D.C. man fined $1000 after saving boy's life

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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 03:09 AM
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If I were this boy's father, I would personally give the man back his $1000 and buy him a carton of beer.

No way could I see someone who saved my son's life be punished for it.




posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by SQUEALER

Originally posted by Cuervo
I don't know what you guys expect to happen. Are you saying we should let crimes slide as long as they're committed during a good deed?


Well, let's look at it this way. Cop sees man driving car above speed limit. So, cop races after him, and passes him, forcing him to slow down and stop. Cop gives him ticket. But, cop had to break the law himself, going above the speed limit, in order to do his good deed.



Its my understanding that the law does provide for the ability for police to exceed the speed limit in the performance of their duty, so no, that example doesnt work.

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How about this one:

A little old lady wants to cross the road, but the traffic is too heavy.

So kind citizen (lets call him Freddie) makes a powerful bomb using a pressure cooker and blows it up in the middle of the road, destroying several cars, injuring many, and killing three people. Some traffic still tries to get past the wreckage, so Freddie goes back inside, finds a sledgehammer, and smashes cars that try to go past the mess.

With the ensuing chaos, the road is now blocked and the little old lady can cross safely.

Q. Do we lay any charges against Freddie?
A. Surely not, helping the little old lady cross the road is a "good deed".



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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In my book he has saved a kids life and he should have been rewarded for that not punished. If he hadn't have saved that kids life then that would be one less tax payer for the government in the future.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 05:28 AM
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So they went easy on him because he was only trying to do good and not cause harm BUT ..

If they didn't charge him with the 1000 dollar fine for the Unregistered weapon then...

Tons of freaks would come out of the woodwork and scream the Law is not being followed.

So you Break The Law and people think thats nuts just because you saved a life while breaking The Law? People.. you want your cake and to eat it too.. you CANT have it both ways.

This 1000 dollar fine is justified. Of course he should not have to pay it or perhaps someone else will pay it for him but the Cops would have been more wrong if they did not give him the fine.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 06:24 AM
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reply to post by MuzzleBreak
 

you guys need to learn to read
the problem is the UNREGISTERED WEAPONS



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Liquesence

That proves the point in my previous post:

They're mainly concerned with revenue.

Merciful? What a freakin' joke. Legal extortion.
If you were in his shoes, would you rather have several gun charges on a permanent criminal record, along with a $0.00 Fine?

They obviously did cut him quite a bit of slack.



Since you care so much, he probably wouldn't mind accepting your donation.

I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he did receive donations to assist with the fine. Just because he did receive a fine for breaking the law, that doesn't necessarily mean that any money will actually come out of his own pocket.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 07:31 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the fine he received.

He was NOT charged for the actions he took to save the boy's life.
He got fined for having unregistered guns. The fact that he had committed a crime prior to saving a boy's life has nothing to with that event.

A built-in hate for things can make you quite ignorant.
Had it been like the mob here thinks is "the right thing", it would mean that it is perfectly fine to break laws as long as you don't get caught and then expose your crimes by doing a good deed with the weapons/money/whatever it is your crimes have provided you with.

Morally, every one's glad he did what he did, regardless of the gun he used. He still needs to take his unrelated unlawful actions like everyone else.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 07:34 AM
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 07:52 AM
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Originally posted by Cuervo
I don't know what you guys expect to happen. Are you saying we should let crimes slide as long as they're committed during a good deed?

What they should do:
- Give him the minimum punishment for the crime.
- Give him a medal by the mayor.
- If they send him to jail, have the judge and mayor give him the medal upon release.

You can't just ignore laws because somebody is an awesome bad ass. At the same time, I hope they make him feel like a hero no matter what.

When the law says that you must punish the hero....

That tells me that there is a problem with the law.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:00 AM
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Maybe he should have said that it was a ''miracle''....and he found the gun just laying on the ground.
Fine ($1000 + legal fees????) > Gun Value ($400~); do the math.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:07 AM
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Last I knew it was nigh impossible to register a gun in DC. After Heller was decided a reporter went through the steps required and it took her months and thousands of dollars and it she was only able to get it done that quickly because she was a high profile case.

