the actions:
these folks don't really care which cattle breed with which cattle unless it suits their aim of controlling the herd


Apartheid regimes rely on three “Pillars of Apartheid” to maintain their domination
•Pillar 1: The state codifies into law a preferred identity, and then establishes adjunct laws that grant preferential legal status and material privileges to the preferred group on the basis of their identity while discriminating against the non-preferred group on the basis of the inferior status afforded them.
•Pillar 2: The state segregates the population into geographic areas based on their identity. The favored identity receives preferential access to land, water, other resources, and to government benefits and services while the non-preferred group is confined to ever shrinking non-contiguous besieged territorial enclaves.
•Pillar 3: The state establishes security laws and policies designed to suppress any opposition to the regime. The system of domination is reinforced through assassinations; administrative detention; torture; cruel, inhumane, or degrading treatment; and arbitrary arrest and imprisonment of the non-preferred group.an advisory opinion on the question of Israel’s practices in occupied Palestinian territory.

Using these criteria, the May 2009 South African study found that “Israel, since 1967, is the belligerent Occupying Power in occupied Palestinian territory, and that its occupation of these territories has become a colonial enterprise which implements a system of apartheid.”

The Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions- USA has summarized the findings of this study to make the results accessible to the public, to help people understand that talk of apartheid is more than just rhetoric, and to provide a tool which concerned citizens can use to help bring an end to Israel’s apartheid regime.

gazagiftaid.org...

thats tolerance


on topic
LGBT rights in Israel


Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) rights in Israel are considered the most progressive in the Middle East and Asia.[1] In November 2005, a groundbreaking court decision in Israel ruled that a lesbian spouse could officially adopt a child born to her current partner by artificial insemination from an anonymous sperm donor; this ruling came despite protests by the minority Orthodox Jewish parliamentary parties. Common law marriage which grants most of the official marriage rights to the spouse has been achieved, but full official same-sex marriage has not yet been sanctioned.

en.wikipedia.org...

The "jews" mentioned in the OP have used considerable of other peoples lives land and money to create thier own state:
Why not govern it and leave the other peoples to govern thier own?
or should GOY cattle be allowed to govern themselves?


shoemaker look to your last
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posted on May, 23 2013 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
According to Bidens revelation, the gay lifestyle has become normalized... not because of values such as "equality" and "justice" or whatever colorful terms they use to promote it with, but rather because of Jewish influenced media.


You cannot possiby prove that.
Is the decline of Christianity around the world the result of Jewish controlled media too?
Is the abolition of racial segregation the result of media manipulation?

Sometimes people JUST EVOLVE, and it doesn't take "manipulation".

I think you are deliberately trying to confuse natural social evolution with "manipulation" because you don't like the way your society is evolving and you want to blame a group of people for it. The fact is, society changes, it always has, media then reflects those cultural changes, and society evolves again...

There is a fundamental morality within people that doesn't need instruction from a religious group. People generally know right from wrong, and they know that denying other people freedom is wrong, THAT is why society is changing. People are seeing that their views are not minority views, that millions of others outside of their closed religious group feel the same way about individual rights as they do, and they are fighting the bigotry from within.

The internet is the most powerful force for social change right now, not some TV channel and not some Jewish made show. News and media sharing across the world has opened up the larger society of Earth to previously closed communities, and giving them information to come to better conclusions about religion, rights and who gets to tell others how to live.

That is what is causing so much change. Will and Grace might have influenced a teenage audience to be more open and accepting of others, but it wouldn't have had any effect on a closed religious community like the Internet can.

And you know, this has pretty much been proven by several countries that want to restrict internet access for their people. That's because they know that information is power.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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Zionists have an agenda to reform the world to their own standards and expectations,take over the world if you will,, not physically but rather by brainwashing and manipulating the masses so we all act and think exactly as they wish us to...They are doing a heck of a good job of downgrading family values,faiths and morality in general by producing movies,series,books,music,arts,you name it....At first they tried cultural cleansing on the third world countries and since it worked pretty well in there, they decided to do it with the whole world including the Americans...Just look at the divorce rates, low confidence and lack of motivations in the youth,social violence or your 12 yrs old's favorite idols,I am not saying it is all their fault,but It is not too hard to follow the evil trend that Hollywood planned and executed for decades to turn us all into what we mostly are right now...lately it seems they all ran out of ideas and are finally about to blow up their cover.Some say this is also preplanned.



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 11:48 AM
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well they do control the media and most of the population get there morals from the tv so yeah .......lets kick back and watch society crumble



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 02:59 PM
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Did Biden steal/plagiarize this speech? He is well-known for doing that in countless speeches. Sorry I'm off-topic, sort of.

Here's an example of Biden biting other politician's lines.


On the topic at hand. Unless those Jewish leaders have legislative seats in the required states to legislate such changes, his theory is unfounded. Or is he confirming the surreptitious manipulation of the people through the various media outlets?



posted on May, 23 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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Why on earth are jewish groups pushing for more immigration into Sweden . Leave Sweden alone you rascals . It has a great viking culture and your jewish groups want that destroyed . Why oh why ..come on any jewish groups answer WHY
Not that you are smarter than everyone else and are the choosen ones so you must destroy all others as God wants you too. Thats not an answer
Give a real answer
BTW , I have actually been given that answer , that Jewish ahkenazis are smater than all others according to some survey
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posted on May, 27 2013 @ 02:12 AM
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It's curious how this thread hasn't been deleted. It smacks of antisemitism.

Eh, I'm just posting what Biden said regarding Jewish influence on changing peoples attitudes on gays.


Instead of looking at these people and wondering, as a scientific minded thinker would: what makes these people so talented? What is it about their historical evolution as a people that primed them so well for intellectual pursuits? Was it the intellectually stimulating study of the Talmud, which they made mandatory for all men, which has made their brains more 'attuned' to the intricacies of science?
Yes, the Jews are a smart bunch of people. I'm not denying that.

However, Jewish intellectual brilliance is not what this thread is about. As you can see, its got to do with Jewish industry leaders manipulation of the masses via their media.
It is as brilliant .. as it is manipulative and cunning.
Its like the case of an evil genius. You can't acknowledge the evil without acknowledging the genius part of it.


These are normal explanations for Jewish exceptionality. Abhorrent, and pathetically envious people, on the other hand, can't stand to think that Jews have earned their own exceptionality.

Nobody is envious of Jewish achievements.


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Hence, their widespread promotion of gay rights, abortion rights, animal rights, etc.

Promoting gay and abortion rights is NOT the same as subtly manipulating people into accepting a lifestyle that their forefathers saw as abominable.
If Jews are okay with homosexuality, then they should practice it within their communities... NOT covertly spread it among the goyim they live among.



posted on May, 28 2013 @ 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by intrepid

Originally posted by Astrocyte
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Am I sensing some sarcasm?


Not one bit. You look at Jews outlook on gays and it's pretty much, "Live and let live." Islam and Christianity, not so friendly.


But besides that, traditional Judaism has its extreme beliefs.


No doubt. Everyone does. Yet to see any entity that was as disgusting as Westboro though.


You are looking at liberal jewish Americans maybe, whom do not build their worldview in great part from the tora, just like liberal christian Americans have the same live and let live approach.

The people whom are more tolerant are the ones whom put their religious background at a comfortable distance. Try to go to the bible belt, or to Israel and see how modern and liberal the orthodoxs are.





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