Youth Rioting in Stockholm, Sweden, in a mainly immigrant neighborhood - over 100 cars set of fire.

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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:19 AM
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Last week there was this case about a 69-year-old man being shot dead the police. It was quite a scandal, especially among immigrants. The man was menacing in the neighborhood of Husby with a machete, so police was called. The man immediately backed into the appartment and started cursing at the police from the balcony promising to kill them without putting the machete away. It came out that there was a woman also in the appartment and when the negotiations failed, in order to save here, the police just went in and unfortunately the man was killed, when he tried to attack the officer. At least that is what the official story tells.

Husby is a district in north Stockholm, which mainly consists of immigrants, around 80% are immigrants.
In response to several posts asking about the nations - mostly Muslim nations as far as I know, larger majority of the immigrants in that district. Media is trying to be more politically correct and not start racial discrimation against Muslims, that is why it is not mentioned in nearly any news items I have come across. Everywhere in mainstream media it just says immigrants.

On Sunday night riots began.


Youths rioted in northern Stockholm on Sunday night, setting fire to cars and throwing rocks at police, in what is believed to be a protest against the fatal police shooting of a machete-wielding man in the suburb last week.´

Witnesses claim at least 100 vehicles in the area were in flames. Another fire was lit in a nearby garage, resulting in the evacuation of the apartment block. Around 50 residents were taken care of and sheltered in buses that were on hand

A community-based organization that aims to organize residents of Stockholm's northern suburbs to fight for social justice claimed Sunday night's disturbances started as a "reaction to police brutality against citizens, our neighbours".

A local youth leader, who along with a small group of teens was out on the street on Sunday, told local newspaper editor Rouzbeh Djalaie that he was called a 'n-word' when he asked the police if they needed any help. The teens were called "monkeys".

Calm was restored to Husby by 5.30am. Police did not, however, make any arrests.


m.thelocal.se...
news.yahoo.com...

This night the riots continued for a second night in a row. Over 10 cars, including police car set on fire, uncontable number or rocks thrown into windows, stores robbed, building set to fire.

The Riot though expanded to neighboring neighborhoods Kistas, Tenstas and Rinkeby, although the damage there was nothing compared to Husby, just some smaller fires and rioters, but less angry.

The man killed is believed to be innocent by the rioters.

As far as I have heard it is quite a chaos there, streets filled with smoke. Like a small warfare.

I did not find any English source on it yet, sorry. If I find anything I´ll add here.

It is believed it might also happen today.



I´ve heard husby is quite peaceful neighborhood, despite the amount of immigrants, so this was quite a news for me. Who knows, there might be more to the story than we know.

The immigrants are quite a problem in Sweden. It is very easy to go live there and just live off the very high welfare. Most are just hard-working good people, but still most of the crime in Sweden is done by immigrants. I personally do not like the open policy towards immigrants. Here for example, it is not easy to get a licence to live here. Specialists get it easy, times less paperwork, but if you are not a specialist in your field, you do not get it that easily.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:26 AM
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I don't think this is anything, the YouTube videos I have seen suggest 50 youths involved, a few cars damaged and windows smashed...

In all honesty, this sounds like any Saturday night in Birmingham England.

There's no video of the "rioters" or crowd that I can find, no real evidence of any confrontation, and no real mass of destruction either.

What happened in LA was a riot, what we see happening in Athens are riots, and what we saw in the UK was rioting. This seems like a rowdy gang of youths causing criminal damage.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:28 AM
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This happened second night in a row. Mainstream media has not picked up yet. That is why I also wrote it here. This night there were more people, local media reporting hundreds of people.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:34 AM
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This isn't news. That is just life in the ghetto.
Immigrant have always had it hard. If they aren't abused by the wealthy as a cheap source of labor, they are excluded by the middle class, simply because they have a different set of traditions. Sure, a lot of them end up leeching on society, but usually as a result of their limited opportunities to get ahead in society.
First of they have gotta live with the stigma of being an immigrant, no matter what other qualities they might have. People will always see genetic heritage first. Second they've got to listen to spoiled idiots whine about their behavior, without ever recognizing how much easier they've had it themselves.

I am tempted to say that I hope they burn Stockholm to the ground. But i always believe there is a peaceful solution. People just get their heads out of their rears.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:47 AM
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If they have it so bad in Stockholm. Then they can move somewhere else.
Right?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mads1987
This isn't news. That is just life in the ghetto.
Immigrant have always had it hard. If they aren't abused by the wealthy as a cheap source of labor, they are excluded by the middle class, simply because they have a different set of traditions. Sure, a lot of them end up leeching on society, but usually as a result of their limited opportunities to get ahead in society.


I'm not sure that's really the situation in Sweden. Of all the European countries, Sweden is considered one of the most equal, democratic, free and liberal nations. They tend to hover around in the top 5 for almost everything, with education, health, economic equality and so on making it one of the most desirable nations.

