Stop Dehumanizing People!

Unfortunately, it is easier for people to blame others, whether it be the opposite sex, a specific race, homosexuals, whatever, than it is to face their own issues.

Most of these threads are coming from weak minded people who cannot admit their own faults to themselves. It sounds harsh, but it is true.

I used to get frustrated with them. Now I worry for them.

reply to post by ObservingYou


You are right in general about this.
Putting that aside, what's behind this?
If there is a statistically significant correlation between gender and what you mention...
Is it cultural? Genetic? Evolutionary? Religious? Neurological?

Putting that aside, not dehumanizing people means not dehumanizing men, as well.
And, I'm assuming, not dehumanizing individuals.

By its very nature, one must humanize starting with themselves.
For otherwise you are dehumanizing those who dehumanize.

Originally posted by smyleegrl

I am however still coming around to the notion that Women are not the root of all evil...I suppose not unlike you smyleegrl they can't all be bad!

reply to post by abeverage

 

So....does this mean I'm the root of all evil? I got kinda confused with all the negatives in your post.

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.....TrAnSlAtInG...........translation complete...

Much Like you smyleegrl, not all women can be bad!

Better?

Well said, I am tired of hearing these stories about the loser weakling guy who can't get a girl.

You can't get a girl because you act like a loser weakling.

The problem now is that all the loser weaklings are even more of loser weaklings that when we grew up because they can hide in their room and see naked girls on the computer all day.


Yea, that other post today was really pussified i agree.

And yes, a huge percent of posts on ATS dehumanize one group or other. I am sick of people dehumanizing someone who believes in a particular religion.

The only people deserving dehumanization are the ones who rape, kill, torture, or do not act like a human.

Good post, thanks

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Okay, I’ve got a burr under my saddle and its driving me nuts. I am sick and tired of reading threads about how women are the root of all mankind’s problems. Can’t get a date? It’s because those darn women won’t give you the time of…
/volume knob down

/volume knob up
...dehumanize them. And I propose that dehumanization is what leads to rape, murder, and ultimately, wars. So please. Take a moment and recognize that people are people. Women, men, Muslims, lesbians, whoever…..we’re all just people.

just kidding. hi, i agree with you. especially the last few lines there, good insight into the human condition.

i see this whole issue as "polarity encoding"
typically men and women would have relationships, have babies and procreate the species... ya with me? ..so i encourage anyone interested in the finer points of all this, to pay attention how the male/female interaction is *changing* and has been changing for a while now.. now it gets messy, and if i say what i really think i'll be called something, (..if only i was able to speak in new age flower language where everyone lives in a perfect fairy world)

polarity (male / female)
encoding (mass programming, implanting information, etc)

the "change" was foisted upon us from long ago, it's more than "women's lib" (we're being 'encoded' to break down old traditions and values of how men and women used to interact) it's also more than hunter/gatherer but i do think 'at least the old model actually worked' ..and "Nature" or "God" seems to have made it, nyah? ..just who are we to turn on it like some upstart teenage species and accuse it of holding out on us.. hmmm, this is starting to sound familiar

well, now i'll try to get to the point, eh? this is bigger than it appears on the surface...

"the divine marriage is the harmonious union of male and female polarities, we have to also achieve this within ourselves" ..it's also about the inner work a human does (the human condition) ..balancing those male/female polarities within themselves..

tinkering with that old model (male/female) is having HUGE effects in 'people' (society en mass) it's no great 'mystery' these days to see extensions, subsets of simply 'men and women' ..a shame i can't just come out and say what i really mean and point fingers where they belong..

i'll try to show you what i'm talking about now..


i'll also try to explain this part more in another post.
this is Katy Perry's mom and dad.. they are a perfect example of what i'm talking about. Katy Perry is a world famous singer whose songs go on to touch and inspire the lives of millions of impressionable young fans. (i worded it that way for a reason) ..when i asked my gal to describe these two people in words, (just by seeing them in photo's) she referred to the man as "a screaming queer" and the women as "a president's wife"

they are not a 'husband and wife' of our parents and grandparents generations... see where i'm going with this?

do you see what i mean by "balanced polarities" now? ..or in this case, proponents of the new-age beliefs in their attempt to re-balance their own inner male and female polarities.. she's a ball-breaker, he's a pussy.. you follow me? ..and who was their daughter again? (who was raised up in this) and then went on to deliver messages about equality and empowerment to millions of others..

