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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
reply to post by Spider879
Interesting stuff! I hope someone will be allowed to do the research, and reveal the results. It seems that, too often, such discoveries are covered up, because they disturb the status quo, or some such nonsense. Wouldn't it be great if studying history meant for truth, and not to make this or that group happy?
Out of curiosity, are you familiar with any other such discoveries? I have read tidbits about stuff in Australia being covered up before, but it's difficult getting good info without buying a book.
Originally posted by rickymouse
Whatever the elite decided to give value to by collecting, that is what became valuable. In my world, an oil painting by a good artist is worth the same no matter what his name.
Possibly made a pitstop on their oceanic adventure/voyage to loot and plunder the wealth of other nations but they themselves got robbed/mugged down under and some of the coins were remnants from the incident? just a WAG.
Originally posted by amraks
now logic tells me that someone bought them here possibly, but why?
Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
Ya know, the whole "discovered" thing is really stupid.
If white folks stumble on land that has nonwhite folks living on it, that land has already been discovered, regardless of the late arrival of Western civilization. Thus, I guarantee that Cook didn't discover anything.
Originally posted by Dumbass
I always wondered who discovered Europe.
Originally posted by Rocker2013
reply to post by Spider879
There are so many possibilities here that it's kind of a pointless story from the perspective of this being "evidence" of anything.
1. We have to trust the word of the person who found them.
2. They could have been placed there at any point in that 1000 years, from the day of their minting to the day the man found them.
3. They could have been deposited there by shipwreck, by debris or by other means. In a thousand years, if archaeologists discover Japanese coins in Alaska, does that mean it's Japanese territory or that a Japanese culture lives there now? No.
It's interesting as an "in other news" story, but without much more supporting evidence it actually proves nothing.
Originally posted by smurfy
James Cook did not really say "terra nullius"... well he did actually, but it was because an Aborigine had stuffed a spear up where the sun never shines, and what Cook actually meant was that he had no feeling from the Arass down, and that it was misinterpreted.
Well, it's a better story than believing that us Brits, stole Australia from the Aborigines without 'consultation' at least there was some interaction, although not likely the first.
Thanks I could have made the title 1000 yr old African coins Discovered in Australia but that would take away from the fun I believe the writer was going for...
When Isenberg discovered the copper coins he also found four coins that originated from the Dutch East India Company - with one dating back to 1690 raising memories of those early Dutch seafarers that stepped on Australian shores well before Cook.