The Swedish culture is not as competitive and monetarily based as America or the UK. People there don't generally work themselves into an early grave, they work to live, not live to work. It's a very social and open country, and there are a lot of opportunities there for people who want to have a happy life rather than a rich life.

This is what I know from people who live there, and while I haven't visited yet I do plan to in the future. It's a beautiful, modern and interesting country with the kind of liberal way of life that I can appreciate.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:05 AM
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They come because they know they can get welfare and the more kids they have the more money they can get. There are a lot of good hard working imigrants in europe, but most just like to drive big cars paid for by our tax euros. They can´t disipline their youth, they reign tyranny on other kids and youths. Sure, there are problems with intigration but this isn´t like america. There are no real geto´s here, so why do they act like there are? They have all the chances we have!

I had to work hard to get to where im at now. It does make me sick to see them coming here and taking our taxmoney and spending it on cars and bigscreen tvs. Also some of them come here and preach their hate religion against the west and do that wearing the newest air jordan or airmax models.


Sorry for the rant, but I see these youth gangs here every day. If they don´t like it in sweden, then they should go back home! Nuff said!!



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by Cabin
The man killed is believed to be innocent by the rioters.


Well, it was just a machete.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:07 AM
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I live in Copenhagen, Denmark. I could take a train and be in Sweden within the hour, and I have done so many times before. I've visited areas in Sweden where the majority of the population are immigrants, and I can recall hearing about this being a problem most of my childhood. To little was done to assimilate these people into the Swedish society, and now they prefer to live in ghettos with their 'own kind'.
None of the Scandinavian countries have a lot of trouble with immigrants, but they do still have some, just on a much smaller scale as other European countries. Which is why I generally wouldn't consider this story newsworthy.

But the thing that I feel people always forget is that immigrants are stupid. They aren''t born lazy or with low IQs as some people otherwise like to suggest. They aren't evil. But then why are they doing this? They are extremely frustrated, that's why, and they are acting out as frustrated people tend to do.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:08 AM
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Some thoughts after 40 years in Sweden
Hi all,
I first came to Sweden in 1968 - year of the Prague Spring. Moved here in 1969 and have now only 10 months to go before retiring after a lifetime as a freelance translator and interpreter. I'm moving south-west (love the sound of that!) to warmer climes and here are some thoughts after more than 40 years' experience here. BTW I'm British born and bred.

1) The Swedes are best in the world at everything, especially humility.
2) On crime, apart from the southern city of Malmö, not far from where I am, you are pretty safe here. The biggest danger is of being hit on the head by a Swede who's jumped from the 7th floor of his/her ridiculously expensive flat cram-packed with *kea tat.
3) On taxes, the tax form is quite simple, only three sentences: 'How much did you earn last year? What've you got left? Send it in!
4) The climate, you are likely to die of pneumonia, unless frostbite gets you first, while waiting for the ambulance that never arrives.
5) On food. I quote Bill Bryson from his highly illuminative Chapter on Stockholm in his book 'Neither Here Nor There' "Every meal is another heart-break".
6) The Swedes are a finger-wagging nation of moralists, for ever seeking out the moral high ground where they can clamber up and preach to the rest of us about how to run our lives. But there is hope, another quote, this time from Leo McKistry giving the best description of the Swedes I have ever read: 'Sanctimoniousness tempered by cowardice'
7) From personal experience, those employed (?) in the public health care sector can be sorted into two categories: 'worthless' and 'utterly worthless'.
8) On communications and social skills: The Swedes own more cell (mobile) phones than any other nation on earth. Which is surprising since they never speak to anybody. In fact it must be hell being a paramedic in this country, never sure how to tell a dead Swede from a live one (the dead ones usually have a faint smile).

If it is at all humanly possible, do have a good time here and, by the way, when are you leaving?
Blackie


read more here @ Living in Sweden as an Immigrant .



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:10 AM
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Any word on where these immigrants are from, or their background? In the U.S., it's common for certain details in cases to be left out of the media, in the interest of "political correctness". Sometimes, those details are part of the cause, and when ignored, the problems only get worse. Certainly, any group causing such issues should not be welcomed as immigrants to a country.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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I think it's lovely how you think of the US when I mention the word ghetto. But personally I prefer think of how the Nazis forced the Jewish people into ghettos during the second world war.

Either way. Yes, there are indeed ghettos in Sweden. In fact, I would be surprised if there aren't at least one ghetto in every single country in the world.

Ghetto are areas where the majority of the population in the area isn't descended from the native population. Sweden has plenty of these kinds of places, and so does Denmark.
The thing you fail to understand is, that even though it might seem that they have equal opportunities with you, fact is that they usually don't. Their parents have no qualification to help them with school work, so they are often behind their peers almost from the start, they generally have lower income and so on.
You need to look at their environment in general.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by Cabin
Husby is a district in north Stockholm, which mainly consists of immigrants, around 80% are immigrants.

Immigrants from where? And what's their 'beef'??
Are they failing to assimulate? Expecting hand outs and not getting enough free stuff?
Or are they being really mistreated in some way?