the problem here- male and female "software" (emotions and logic) is hard-wired to the actual "hardware" (sexual organs) ...do you see where i'm going with this? ..what are the next steps in this progression of changing traditional male/female roles? ..what was i saying before about a new age flower language so i can sell all these changes to an unsuspecting public.. but before we get into that, i'll try to wrap this up..

polarity encoding understood in this way, gives insights into virtually -every- sphere of the human drama, that is to say traditional male / female interactions as we used to know them, up until recent times, when now, it's becoming much more overt; the push into trans humanism, trans-gender, etc (it's all about "going beyond" that supposedly limiting old male/female foundation)

it's -everywhere- ..you can even watch a movie like sylvester stallone's expendables pt.1 and recognise the encoding in that. it's funny because i haven't even described the mechanism (just alluded to it constantly) but i'm sure most of you already recognize it anyway, we even see cartoons like futurama make storylines on it and have funny little scenes where a boy has a robot girlfriend and it leads to social decay..

i'll try to explain this further in the next post since i just keep going in circles, it's fascinating.. i'll try to show how some of the other comments here (at this time) also give insights into what i'm describing

Originally posted by LastStarfighter

The only people deserving dehumanization are the ones who rape, kill, torture, or do not act like a human.

edit on 20-5-2013 by LastStarfighter because: spelling error

I don't think anyone "deserves" dehumanising. I think those that you mentioned have already been dehumanised, to an extent. A lot of them are mentally ill.

I'm not saying that their actions are acceptable. But I disagree with the notion that dehumanising the dehumanised will resolve anything.

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Although I agree with your overall sentiment, there are problems in our society regarding gender.

Misogyny is alive and well within our society but so is Misandry. And we don't talk about Misandry in our society as it's considered to be somehow sexist and the Modern Feminist movement has been twisted beyond being recognizable.

It's important that we discuss these issues, but not blame ourselves for the divisions, considering that they are mostly caused on purpose as a method of control.

~Tenth

Yeeeeea, here's to all the Misandry, yoohoo, let's do a Compare Shall we, just for fun!!!

Men, sold into sex slavery in India, Europe, Dubai, Asia, and Gang raped, snuffed out, beaten, every orafic hate and violence poured into with LIFELONG ,physical and mental permanent damage, HIV and STDs given to without a care, laughed at, beaten and told to say they like it, that they sub human, ignored, mocked, threatened for telling the truth IF they escape...in the THOUSANDS, yep, streets in Holland for example LINED up with windows Full of Men to rape and buy and the WOMEN are all lining up to buy them, Yes siren indeedy, that's MUSANDRY in action!

Men, brutally raoed and internal organs cut out, guns shoved in side them broken glass, metal, laughed at while tortured, for being a GENDER, not fighting a war, then forced to carry rape babies, and tossed out in streets to starve for beng damaged sex goods by the very MEN avowed to live, honor and cherish...CONGO, SIERRA LEONE, SOMALIA, SUDAN, but ESP CONGO, yep, these WOMEN in Paramili units Scouring the lands and mining Plotting the rapes, multilations of Million MEN, CONGO, YEP, they Sure are, those MISANDRISTS

Men, exploited and gang raped and tortured in film, magazines and images sold to Millions of MISANDRISTS world wide to masturbate to, Yes sir red indeedy, MISANDRISTS and their Porn Industry, why they even gather up kids, and have them gang raped by 200 men, oops, sorry women, and biggest seller in porn Industry film, an Asian girl, oops, I mean a man, and so that Millions of MISANDRIST white collar and blue collar girls clubs can wank off to and laugh, laugh at a Man boys HELL, Oh Yes, MISANDRISTS and their almighty POWER,

Men, all over border of Texas/Mexico, Central and South .america from ages of Three, raped, multilated and wow Tossed in fields after being branded WHORE or in DUMPSTERS who were abducted after OMG leaving Work, because hey hey don't ya now they were Asking for it!!! Cuzz that's what MISANDRISTS do, alright, to MILLIONS of MEN,

Men, all over this nation, beaten to DEATH by MISANDRIST WOMEN who then turn and Rape their kids and kill then for revenge, Yep, then in prison gang raoe each other, Yep, those MISANDRISTS, why Wes got to over throw these EEEEEEEEvvvvvviiiiiiillllll WOMEN

These Men are VICTIMS,

Men, all over the world, carrying those ten babies by forced pregnancies and forced to work in slave labor for no pay THEN are beaten up if they don't get those clots hard, oh yes sir, those MISANDRISTS and all that POLITICAL power over laws that RULE men that they have, keeping thousands upon thousands of Men poorer than dirt,

And then forcing those Poor Men to work the street corners,

Men, all over the industrialized world being economically forced I to debasing work that is destructive intimately and our Strip clubs are FULL of MEN HUMPING POLES like DOGS, yep, those Mean MISANDRISTS

Men, having to FIGHT for paid Viagra, ooops, no, think insurance already Pays for that, yep, nope, oh, that's it, those MISANDRISTS demanding a Man get a long ass probe up his butt when he wants to be sterilized, because dint he know that's what the MISANDRIST GODDESS MADE HIM FOR? :0

You are. Absolutely Right, why those OPPRESSED MEN

And those HORRIBLE WOMEN who OPPRESS THEM!!!

