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Is studying science and mathematics valuable for a general education? Former U.S. Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott said it is a "waste of my time, waste of my teacher's time and a waste of space" -- if your goal is to become a lawyer.
Originally posted by rickymouse
... I learned to think by learning the process, I guess they don't want thinkers anymore, just people with lots of memorization that can't apply it.
Most of the math and science we learn in school is useless in a real world scenario unless you are in that field.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Cabin
What he is saying is that lawyers don't use math, science, logic, reasoning, critical thinking.
Basically, they (lawyers) are oozing mindless sea slugs (no offense to sea slugs) who live off the detritus of others.
Originally posted by Nephalim
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Cabin
What he is saying is that lawyers don't use math, science, logic, reasoning, critical thinking.
Basically, they (lawyers) are oozing mindless sea slugs (no offense to sea slugs) who live off the detritus of others.
Well, if your profession requires time, lots of time for specialization, not only to be good but to great at your job, then the focus should be on skills that work towards that. Art for example, an artist doesnt necessarily have to know anything outside of add,subract, multiply and divide... basic geometry in terms of math, why would you make that kid learn algebra as a hard requirement for a degree plan? The student certainly isnt studying to become an engineer, that student is learning to paint and draw and sculpt and those things take a lot of focus and dedication. An artist is wasting his/her time in an advanced math class when his/her specialty is using, pencils, paper, canvases, cameras, photoshop/digital mediums, clay... I mean... society trying to produce well rounded people is great but hard requirements that have nearly nothing to do with your specialty.. I dunno. I'd guess if you took basic ed for 12 years, you're probably good to move into specialization and not distraction.
Originally posted by Cabin
Originally posted by Nephalim
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by Cabin
What he is saying is that lawyers don't use math, science, logic, reasoning, critical thinking.
Basically, they (lawyers) are oozing mindless sea slugs (no offense to sea slugs) who live off the detritus of others.
Well, if your profession requires time, lots of time for specialization, not only to be good but to great at your job, then the focus should be on skills that work towards that. Art for example, an artist doesnt necessarily have to know anything outside of add,subract, multiply and divide... basic geometry in terms of math, why would you make that kid learn algebra as a hard requirement for a degree plan? The student certainly isnt studying to become an engineer, that student is learning to paint and draw and sculpt and those things take a lot of focus and dedication. An artist is wasting his/her time in an advanced math class when his/her specialty is using, pencils, paper, canvases, cameras, photoshop/digital mediums, clay... I mean... society trying to produce well rounded people is great but hard requirements that have nearly nothing to do with your specialty.. I dunno. I'd guess if you took basic ed for 12 years, you're probably good to move into specialization and not distraction.
Linear Perspective
Orthoganals
Fibonacci Sequence
Golden Mean
Symmetry
Just the first things that came to mind. Concepts from math that any artist should now. World-class music, literature is also mathemathical in many ways.
Mathemathics isn´t about real life application skills. Most jobs do not do the x½=y graph analysis. Although that is not the point of mathemathics. It is about the thinking skills it develops - critical thinking, analytical thinking, abstract thinking, problem solving, analysis, thinking 3D etc etc.
I know several art schools require students to learn math as subjects. Same goes about politics major. More and more liberal arts are starting adding in math simply to develop the thinking skills of students.edit on 19-5-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)edit on 19-5-2013 by Cabin because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Nephalim
Then those art schools are wasting their time and their students time, not to mention tuition money. They can teach those particulars in art class because they're integral to an art students specialization and art itself.
Lessons can be combined and focused into a concentration as they pertain to that field.
I believe your noteworthy mentions only help to prove my point.