Does any one on Ats have a chance of Ascending?

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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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Its a typo of course.




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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No.

When you die you just return to the earth as dust. It's a cycle of life.

You're born, you live, you die, the end.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by mwood
When you die you just return to the earth as dust. It's a cycle of life.

You're born, you live, you die, the end.
And you are basing this on having fully inspected this matter directly and altogether? And if so, please elaborate on how you came to this as your firm conclusion about life. Thank you.

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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
Does any one on Ats have a chance of Ascending? I pose this question in all seriousness considering that this is one of the nets leading seek the truth site.
How many of us on Ats will travel through the spirals and mazes of subterfuge and false leads to find the true light in the forrest that leads us to the real truth?

Personally i dont think i have met anyone on here who is close to ascending anywhere other than to another another truth or conspiracy site, or down to the road to pick up some fries and burgers.

What about you, have you met any real canididates for ascension?


if you haven't realised by now that 9/11 was a media fakery extravaganza with very
few if any real deaths, then no, you have no little chance of ascending (but every
chance of ass-ending!).



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:06 PM
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Ascension is a COUNTERFEIT...

Satan copies EVERYTHING God does.

The ascension agenda promotes the idea that the "alien" species (Satan’s counterfeits for angels) will return and help us through the upcoming period of ascension.

We all magically "evolve" into light-beings.

Wherever there is a counterfeit, there is ALWAYS a genuine as well.

Because most people will fall for the counterfeit, very FEW will find the real thing.

Bottom line is that VERY few make it to Heaven:


On August 3, 1979, Howard Pittman, a Baptist minister for 35 years, died while on the operating table during surgery and had a near-death experience.

Instead of allowing me to enter, the angel stationed me before the Gates, slightly to one side. He instructed me to stay there and watch as the saints were permitted to enter into Heaven. This point was so important that the Holy Spirit told me Himself. I watched the fifty saints enter Heaven, but the point I missed was the time frame involved.

It was explained to me that at the same time those fifty saints died on Earth, 1,950 other humans also died; or only 50 out of 2000 made it into Heaven. That other 1,950 were not there. Where were they? That was only 2 ½ percent going to Heaven! Ninety seven point five percent did not make it! Is that representative of the entire world today? If so, 97 ½ percent of the population of this world today is not ready to meet God.
Placebo by Howard Pittman

Christians in Hell

The two angels escorted me to Hell. I then saw many pastors, elders, and deacons in Hell. I asked the angel, “I know them. They had served God faithfully while on the Earth. They had died some time ago. We all had thought they were in Heaven with God. But now, I see them all in Hell and they are crying out that it is so hot! Why are they here?” There were so many pastors, elders, deacons and all other lay believers.

The angel answered, “Pastor Park Yong Gyu, a person can appear to be a true follower of Christ on the outside but God knows the heart.

There are multitudes of churches on the Earth and many of the churches are filled with many people. However, most of them are not true Christians. They are but church attendants. The true churches will firmly believe in Heaven and a Hell. The lives of many Christians are in chaos because they do not firmly believe in Heaven and Hell. When one soul enters Heaven, one thousand cursed souls enter Hell. The rate of Heaven and Hell is 1 to 1000.” (Matt 7:14)

Heaven & Hell 1000 to 1

Bishop Wilfred Lai is the founder and senior Pastor of Jesus Celebration Center in Mombasa, Kenya and it is a church of over 15,000 members. One day he asked the Lord how many of them were ready for heaven and the Lord told him only 200. Only 1% of that church is going to heaven! Dr. Lai said that some pastors have created large groups of sinners meeting in the name of God. “What you have are not churches, but large congregations of sinners.”

Message from Pastor Wilfred Lai

Jesus explained, “Sesame! In order for someone to be saved, they must believe and receive me sincerely deep into their hearts, but most importantly it is crucial to have a sincere heart and mind. Many who have received me end up in hell, because during the prayer of confession they simply recited the prayer without sincerity!”

Jesus also said, “Many profess they have accepted and proclaimed me into their hearts, and with their mouths believe that they are saved, since they’ve believed in me for a long time, but, it is not the length of time that determines your salvation. It is the process of bearing fruits in your character that leads you closer to attaining salvation.

