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Originally posted by flobot
reply to post by Cuervo
Are conservatives racist by their nature? No. Not at all. People who are racist are certainly drawn to conservative principles because most of those people are either religious or southern but that only implies a correlation, not a cause. This paints an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism as a whole.
I agree 100% with the first part of this. Conservative ideologies attract racists because they can be used to excuse/justify their intentions. This by no means that Conservative ideology is racist in itself or that every Conservative is racist.
However, I disagree a little with your last statement that it is an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism. And the only reason I disagree with that is because of the replies you see in this thread. Conservatives would rather defend the racists that share an ideology with them instead of calling them out and condemning them. So they have created the reputation they have themselves by sheltering and not calling out the racists in their party and by championing their causes.
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by flobot
reply to post by Cuervo
Are conservatives racist by their nature? No. Not at all. People who are racist are certainly drawn to conservative principles because most of those people are either religious or southern but that only implies a correlation, not a cause. This paints an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism as a whole.
I agree 100% with the first part of this. Conservative ideologies attract racists because they can be used to excuse/justify their intentions. This by no means that Conservative ideology is racist in itself or that every Conservative is racist.
However, I disagree a little with your last statement that it is an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism. And the only reason I disagree with that is because of the replies you see in this thread. Conservatives would rather defend the racists that share an ideology with them instead of calling them out and condemning them. So they have created the reputation they have themselves by sheltering and not calling out the racists in their party and by championing their causes.
You will find the majority of racists are on the left, not the right. Using your logic I could easily say, two men go into McDonald's and eat a hamburger. One comes out and rapes and kills the woman that lives next door. The other is a teacher. Both are murderers because everyone who likes McDonald's is a murderer because McDonald's is a place for murderers. See how foolish that is.
edit on 20-5-2013 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)
You will find the majority of racists are on the left, not the right. Using your logic I could easily say, two men go into McDonald's and eat a hamburger. One comes out and rapes and kills the woman that lives next door. The other is a teacher. Both are murderers because everyone who likes McDonald's is a murderer because McDonald's is a place for murderers. See how foolish that is.
Originally posted by Fromabove
You will find the majority of racists are on the left, not the right. Using your logic I could easily say, two men go into McDonald's and eat a hamburger. One comes out and rapes and kills the woman that lives next door. The other is a teacher. Both are murderers because everyone who likes McDonald's is a murderer because McDonald's is a place for murderers. See how foolish that is.
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by Fromabove
Originally posted by flobot
reply to post by Cuervo
Are conservatives racist by their nature? No. Not at all. People who are racist are certainly drawn to conservative principles because most of those people are either religious or southern but that only implies a correlation, not a cause. This paints an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism as a whole.
I agree 100% with the first part of this. Conservative ideologies attract racists because they can be used to excuse/justify their intentions. This by no means that Conservative ideology is racist in itself or that every Conservative is racist.
However, I disagree a little with your last statement that it is an inaccurate and unfair view of conservatism. And the only reason I disagree with that is because of the replies you see in this thread. Conservatives would rather defend the racists that share an ideology with them instead of calling them out and condemning them. So they have created the reputation they have themselves by sheltering and not calling out the racists in their party and by championing their causes.
You will find the majority of racists are on the left, not the right. Using your logic I could easily say, two men go into McDonald's and eat a hamburger. One comes out and rapes and kills the woman that lives next door. The other is a teacher. Both are murderers because everyone who likes McDonald's is a murderer because McDonald's is a place for murderers. See how foolish that is.
edit on 20-5-2013 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)
I don't even...
What?! Are you saying that rapists and teachers who are conservative are being called racists because they are conservative? Because, if so, that's a really messed up way to say that. Also, that's what he and I were both saying, too. And how there is a correlation. We just didn't accuse them of raping their neighbors...
Originally posted by Fromabove
The point is, most of what the lefties say is gibberish and non coherent.edit on 20-5-2013 by Fromabove because: (no reason given)
You will find the majority of racists are on the left, not the right. Using your logic I could easily say, two men go into McDonald's and eat a hamburger. One comes out and rapes and kills the woman that lives next door. The other is a teacher. Both are murderers because everyone who likes McDonald's is a murderer because McDonald's is a place for murderers. See how foolish that is.
So history is wrong because neo96 on ATS says so? Please researche Southern Democrats and the Sothern Strategy.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by flobot
So history is wrong because neo96 on ATS says so? Please researche Southern Democrats and the Sothern Strategy.
Never said the history was wrong the part switching side is after all the party that is obsessed with race is still the Democratic party.
So much that they created the hypenated American moniker, and never shuts up about it.
Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags
"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden, in a private remark to an Indian-American man caught on C-SPAN, June, 2006 (
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by flobot
SENATOR ROBERT BYRD
Democrat KKK grand wizard.
They did not switch sides they did not all go to the right they are as racist as they have ever been.
BILL CLINTON
Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags
www.weeklystandard.com...
BIDEN:
"You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent.... I'm not joking." --Joe Biden, in a private remark to an Indian-American man caught on C-SPAN, June, 2006 (
politicalhumor.about.com...
Democrat remark about sending Haley 'back where she came from'.
www.newsindia-times.com...edit on 20-5-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
There are, bigoted folks on both sides. There are even some that are truly racist; as per your example of Byrd.
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Really? Are you seriously trying to push this line of bs?
You are SO far out there....and out of touch.
Stop listening to Beck and Fox News. Get a grip!!!