Rise up boys, demand your HUMANITY, OMG I just didn't KNOW how terrible it was until I typed it up and there's way more,

ALL I HAD TO DO IS REPLACE MISANDRISTS FOR MISOGYNISTS AND MEN IN PLACE OF WOMEN, like

WOW!

from page 1 (tenthpower)

Misogyny is alive and well within our society but so is Misandry. And we don't talk about Misandry in our society as it's considered to be somehow sexist and the Modern Feminist movement has been twisted beyond being recognizable. It's important that we discuss these issues, but not blame ourselves for the divisions, considering that they are mostly caused on purpose as a method of control.

everything there is true. the 'extremes' of the polarities (misogyny,misandry) even the spell-check doesn't recognise 'misandry' (so) you're exactly right, there is a huge mainly untold story in this area (and) yes the feminist movement was twisted/used to steer the direction of the change. we need to get this info out to more people. i'm glad to see a forum mod say something like "it's used for control"
i'm just going to the trouble of trying to actually explain it down to the minutia (i encountered this member in another topic about trans humanism) hello, are we on the same page after all?

there's a really good insight into the workings of misogyny in the special features of the Nightmare on Elm street part III (?) where freddy is a giant worm (ahem) eating a young girl.. watch it if you get a chance they come right out and admit to a LOT of things. i'm drawing attention to this because it's a good example of showing how again this leads back to movies (mass programming) and the people doing it know to an extent what they are doing..

i don't mean to spam this thread and i probably won't post again after this, but here's more of how we're all dealing with the same issue here (other peoples comments)

clairvoyantrose

You know, I'm actually perfectly fine playing the role of a woman in society. From the dawn of time it has been about man and woman. One cannot survive without the other. I think women are straying too far from the nest and maybe we have caused a bunch of problems. Men are the hunters, we are the gatherers. We are there to help, understand, love unconditionally and back our man 100%. If we all worked communally, life would be so much more fulfilling and us ladies wouldn't feel compelled to compete against man. I don't need to prove myself to anybody -- I just want to love and be loved.

a really deep and insightful comment. the 'support role' suggested is not about being inferior or subservient, in short: the man goes insane without the influence of the women. she's a conscience and nurturing, guiding role. we see this symbolism everywhere in the old tradition(s) eg: mother mary - what needs to be exposed is how women are being used as a scapegoat.


i don't want to waste your time but i would suggest to think about pictures in the MSM like this,

where (prominent) women are (prominently) being associated with negative things (you have to put this huge story together for yourself - if you're in forums reading topics like this, chasing up these leads then you're already on the investigation)

and it's all to do with upsetting the male/female balance and this is part of how they do it.
i was unable to get pics of rihanna that've been airbrushed to make her look like some kind of demon, pics where shakira has upside down crosses quickly flashed over her (subliminal messaging) ...all used to make women "evil" (sound familiar?)

as one comment pointed out, here ^ is another part of the encoding used (to disrupt male/female interactions) see what i was saying about all the devil imagery used, and 'scarlet women' ..is there something to this story or what?

here's another tangent of the master plan

this pic uses another celeb, the white horse is more complex and is probably discussed elsewhere (but just quickly, again, the CFR involvement, the symbolism of the white horse and why she's naked around it, an important thing to consider; access to jolie is controlled- the photo is staged for certain symbolic purposes), people should research the CFR and what it represents, why a celebrity might be a spokesperson for it.

this is not a new phenomena.

here is the divine feminine (a woman who balances her sun and moon correctly). the two pillars (representing the two polarities) ...it's the same story being encoded over and over, this time the info was hidden safely in tarot cards as symbolism.. for a man getting in touch with his divine feminine is what saves him (see all the heavy significance here, it's not coincidence)

well i've ranted on this for long enough now. i hope it means something to somebody and makes sense to them.
i've run out of space and haven't even got 1/3 into what i intended, hehe, but i went to a lot of trouble to put this together so just know i'm not yanking your chain.