Many believe blindly the incorrect teaching that simply reciting with their mouths will guarantee their salvation -- and are under an illusion that they will go to heaven. Salvation should be realized through fear and trembling and each individual must grow in sincere faith.” Jesus is heartbroken and frustrated that so many souls end up in hell because they believed erroneously.

Baptize by Blazing Fire



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:23 PM
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Of course, what you are saying is that your own little personal horror movie character is not decieving you...

Å99



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by akushla99
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Of course, what you are saying is that your own little personal horror movie character is not decieving you...Å99


And believe me whatever you think your are ascending to is going "boink" into that reality (YOURS ALONE) that you manifiested as its your god/demon/savior/pastoral/garden vision, no one elses very private and deeply personified; all connected to your souls progression. I hear you are only in recovery for your last past life (afterlife for a short while); then the process begins all over again; being born again. Not on Earth anymore, no room left for even the old souls.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by deadeyedick
1. recognize that you are only here in the flesh because your spirit is in debt
2. work out your suffering with your soul. most punishment fulfillment is sexual
3. once your debt is paid you can start to expand your mind with lucid dreaming and trances
4 if you reach that point you will be givin a choice to stay and help others pay their debt or face the sting of death and ascend. The only way to ascend without death is to wait on the arc and they can separate the two spirits attached to you that you have been raising


1. Would be karma
2. Punishment fulfillment is sexual? As in you are a Monk or a Nun and disallowed the carnal, or have a problem with carnal knoweledge either way it pays out; too much or abhorrance of.
3. I really dont think there are debts at all, its imaginary and so the lucid dreaming and trances would begin earlier without any fanfare.
4. Was this the arguement, ascending without death? The only way this is possible is through out of body experience. What spirits are attached exactly that have to be separated and you unknowingly are raising?



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Murgatroid
 


Of course, what you are saying is that your own little personal horror movie character is not decieving you...Å99


And believe me whatever you think your are ascending to is going "boink" into that reality (YOURS ALONE) that you manifiested as its your god/demon/savior/pastoral/garden vision, no one elses very private and deeply personified; all connected to your souls progression. I hear you are only in recovery for your last past life (afterlife for a short while); then the process begins all over again; being born again. Not on Earth anymore, no room left for even the old souls.


That's the specialty of origami of the mind...save me if I am folding into a monster, brother/sister...I've been negotiating the solid these couple of weeks...great to see my 'family'...some are content to remain in cycling stasis (oxymoronic?!)...new...washed, clean, refurbished, reconditioned program...no need to make more parts...just re-purpose...

Å99



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:04 PM
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Pure energy does not die, it gets recycled.


Energy is the capacity to perform work. The only work we'll be capable of after death will be the breakdown of the body into dust.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by LesMisanthrope

Energy is the capacity to perform work. The only work we'll be capable of after death will be the breakdown of the body into dust.



So goes the dogma of science.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by olaru12
 


Its a typo of course.



The "Ascended Ones" know the value of spell check and use it to avoid looking like one of the "unAscended"
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Murgatroid
 


Of course, what you are saying is that your own little personal horror movie character is not decieving you...Å99


And believe me whatever you think your are ascending to is going "boink" into that reality (YOURS ALONE) that you manifiested as its your god/demon/savior/pastoral/garden vision, no one elses very private and deeply personified; all connected to your souls progression. I hear you are only in recovery for your last past life (afterlife for a short while); then the process begins all over again; being born again. Not on Earth anymore, no room left for even the old souls.


That's the specialty of origami of the mind...save me if I am folding into a monster, brother/sister...I've been negotiating the solid these couple of weeks...great to see my 'family'...some are content to remain in cycling stasis (oxymoronic?!)...new...washed, clean, refurbished, reconditioned program...no need to make more parts...just re-purpose...Å99


I know what you are expressing. Ive been negotiating with family members as to our roles and who moves on as a unit, weve been doing this for eons, (not me first timer as human guess was to be a director of the play of sorts something Shakespearian). You can do nothing regards the others, they have to recycle, (but where) you would think, theyd have learned by now--nOt. More parts do not mean make any more copies BTW static sculptures that could have sentience, maybe as afterthought.
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by akushla99

Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by akushla99
reply to post by Murgatroid
 


Of course, what you are saying is that your own little personal horror movie character is not decieving you...Å99


And believe me whatever you think your are ascending to is going "boink" into that reality (YOURS ALONE) that you manifiested as its your god/demon/savior/pastoral/garden vision, no one elses very private and deeply personified; all connected to your souls progression. I hear you are only in recovery for your last past life (afterlife for a short while); then the process begins all over again; being born again. Not on Earth anymore, no room left for even the old souls.