Gotta' give us more info, OP. Thanks.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:39 AM
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Yeah, well I give you some credit because some of the things you pointed out are true. Now what I meant by getto is the american type of getto were people get shot up every day like south central LA. Now the people im talking about really think they are living the "thug life" and they have no other way for survilal than to go out and sell weed or go rob people. They can live pretty decent from their wellfare here in Germany.

This is what I mean:




No im not a nazi, im not 100% german decent either I had to struggle with these people "mostly arabs" all of my life. I know in Belgien it is similar, or even worse with the imigrant situation. But man, my eyes see what they see around here and I say what I want to say. I really dont care what people think. I just don´t want my kids to struggle with these people.

I have reason to believe that the parent think it´s the teachers responsibility to teach them EVERYTHING! They don´t care what their kids are doing all day. I seen it with my own eyes. I know this doesnt apply for all imigrants but a lot. I even have friends that are from the middle east and their ashamed of those people. In germany we just call them asozial.

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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:45 AM
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It's a novel thought...but if Immigrants put half as much effort into fixing the place they are rightly from rather than trying to transform the place they choose to impose upon? Perhaps future generations wouldn't BE immigrating out of sheer grinding poverty and desperation quite as much. Of course, that requires damned hard work....trying to reform a bad place. Much easier to just move and become someone else's problem in a nation that supports the 'downtrodden'. As we see happen across Europe, the US and even Australia for that matter.

Wherever you go, there you are. As they're learning (perhaps?? We can hope??) running from a bad homeland tends to bring what made it bad WITH you....it doesn't solve anything. It doesn't stop the hordes looking for what they'll never find though. "success" without the backbreaking work to get there. Just my thoughts...

Perhaps some European nations need to show some of the intolerance back toward newly arrived immigrant communities which those communities so openly show the societies they CHOSE to join?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 07:57 AM
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You can even take your example down to the city level. A city report was reported in the news yesterday pointing out that the population of East Cleveland is declining, while the poverty level in the outlying suburbs is rising, along with the crime rates.

Just like when people move from one country to another, while the intention to move to a safer, better area and possible lifestyle is laudable, instead they bring their culture with them and refuse to assimilate.

It's like a spreading cancer.



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:05 AM
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I agree with what you are saying. The fact that responsibility for raising these children isn't clearly put on either the parents or the education system generates a lot of problems.
It's a very delicate and very complex issue, and I think it is one of the more urgent social problems, that we'll have to attend to in the near future.

The problem is that there isn't really any consensus on what these children should be taught, hence the education system can't do it. But clearly there are also a lot of parents who don't raise their children properly, and since we can't force them to do it, those children usually end up getting the short end of the stick.

So I think what is needed is a government agencies that actively can go in an replace the role as parent and as guides to the social life, for these kids. There are a lot of initiatives a long those lines, but so far they are restricted by the ethical paradigms as the education system.

Personally I would prefer a country based on science. I believe it is sometimes referred to as technocracy. A society where a consensus on any matter is generated by a scientific approach. I know that most, if not all, religious groups would have a lot of problems with such a society, and I understand how people in general would be skeptical about such a system, since science has been misinterpreted and abused before. But I do think that something like this is needed.
We live in a society which is becoming ever more fragmented by the second. We need something that can start pulling people back together.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:12 AM
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Thanks for the information.

I like to stay updated with what is going on in the world and it is posts like yours that I seek in order to give me insights into things that the MSM fails to present.

Any idea yet on how the government plans to respond or remedy the issues leading to the problem?



posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:20 AM
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I see the problems in education, not the culture the immigrants are bringing in. Most of them have come very poor areas with nearly no opportunites to get ahead in life. They just want to realise their "American Dream" in Sweden, they just want opportunities. Most are hard-workers, but unfortunately their education is low, so they get low-paying jobs in poorer areas. They have not much time for their children nor can they often can be a good example due to lower education. They can not teach their kids well. Their children have to pretty much raise themselves alone, growing up with other kids from similar families. Similar people stick together more. Due to parents not being able to help much, they often fall behind in education. All that plays much role. Of course that is not the same for everybody, just on average that is how it is happening. Poverty and uneducated parents can often play much role in the development of the youth

Of course, there is some racial discrimination in nearly all, even more tolerant countries, yet usually just the lower education plays much role. If you have born in poverty, in ghetto, it is not easy to get out anywhere, You have to have the power to separate yourselves from others, in a way to be an outcast. It is not easy being a good student when all your friends are not doing well and do not give much attention to studying. In an environment were studying is considered popular, it is very easy to get good grades.
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posted on May, 21 2013 @ 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by Cabin
Husby is a district in north Stockholm, which mainly consists of immigrants, around 80% are immigrants.

Immigrants from where? And what's their 'beef'??
Are they failing to assimulate? Expecting hand outs and not getting enough free stuff?
Or are they being really mistreated in some way?

Gotta' give us more info, OP. Thanks.

I hate to be "that guy" but when the article mentioned 'youths' I think it pretty much narrows it down to dark skinned people.





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