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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by flobot
So history is wrong because neo96 on ATS says so? Please researche Southern Democrats and the Sothern Strategy.
Never said the history was wrong the part switching side is after all the party that is obsessed with race is still the Democratic party.
So much that they created the hypenated American moniker, and never shuts up about it.
ETA:
Senator Robert Byrd says everything.
If all the 'bad' people left to go to the right Byrd wouldn't exist, but he does.edit on 20-5-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cuervo
The US imposed that upon Germany as a result of the first world war. That was us, not Hitler.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by ownbestenemy
There are, bigoted folks on both sides. There are even some that are truly racist; as per your example of Byrd.
That was the point, but as clearly be seen as the response's in this thread 'racsim' only exists on one side- the right.
Which people who can think for themselves instead of regurgitating left wing propaganda already know.
Originally posted by mandella1099
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by mandella1099
Originally posted by Metallicus
Originally posted by muse7
The parties switched sides about 40 years ago.
I bet if you ask a nazi skinhead which party he's most likely to vote for, I'm 99.9% certain that he would vote for a Republican that favors "states rights" over a democrat.
Actually Nazis are socialists just like Obama and democrats. Nazis are also fascists that favor a strong, centralized government and would never support states rights. Of course being a Obama supporter I imagine it is easy to ignore facts and not allow them to get in the way of your partisan politics.
Don't forget as well that Nazis supported the infusion of government and big business, confiscation of all personal weapons, exclusion of anyone that didn't think exactly like them and accept their politics and beliefs as the one true party, etc, etc, etc....
Anything sound familiar?
The US imposed that upon Germany as a result of the first world war. That was us, not Hitler.
Although your argument is wrong, I will take the bait. So if the US imposed this upon the Germans, and these elements are associated with the Nazis, does it make the actions by the Nazis any less wrong (A simple yes or no will do, please)?edit on 20-5-2013 by mandella1099 because: (no reason given)
Soooo...lets take this slowly... If the racist once resided on the Left (still with me) but decided to bail and join the Right (become Republican)....what does that leave us with?
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
If you have any intellectual honesty...I'm going to shut you and your dancing down with ONE question: If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him the option of choosing Democrat or Republican...which do you think he would choose in todays climate?
If you have any intellectual honesty...I'm going to shut you and your dancing down with ONE question: If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him the option of choosing Democrat or Republican...which do you think he would choose in todays climate?
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
ACTUALLY I POSE THIS QUESTION TO ALL PARTICIPANTS:
If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him a choice of Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative in today's political climate, which party would he choose?
Now lets see who here has any intellectual honesty...this should end this square dance once and for all...
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
ACTUALLY I POSE THIS QUESTION TO ALL PARTICIPANTS:
If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him a choice of Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative in today's political climate, which party would he choose?
Now lets see who here has any intellectual honesty...this should end this square dance once and for all...
It all depends on whether or not he had enough slaves to force him to participate in Obamacare.
Well, in today's political climate, he couldn't be a slave holder, but he might qualify for agricultural subsidies.
If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him a choice of Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative in today's political climate, which party would he choose?
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by flobot
The fact remains that Conservative ideologies are more attractive towards racists than Liberal ideologies. That is what the article very nicely points out and lays it out pretty clearly.
What fact are you pointing to? This is what has me a bit confused about your otherwise, thoughtful posts.
Considering "conservative" was only alluded to in the article, I can only assume that you equated "right" with conservative in your assertions.
Given that, can you tell me what facts point out that the "conservative" ideology" is more "attractive" for "racists"?
ETA:
Also, what in the article "clearly" points out these indications.edit on 20-5-2013 by ownbestenemy because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by DZAG Wright
Soooo...lets take this slowly... If the racist once resided on the Left (still with me) but decided to bail and join the Right (become Republican)....what does that leave us with?
That leaves us with a racist Democratic party still.
Considering the sheer polarization that both parties have it is ludicrous to expect people to buy that excuse, and that is what it is an excuse.
Because the Democrats don't want to own up to their RACIST heritage that is still on display in modern America.
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by Cuervo
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
ACTUALLY I POSE THIS QUESTION TO ALL PARTICIPANTS:
If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him a choice of Democrat or Republican, Liberal or Conservative in today's political climate, which party would he choose?
Now lets see who here has any intellectual honesty...this should end this square dance once and for all...
It all depends on whether or not he had enough slaves to force him to participate in Obamacare.
You went from an intellectual debate to this....good job Cuervo, you let your emotions drive you towards hyperbole.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Exclusive: From the start of the Republic to today’s Republican ranting against Barack Obama, racism has been a central element of the American Right. But this ugly feature of U.S. history has often come concealed behind words praising traditions, liberty and states’ rights, Robert Parry reports.
By Robert Parry
Racism has been a consistent thread weaving through the American Right from the early days when Anti-Federalists battled against the U.S. Constitution to the present when hysterical Tea Partiers denounce the first African-American president. Other factors have come and gone for the Right, but racism has always been there.
Though definitions of Right and Left are never precise, the Left has generally been defined, in the American context, by government actions – mostly the federal government responding to popular movements and representing the collective will of the American people – seeking to improve the lot of common citizens and to reduce social injustice.
President Thomas Jefferson in a portrait by Rembrandt Peale.
The Right has been defined by opposition to such government activism. Since the Founding, the Right has decried government interference with the “free market” and intrusion upon “traditions,” like slavery and segregation, as “tyranny” or “socialism.”
Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
If you have any intellectual honesty...I'm going to shut you and your dancing down with ONE question: If we could bring a Southern, racist, slave owner back from the dead and give him the option of choosing Democrat or Republican...which do you think he would choose in todays climate?
Calling for intellectual honesty and then presenting an extreme hyperbolic question? DZAG, this does not compute. One side will claim that the dead plantation owner would surely be on their side while the other will make the same claims. It proves nothing and your question is....nonsense.
This is a white country and thus the rules would be tilted in their favor.