balance your polarities. save yourself from the mad world system, etc

Will edit for typos later, maybe...as for dehumanizing people,

Face it, Women

WE aren't PEOPLE, WE Dick Socks,

A d Majority of women Enabled and gave Permission for this by Worshipping the very Ones who Hate us,

So, wome. Got their hater gods,

Now want to complain that they are being snuffed out...and NOT just the Whore Class (poor, women of color, etc)

Well, you helped it, now it's all yours, enjoy being snuffed out in a hostile Mans world, and Remember to tell your Daughters when THEY are snuffed out and they Will be,

That There was some women who Dared to stand up but they were demonized, ostracized and thrown to the wolves...so

Submit, subjugate, smile and remember, being a mindless empty shell of a dick sock ain't that bad, you Eventually die, until then

Well it's Rape Culture and all the rest of the hate, all to Male Power and GODman

OR you can get on the Eugenists Male wagon, hack off your breasts, go to Cornell University and they'll hack off the labia and other female parts (FGMs) like they do little girls Then

You'll be deemed HUMAN MAN too, and will Finally be considered a tad, tolerable. WOMEN CHOSE IT

So they might as well stop complaining about it.

reply to post by ThreeBears

look again at everything you typed. because those horrible things happen to men also does not diminish things..

the men are being used as proxy women in the first half of your opening statement (read what i'm saying again about the role of a women, and how a man WILL GO CRAZY without a woman) ...it's all there.. the second part of what you're saying... it's all about crazy men acting out (war, etc) - the OP covered that in the last few lines of the post.. it was a subtle revelation.. that's why i've gone to so much trouble to TRY and give an insight into what's happening on a large scale to men and women

think about what i've taken all this trouble to type to you and others who read this..... seriously,... your post was very vivid and angry.. the information in this topic should make a lot of sense to you if you'll just consider it..

..ok, i think i'm done here [edit] didn't see your last message at time of posting..
lol stop despairing.. (now) you've got an understanding of the actual POWER a woman has over a man.. all man.. any man... ... that's why women are turned into these dick hotels you refer to.. now you won't shave your head and become a ball buster and punish men

man: hi baby, wanna have sex?
woman: no
man: slut..

the man just wants to reclaim power.. you said it all

men are crazy without a woman (behind every man, there has to be a great woman, etc)
women must heal men.

ok well i'm just repeating myself now

Originally posted by CuriousAchilles

Originally posted by LastStarfighter

The only people deserving dehumanization are the ones who rape, kill, torture, or do not act like a human.

edit on 20-5-2013 by LastStarfighter because: spelling error

I don't think anyone "deserves" dehumanising. I think those that you mentioned have already been dehumanised, to an extent. A lot of them are mentally ill.

I'm not saying that their actions are acceptable. But I disagree with the notion that dehumanising the dehumanised will resolve anything.

"An eye for an eye will leave the whole world blind." ~ Mahatma Gandhi

Mental illness is often used as an excuse for evil. I don't buy. Its only for a small percent of the evil acts. Conversely, there is currently a problem with treating animals as if they were humans. Treating a murderer as if though he is a human puts others at risk. Thats why we cage them like animals, so they don't kill other people.

REgarding rape, if you had a daugter who was rapped, would you not want to cage the man doing it so he couldn't do it to others. Thats why we treat these people like animals and have them register themselves.



Regarding pagan beleif in an eye for an eye, I dont subscribe to it. Making friends with evil doesn't work well for me too though. And no, these people don't feel dehumanized. Look up Ted Bundy, smiling all the way to the death.

Originally posted by littled16
reply to post by smyleegrl

 

Can we still make dehumanizing posts about politicians? They may not all start out as evil, but I'm pretty sure the majority of them end up that way!

Could say the same thing about everyone................

reply to post by clairvoyantrose

love unconditionally and back our man 100%.

I have conditions...lot's of conditions!

reply to post by tothetenthpower

It's important that we discuss these issues, but not blame ourselves for the divisions, considering that they are mostly caused on purpose as a method of control.

No. It's important that we blame ourselves each and every day. We are the only one's here.

Who is causing these things on purpose?

Right now it is precisely our inability to 'blame' ourselves that is keeping things exactly the way they are; same as it ever was...



That's the meaning of the Prayer of The Heart...

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, the sinner."

reply to post by littled16


You could say the same thing about women. I'm sure we've all heard the stories about money-hungry leeches that latch onto up-and-coming young men, drain them for everything they've got, and slip off into the waters just as he's taking his last breath. Women who enjoy a lavish lifestyle but wander like butterflies, women with deep seated emotional issues and self-imposed delusions regarding the world. Or maybe they just don't care about the world anymore. Getting kicked like a dog enough times can do it to anyone.