That's the specialty of origami of the mind...save me if I am folding into a monster, brother/sister...I've been negotiating the solid these couple of weeks...great to see my 'family'...some are content to remain in cycling stasis (oxymoronic?!)...new...washed, clean, refurbished, reconditioned program...no need to make more parts...just re-purpose...Å99


I know what you are expressing. Ive been negotiating with family members as to our roles and who moves on as a unit, weve been doing this for eons, (not me first timer as human guess was to be a director of the play of sorts something Shakespearian). You can do nothing regards the others, they have to recycle, (but where) you would think, theyd have learned by now--nOt. More parts do not mean make any more copies BTW static sculptures that could have sentience, maybe as afterthought.
edit on 20-5-2013 by vethumanbeing because: (no reason given)


No...no more copies...well!...hopefully no mad scientists will achieve the unthinkable drone/borg empty vessel...zombiegeddon, here we come...luckily, there are sticks being put in spokes...downside - 'it can't be done'...without expert help/hindrance, and we have Little Golden Books to write...

Å99



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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So goes the dogma of science.


So goes the dogma of experience and life.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by akushla99
Originally posted by vethumanbeing


akushla99
No...no more copies...well!...hopefully no mad scientists will achieve the unthinkable drone/borg empty vessel...zombiegeddon, here we come...luckily, there are sticks being put in spokes...downside - 'it can't be done'...without expert help/hindrance, and we have Little Golden Books to write...Å99


Were are not done; everything above 3d is possible, Copies gallore family infighting, fingerpointing...there is much to be looked forward to. Heres one, "why not meet first, instead of backwards set motions" and meet late wherein ineffectual. God decides not to meet its constituants, is this not what its all about, its perpetual ducking from its own creation (HIDE and SEEK). Both attitudes are repellent, and need explaination. FAITH and GRACE in NON-BELIEVERSHIP is as though going to a Used Car Lot and asking for the worst pre-owned car on the lot. I would be told it was the Ferrari in the back up on blocks, 250.00 bucks buys it. God comes cheap for some NOT FOR ME I earned it as I have an understanding of it.
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by vethumanbeing

Originally posted by deadeyedick
1. recognize that you are only here in the flesh because your spirit is in debt
2. work out your suffering with your soul. most punishment fulfillment is sexual
3. once your debt is paid you can start to expand your mind with lucid dreaming and trances
4 if you reach that point you will be givin a choice to stay and help others pay their debt or face the sting of death and ascend. The only way to ascend without death is to wait on the arc and they can separate the two spirits attached to you that you have been raising


1. Would be karma
2. Punishment fulfillment is sexual? As in you are a Monk or a Nun and disallowed the carnal, or have a problem with carnal knoweledge either way it pays out; too much or abhorrance of.
3. I really dont think there are debts at all, its imaginary and so the lucid dreaming and trances would begin earlier without any fanfare.
4. Was this the arguement, ascending without death? The only way this is possible is through out of body experience. What spirits are attached exactly that have to be separated and you unknowingly are raising?
Think of it as karma that follows you through all your different lives and all the point is to die with a positive balance of karma.

Different levels of suffering depending on your amount of debt. A monk or a nun would have no way to pay their debt without defiling the church. That is why they should not have a negative debt.

If you are able to lucid dream then you probably not in debt.

Some call them ego and self others just good and bad nature and others view them as male and female.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 10:33 PM
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I would have to say each and everyone one of us...

Regardless of what you've done... All will be saved!

Though not everyone will be happy with the end result




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 11:37 PM
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Really if you are one of the “chosen” then I would rather not ascend. Thanks but leave me behind.

That goes double for the people who are selected for the rapture. Don’t rapture me please!

Pass that on to your "god".



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 11:42 PM
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No ascension or descending for me.

I am just going to hang around and do the Limbo Rock.







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