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Racism and the American Right

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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

It has been conservatives that have focused on my character and not just "assumed" I thought a certain way just because of the melanin content of my skin.


I hear the same complaint from a friend of mine from the south. He's white with a southern accent and people are always stunned when he fearlessly announces his support of marriage equality and his thoughts on taxing big corporations.




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by SLAYER69


I want to thank everybody for staying on topic and being civil as we dissect the work done by Robert Parry.




Sneaky bad, buddy! I got a warning earlier, though I guess you knew that was likely.


Just wanted to add, as someone who isn't white, it has been people that are more "progressive" that have always been either condenscending, or downright derogatory towards me.

It has been conservatives that have focused on my character and not just "assumed" I thought a certain way just because of the melanin content of my skin.


I always reflect on my military experiences because it was a big part of my formative years. I miss the camaraderie and the almost complete lack of bias; there was no black, white, brown, yellow; there was no Christian, Muslim, Jewish; there was no male or female; no Republican or Democrat. There were only Marines…and we judged each other by our character, our motivation level, the stripes on our sleeves, and the metals on our chests.

I miss that.


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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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I miss being green also.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:38 PM
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When I told my parents that I supported gay marriage, they about flipped!




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:47 PM
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It's become taboo in America to say to don't like another race. America likes to pride itself on the belief that it is a multicultralistic society. People like to say how can you stereo type and dislike a whole race? I stereotype based on my own observations. I don't preach hate and I'm not a hate monger by any means. I'm surrounded by other races in my neighborhood. I deal with them all the time. I don't like them we are not the same culturally.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:56 PM
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Great thread subject Slayer.

The right and left is pretty well defined in that quote you provided also..left is pro governmental institutions for betterment of society and the right is anti-government get out of my business type. On surface value, you don't want a politician mucking around with your personal life, but the left doesn't aim for that..its more of a integration and building thing for society, not a control what a individual is doing.
Yes, without the left wing ideology, there would still be segregation and all sorts (although in the past, the muddled history of racism transcended both parties. Actually the initial republicans..the Lincoln republicans, were the new fresh minded trendsetters and the dems were a bit backwards...but that is over 100 years ago..things change, to the point of flipping).


As far as modern day partys regarding racism
The right is not racist..however, I have noted most (white) racists are in fact republicans. They feel it -should- be the racist party, or the party that is close enough..neither side is in its nature racist mind you, but republicans do like the don't tell me who I can hire attitude (some for legit reasons, some because they don't want anything darker than a coffee with cream color around them regardless of qualifications).
edit on 20-5-2013 by SaturnFX because: whats a mater?



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Cuervo
 




When I told my parents that I supported gay marriage, they about flipped!


-slaps you then rips the neocon emblem from you and tosses it down-

You have disgraced the social conservative movement! You...communist!



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
there was no male or female; no Republican or Democrat. There were only Marines


Curious (actually curious) about your stances then on 2 things:

Women in front line combat
Coed showers and the like in the military.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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You know these socialist "shills" give themselves away when ever they use there buzz phrases," hysterical Tea Partiers" and "first AFRICAN American president". This is all they have when they can't argue facts or truth, the hate comes out for anyone that disagrees with them and the Marxist book of rules comes out and the hate and lies abound.

If you disagree with our AFRICAN American president you are a racist, if you disagree with the liberal socialist you are hysterical or a conspiracy person and can not be trusted. How long does this "look into my eyes " BS go on before people start recalling and impeaching these corrupt bottom feeders??............or are we all afraid like Limbaugh and the rest of the talk show shills would have you believe.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by SLAYER69
 
You know these socialist "shills" give themselves away when ever they use there buzz phrases,"


Considering every single governmental form requires some degree of socialism to function as a society, what is the cut off point between a social based capitalist system and a socialism? Is it a specific tax percent or something? (like 33% is capitalism, 34% is socialism)



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:14 PM
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If you disagree with our AFRICAN American president you are a racist, if you disagree with the liberal socialist you are hysterical or a conspiracy person and can not be trusted. How long does this "look into my eyes " BS go on before people start recalling and impeaching these corrupt bottom feeders??............or are we all afraid like Limbaugh and the rest of the talk show shills would have you believe.

Exactly.
The corrupt 'bottom feeders' need to go.

As far as 'Limbaugh' - he's a monstrosity. Likewise Jones, Beck, etc.

But, like I said, I don't know who or what to believe......
and have no faith in ANY of them now!!!