Eat or be eaten. That's how a lot of women are these days. And the only reason I'm specifying a gender is because while not everyone is fair with their allegations, there's a reason a lot of it gets slapped on the fairer half of our species.

reply to post by ThreeBears

Face it, Women

WE aren't PEOPLE, WE Dick Socks,

A d Majority of women Enabled and gave Permission for this by Worshipping the very Ones who Hate us,

So, wome. Got their hater gods,

Now want to complain that they are being snuffed out...and NOT just the Whore Class (poor, women of color, etc)

Well, you helped it, now it's all yours, enjoy being snuffed out in a hostile Mans world, and Remember to tell your Daughters when THEY are snuffed out and they Will be,

That There was some women who Dared to stand up but they were demonized, ostracized and thrown to the wolves...so

Submit, subjugate, smile and remember, being a mindless empty shell of a dick sock ain't that bad, you Eventually die, until then

Well it's Rape Culture and all the rest of the hate, all to Male Power and GODman

OR you can get on the Eugenists Male wagon, hack off your breasts, go to Cornell University and they'll hack off the labia and other female parts (FGMs) like they do little girls Then

You'll be deemed HUMAN MAN too, and will Finally be considered a tad, tolerable. WOMEN CHOSE IT

So they might as well stop complaining about it.

Wow. As an upstanding and good-mannered male, I resent that post. In no way have you even come close to recognizing the respect true men hold for women. We respect women in a way that transcends touch and sight, because we recognize that women are the emotional rock that we hold onto even when we can barely draw the breath to deny our feelings. When we get tired of being strong, that's when they step in. When we can't take another step, that's when they carry us. Women are everything we're not, so when everything we are isn't enough, they can make up for it.

That's the beauty of the woman. Not for how they serve us, but for how they complete us.

reply to post by littled16


You could say the same thing about women. I'm sure we've all heard the stories about money-hungry leeches that latch onto up-and-coming young men, drain them for everything they've got, and slip off into the waters just as he's taking his last breath. Women who enjoy a lavish lifestyle but wander like butterflies, women with deep seated emotional issues and self-imposed delusions regarding the world. Or maybe they just don't care about the world anymore. Getting kicked like a dog enough times can do it to anyone.

Eat or be eaten. That's how a lot of women are these days. And the only reason I'm specifying a gender is because while not everyone is fair with their allegations, there's a reason a lot of it gets slapped on the fairer half of our species.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


While I agree some women are mercenary, I would argue it's not a trait women alone possess. After all, how many stories are there of middle aged men who dump their wives and get the trophy, 10+ bombshell wife?

The point I'm trying to make is that we should move past these gross generalizations and judge people on their individual merits.

reply to post by smyleegrl


I'm well aware of this.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by littled16

 

You could say the same thing about women. I'm sure we've all heard the stories about money-hungry leeches that latch onto up-and-coming young men, drain them for everything they've got, and slip off into the waters just as he's taking his last breath. Women who enjoy a lavish lifestyle but wander like butterflies, women with deep seated emotional issues and self-imposed delusions regarding the world. Or maybe they just don't care about the world anymore. Getting kicked like a dog enough times can do it to anyone.

Eat or be eaten. That's how a lot of women are these days. And the only reason I'm specifying a gender is because while not everyone is fair with their allegations, there's a reason a lot of it gets slapped on the fairer half of our species.

You do remember that I'm a woman, right? And Mr. littled16 would be the first to inform you that I am nothing like anything you have described, even remotely, and neither are any of the women I choose to associate myself with- and neither are our daughters.

I can agree that there are women such as you describe, and also men such as you describe, but they are not the majority. If that is the type of woman that is prevalent in your life I would say that there is something about the particular type that you are attracted to- whether you realize it or not. Might I suggest you broaden your pool and select potential mates from a type of woman you wouldn't normally give the time of day to? While not always initially as physically attractive as a "high maintenance" type woman you will find that they more than make up for it in every way imaginable- and they can always get a makeover. While the outer shell initially attracts people to each other the inner contents are what forms a wonderful lasting relationship.

reply to post by littled16


Why does everybody assume I'm talking about them personally?

1. I know you're a female. You were not in mind when I typed that post.

2. If you feel you were in mind, maybe you have a conscience after all.

3. Just because you don't do it, doesn't mean other women have the same scruples. Those are the ones I'm talking about.