:shk:
Many early progresssives advocated eugenics, or human engineering, to purge society's gene pool of undesirable traits. In Looking Backward, socialist author Edward Bellamy mused about “race purification,” a fantasy shared by many utopian novelists. Indiana's state government in 1907 became the first in the modern world to codify eugenic principles, and more than two dozen additional American states soon followed suit. These states did not dictate the coupling of ideal mates, which could be called “positive eugenics.” Rather, they advocated “negative eugenics” – i.e., the sterilization of those harboring undesirable genetic makeups, precisely as Bellamy had advocated.
Eugenics was wholly compatible with the progressive era's faith in science, the future, the regulatory potential of the state, and human perfectibility. The Rockefeller Foundation and the Carnegie Institution helped bankroll organizations that sought to advance eugenics. Among the more notable progressives to embrace the practice were the anarco-communist Emma Goldman, NAACP founder W.E.B. Dubois, author H.G. Wells, political scientist Harold Laski, socialist reformers Sidney and Beatrice Webb, biology instructor/atheist Edward Aveling, economist John Maynard Keynes, playwright George Bernard Shaw, World Wildlife Fund founder Julian Huxley, sex theorist Havelock Ellis, and Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. Sanger, taking issue with the Church's view that eugenics was immoral because the souls of all people were equally valuable in the eyes of God, said:
‘"Civil rights’ doesn’t mean anything without a right to life!" declared Hunter. He and the other marchers were protesting the disproportionately high number of abortions in the black community. The high number is no accident. Many Americans–black and white–are unaware of Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger’s Negro Project. Sanger created this program in 1939, after the organization changed its name from the American Birth Control League (ABCL) to the Birth Control Federation of America (BCFA).
Originally posted by flobot
The fact remains that Conservative ideologies are more attractive towards racists than Liberal ideologies. That is what the article very nicely points out and lays it out pretty clearly.
Originally posted by Metallicus
Originally posted by muse7
The parties switched sides about 40 years ago.
I bet if you ask a nazi skinhead which party he's most likely to vote for, I'm 99.9% certain that he would vote for a Republican that favors "states rights" over a democrat.
Actually Nazis are socialists just like Obama and democrats. Nazis are also fascists that favor a strong, centralized government and would never support states rights. Of course being a Obama supporter I imagine it is easy to ignore facts and not allow them to get in the way of your partisan politics.
Originally posted by mandella1099
Originally posted by Metallicus
Originally posted by muse7
The parties switched sides about 40 years ago.
I bet if you ask a nazi skinhead which party he's most likely to vote for, I'm 99.9% certain that he would vote for a Republican that favors "states rights" over a democrat.
Actually Nazis are socialists just like Obama and democrats. Nazis are also fascists that favor a strong, centralized government and would never support states rights. Of course being a Obama supporter I imagine it is easy to ignore facts and not allow them to get in the way of your partisan politics.
Don't forget as well that Nazis supported the infusion of government and big business, confiscation of all personal weapons, exclusion of anyone that didn't think exactly like them and accept their politics and beliefs as the one true party, etc, etc, etc....
Anything sound familiar?
Given that, can you tell me what facts point out that the "conservative" ideology" is more "attractive" for "racists"?
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by mandella1099
Originally posted by Metallicus
Originally posted by muse7
The parties switched sides about 40 years ago.
I bet if you ask a nazi skinhead which party he's most likely to vote for, I'm 99.9% certain that he would vote for a Republican that favors "states rights" over a democrat.
Actually Nazis are socialists just like Obama and democrats. Nazis are also fascists that favor a strong, centralized government and would never support states rights. Of course being a Obama supporter I imagine it is easy to ignore facts and not allow them to get in the way of your partisan politics.
Don't forget as well that Nazis supported the infusion of government and big business, confiscation of all personal weapons, exclusion of anyone that didn't think exactly like them and accept their politics and beliefs as the one true party, etc, etc, etc....
Anything sound familiar?
The US imposed that upon Germany as a result of the first world war. That was us, not Hitler.
Originally posted by Spiramirabilis
reply to post by Robonakka
You seem to have fallen into that same trap I was alluding to earlier. You seem to think that we are all created equal. It is obvious we are not. It is true that not all blacks are uncivilized. Some are good, decent people. But even the good ones are mentally slow and quick to be offended over trivial matters. You must open your eyes to what happens when you treat them as equals. Look at Detroit. Look at any inner city. Look at Africa. Put away your excuses and see what they do when given power and a chance. If that is not something you're willing to embrace then do away with your silly notions of equality.
It is like fruit in a sewer. Sure, the fruit is still edible, but do you want to save it or just go ahead and flush the sewage away? You see the apples and oranges and think it is a fruit salad. I see it is just sewage to be flushed away. The fruit is the good people. The fecal matter is the gang banging thugs. You mix them and what do you have? Fruit salad or more sewage?
We have tried for over 150 years to assimilate them and have gotten 40,000 rapes a year, 80,000 murders, and uncounted robberies and assaults. And you still think there is something to save? And you think conservatives are so stupid as to not see what is going on? It is not racist to understand that not all are equal, playing fair is not always a good thing, and that some people will never act contrary to their nature and expecting them to is stupid. It is realist. Conservatives are realists who see the truth and do not lie about it in order to save people's feelings. At least most of them are. Probably not you.
Wow - quoted for posterity
You really bring the OP to life - good you showed up
How many here will claim you - and how many will call you on your crap?