Gonna go watch Colbert. At least he (and Stewart) have their acts together!
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:34 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by SLAYER69
 
You know these socialist "shills" give themselves away when ever they use there buzz phrases,"


Considering every single governmental form requires some degree of socialism to function as a society, what is the cut off point between a social based capitalist system and a socialism? Is it a specific tax percent or something? (like 33% is capitalism, 34% is socialism)
WOW, you sure spun what I said into the outer limits.................I have no idea what you are saying, I would guess that you are implying that there is socialism in all phases of government , I see your point but it has nothing to do with my post and I think you know that.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:45 PM
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I think you are confusing the party labels with political ideology. The "Republicans" that ended slaver were at the time Leftist...it was actually this act that changed everything and the Right took over the "Republican" party and the Left became "Democrats".


Really? Are you seriously trying to push this line of bs? Liberals never stop trying to take credit for what real Liberty minded Republicans did and pretend that Progressives didn't really embrace Hitler and Mussolini....



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:46 PM
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Some of this has been discussed before in other threads. I don't think it was this author's article - but the ideas he espouses are not new.

The whole 2nd amendment / slavery / Madison & Henry thing was discussed in this thread..
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think you even commented in thread that just after I did..

...and I hit enter too soon.


Anyway - I'm assuming you have your reasons for walking on this ground again. It is certainly a topic of hard opinions as this thread shows.

I posted my views on the 2nd in the thread linked above.

What I think in general? Looks like the author has a book he's trying sell. If the article is a decent preview of the book then it seems to be same general type of political mud-slinging that sells well these days. Its just a different point of view than one written by say Anne Coulter.








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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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I remember the thread now.
I'm surprised that one didn't get the attention it deserved.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Battleline

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by SLAYER69
 
You know these socialist "shills" give themselves away when ever they use there buzz phrases,"


Considering every single governmental form requires some degree of socialism to function as a society, what is the cut off point between a social based capitalist system and a socialism? Is it a specific tax percent or something? (like 33% is capitalism, 34% is socialism)
WOW, you sure spun what I said into the outer limits.................I have no idea what you are saying, I would guess that you are implying that there is socialism in all phases of government , I see your point but it has nothing to do with my post and I think you know that.


I wasn't addressing the greater point you were making..not yet anyhow. I was just questioning what you personally believe seperates a social based capitalism to a socialism...its one hell of a gray area.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:59 PM
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The fact is most Republicans are not racist.....but all racists currently are Republicans.


Look up King Samir Shabazz, and try to say that again.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Frogs
 


I remember the thread now.
I'm surprised that one didn't get the attention it deserved.


I honestly thought that one would get more legs too. But, its one of those ATS mysteries - time of day, subject, wording, thread author (and the amount of activity thereof) all can factor into how much traction a thread gets.

At the time of the one I linked (Jan 2013) Obama was about to be inaugurated and ATS was full of threads from disgruntled right wingers, left wingers rubbing salt in wounds or offering to "help", various discussions of how the right (or left) was truly just plain evil (much like this article).

So, at the time that thread was just one of the many, "Hey look how evil the right wing is!!" threads of the week that were going around at the time I guess.

edit on 20-5-2013 by Frogs because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:05 PM
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NIce to see you back Slayer! That being said, I find this article to be silly and insulting, and I don't even remotely consider myself right wing.

The author seems to want to connect racism and the Republican party, and yes there are connections, and I imagine that there are racist Republicans, hell, I know there are. That being said, I know more racist Democrats. It sounds funny, but it's true. The Democratic party are the ones to pull the race card most times, their constant dwelling on race, to me, makes them more racist.

Also, let's not forget that the Democratic party originates in the Civil War Era south, and was backed by the KKK up until recent history.

Honestly, it just seems a bit more divide and conquer than anything else.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Battleline

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Battleline
reply to post by SLAYER69
 
You know these socialist "shills" give themselves away when ever they use there buzz phrases,"


Considering every single governmental form requires some degree of socialism to function as a society, what is the cut off point between a social based capitalist system and a socialism? Is it a specific tax percent or something? (like 33% is capitalism, 34% is socialism)
WOW, you sure spun what I said into the outer limits.................I have no idea what you are saying, I would guess that you are implying that there is socialism in all phases of government , I see your point but it has nothing to do with my post and I think you know that.


I wasn't addressing the greater point you were making..not yet anyhow. I was just questioning what you personally believe seperates a social based capitalism to a socialism...its one hell of a gray area.


I would guess that social capitalism has worked up and to the point that we have an administration that wants to push the envelope into communism.



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