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Originally posted by smyleegrl
Greetings, ATS!
Okay, I’ve got a burr under my saddle and its driving me nuts.
I am sick and tired of reading threads about how women are the root of all mankind’s problems. Can’t get a date? It’s because those darn women won’t give you the time of day…never mind the fact that you ooze disdain for women with every word. Society’s going to the dogs? It’s the fault of those darn women. How dare they want equal pay for equal work. How dare they have the audacity to want to live a life where they make their own decisions.
Honestly, what gives, ATS? We’re supposed to be denying ignorance and moving past this grade school mentality. Why are there so many threads blaming women OR men for all the evils in our society?
It’s the same as arguing that all Muslims are evil terrorists, all Christians deluded fundamentalists, all, all, all. That’s the problem right there…the word all.
When you categorize an entire group of people by one characteristic, you dehumanize them. And I propose that dehumanization is what leads to rape, murder, and ultimately, wars.
So please. Take a moment and recognize that people are people. Women, men, Muslims, lesbians, whoever…..we’re all just people.
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by smyleegrl
I have never read one thread on this site stating that women are the root of all evil... Typically it is said that religion is the root of all evil on this forum.
I am confused please elaborate on how you came to this conclusion
Originally posted by korathin
Those who are guilty are guilty. What they are guilty of is a matter of question, but something can never be forgiven nor forgotten.
I can understand why you would think this. I reread my op this morning it does come across as blaming men. By way of explanation, I will simply state that I wrote the op after spending considerate time in a very misogynistic thread.
Originally posted by ParasuvO
reply to post by smyleegrl
To be honest, your OP is not very spot on, this strange belief that people are "just people" is surely another fallacy that allows all kinds of oddball behaviours, now you are giving excuses to the problems.
It almost appears that you are mad at men, for not seeing things as freely as you, as in , "I am just a person, I should be allowed to screw up as often as I can".
I disagree. I think making mistakes is a very normal part of life.
It is a fact that almost everyone makes all kinds of mistakes, but it is not "normal".
Are you implying that most of the women on here are not deep thinkers or balanced? That women don't engage in introspection? Because I fervently disagree with that statement. I've seen countless thoughtless posts from BOTH genders, from all religions, nationalities, etc. That's why I wrote this thread. I want us to move past this childish nonsense of "he said/she said/they said"
The reason you see many of these kinds of posts here, should actually be cause for a red flag to be thrown up, since most of the guys on here, are very deep thinkers, are quite balanced and know what they see, they are not posting this in spite, but in sadness at the lack introspection going on.
Women are social creatures, no argument there. The language center of the brain is different in men and women. And women are far more critical about other women than we should be. I've seen it, too...men fight physically while women fight verbally/socially. Of the two, I'd rather just take a punch than be socially outcast.
Fact is, women talk about men a thousand times more than we do about them... gossip is over the top, and thought to be necessary. All this talk about men going on all the time, and never does any of them actually work on themselves, is what I see, all the while they trash any and all other women around them.
And it is true, the men who are shy and not mean to the girls actually scare the females most of the time, for we can see right through, but they want to give it a name, and just live in emotion.
Luckily I have noticed a shift going backwards out of these patterns, but the actual desperation of women to just be with someone is downright scary, if you pretend to be even remotely nice, they want to harness you in immediately, not realizing that we are not willing to be destroyed for no apparent reason...as soon as the past comes up, about the "idiot men" they have all dealt with or imagined too, get out immediately.
Originally posted by votan
reply to post by smyleegrl
I have never read one thread on this site stating that women are the root of all evil... Typically it is said that religion is the root of all evil on this forum.
I am confused please elaborate on how you came to this conclusion
Originally posted by Kang69
You know I have almost no experience with women, but I met one that turned my world upside down.
I think I experienced "limerence". I know not a lot of people don't experience this so it's kind of hard to explain, hell, I'm having a hard time understanding it.
We spent two weeks together in a foreign country and in the first time in my life I felt pure unbounded joy. I think I was happy for the first time in my life. Real happiness too. But maybe this is the guise of limerence, but I don't care, I would rather live two weeks with her then live the life I'm living now..
But I'm not one of these man childs that blames other people for his own problems. I find it hilarious that men have to blame the women. All problems come from within. Look inside yourself, you may not like what you see, but trust me, you'll have an easier time later down the line if you try to understand yourself better.
I know must of this is mumbo jumbo, but the fact remains you have quite a bit of people in this world that don't want to take responsibility for themselves.
Also, has anyone else experienced "limerence"? This is not a crush, this is a curse. I dream about her almost every night, and when I do I wake up in a cold sweat with a crushing weight on my chest and stomach. I feel like I'm being haunted and tortured.
The women I met on this trip made all other women look like insignificant ants. She was a beacon of light (this could be the limerence playing tricks on me) but she was one of these rare women that stood for good no matter what. We spent two weeks together and I felt like I knew her in a past life time. We would finish each others sentences, we were like an old married couple at a young age. Old souls.
And now I #ed it up like I do with a lot of things, and she will be in my dreams I think for my whole life. I'm not sure if she was my "soul-mate" but our chemistry together was something I could never even dream of having with a women.
Every day is just a constant numbness, god I hope this # ends, I hope I stop dreaming of her. I would rather be water boarded then go through this./end rant
Originally posted by smyleegrl
Greetings, ATS!
Okay, I’ve got a burr under my saddle and its driving me nuts.
I am sick and tired of reading threads about how women are the root of all mankind’s problems. Can’t get a date? It’s because those darn women won’t give you the time of day…never mind the fact that you ooze disdain for women with every word. Society’s going to the dogs? It’s the fault of those darn women. How dare they want equal pay for equal work. How dare they have the audacity to want to live a life where they make their own decisions.
Honestly, what gives, ATS? We’re supposed to be denying ignorance and moving past this grade school mentality. Why are there so many threads blaming women OR men for all the evils in our society?
It’s the same as arguing that all Muslims are evil terrorists, all Christians deluded fundamentalists, all, all, all. That’s the problem right there…the word all.
When you categorize an entire group of people by one characteristic, you dehumanize them. And I propose that dehumanization is what leads to rape, murder, and ultimately, wars.
So please. Take a moment and recognize that people are people. Women, men, Muslims, lesbians, whoever…..we’re all just people.
Women MUST heal men, Really??? Poor Poor men,
OK Taking THAT logic then Palestinians MUST HEAL the Poor Poor Zionists Blacks MUST HEAL the Poor Poor White Slave Master and KKK Racist Rape Victims and Child Rape Victims MUST Heal the Poor Poor Rapist and ABUSERS Jew Survivors of the Holocaust MUST HEAL the Poor Poor Nazis Sudanese women with their Breasts cut off and Children Slaves MUST HEAL their Poor Poor Captors Nine year old girl ganged raped and traded for a DOG in Afghanistan MUST HEAL her rapists, and the DOG too .......
I see. Sigh
Originally posted by clairvoyantrose
You know, I'm actually perfectly fine playing the role of a woman in society. From the dawn of time it has been about man and woman. One cannot survive without the other. I think women are straying too far from the nest and maybe we have caused a bunch of problems. Men are the hunters, we are the gatherers. We are there to help, understand, love unconditionally and back our man 100%.
If we all worked communally, life would be so much more fulfilling and us ladies wouldn't feel compelled to compete against man. I don't need to prove myself to anybody -- I just want to love and be loved.