So unless DC magically registered his gun(s) for him in record time he is still in possession of the unregistered guns and still committing that "crime" unless DC took his guns from him.

Oh look:

And of course, they had to confiscate his guns and his 100 rounds of ammo. In addition to his 9mm Ruger, he also had an antique M-1 rifle and a Mossburg 12-gauge shotgun, both of which were in a storage unit in D.C.

Read more: politicaloutcast.com...


So this isnt a simple fine at all. Its confiscation of private property. Anyone want to place bets on whether or not he'll get them back?

Since when has "shall not be infringed" meant "shall be registered"?

This is what we mean when we say gun laws only hurt the law abiding. While this guy used a gun to save a life some crackhead across town is using one to rob or kill. The requirement to register only affects one of these people. See if you can guess which one.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:32 AM
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Listen up folks!!

Don't let their evil dissuade you!

Do the RIGHT THING no matter what the punishment!
Save that Kid even if you go to jail for ever!!

Because this is about your own very soul. All this material crap is an illusion.
Think.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:35 AM
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so op wants us to believe some hero was charged unfairly.

but why do you think batman wears a mask? you break laws to help people, you are still a criminal yourself.
crimes are not excused on some kind of merit system.

sheesh



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:39 AM
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Originally posted by Bisman
so op wants us to believe some hero was charged unfairly.

but why do you think batman wears a mask? you break laws to help people, you are still a criminal yourself.
crimes are not excused on some kind of merit system.

sheesh

Some are of the opinion that the law is unjust.

This case shows why.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
If I were this boy's father, I would personally give the man back his $1000 and buy him a carton of beer.

No way could I see someone who saved my son's life be punished for it.


Damn right Bro,I was about to write much the same thing,but you already said it.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Bisman
so op wants us to believe some hero was charged unfairly.

but why do you think batman wears a mask? you break laws to help people, you are still a criminal yourself.
crimes are not excused on some kind of merit system.

sheesh


Having a gun isn't a crime though.
We have a right to arm ourselves.

If anyone hates the Law, it's those who try to pass unconstitutional legislation rather than doing the RIGHT THING, and repealing the amendment the correct way by allowing the people to decide directly.

We are allowing corporations (cities, counties, state and federal govts) to pass anti-freedom policy that undermines the very foundation of our principles and we are left with no freedom and no security.

That's right. We have no freedom and no security left.
Criminals run this nation freely. Good people go to jail.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:47 AM
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Martin Luther King Jr went to jail for doing the right thing and saying no to evil.
So did Henry David Thoreau.

The government has always been the enemy of freedom, not it's protector.
History proves this.
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posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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Second Amendment says the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Requirements for registration, fees, permits, and federal regulations are all infringement. It's that simple. They need to review their laws in DC.



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 08:53 AM
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The guy getting fined is one of the most criminal actions of the court system. The judge that fined him should have criminal charges brought against him for interfering with a person's inalienable right to protect themselves or the lives of others. There has to be common sense used in the enforcement of laws, certain conditions make breaking the law justifiable. If there is an emergency it is supposed to be allowable to safely speed to the hospital, a policeman would look the other way and sometimes escort the person there. Now, the cop stops the person and writes them a ticket while someone dies.

Something is wrong in many places. Why did this guy even get charged with a crime in the first place?



posted on May, 22 2013 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by Cuervo
I don't know what you guys expect to happen. Are you saying we should let crimes slide as long as they're committed during a good deed?

What they should do:
- Give him the minimum punishment for the crime.
- Give him a medal by the mayor.
- If they send him to jail, have the judge and mayor give him the medal upon release.

You can't just ignore laws because somebody is an awesome bad ass. At the same time, I hope they make him feel like a hero no matter what.


Unless the "law" is not standing on the backbone of the constitution and violates common law, the only natural law of thou shalt not harm or ancient primitive cultures took actions against you, that exists at all. If a said "law" violates the constitution, it is a crime, and its a crime to follow it or enforce it. Don't follow crimes, because its a crime to follow a crime.

People really need to wake up and make a stand on things like this.
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