reply to post by Bedlam
See, here is the disagreement.
No, I cannot skip the torque integration... to do so requires an assumption. What I am looking for is a zero summation of torque around the shaft, to
match the Conservation of Energy principle. If I get that, then I have two different calculations that agree and the matter is settled. If I do not
(and I repeat, there is a configuration in which I do not), then I have a dilemma. One of those equations is wrong!
So I have the following possibilities:
- I have incorrectly calculated the torque, or incorrectly integrated.
- I have incorrectly calculated the energy (difficult to miss that one).
- The torque equations are incorrect so far as we understand forces.
- The energy equations are incorrect so far as we understand them.
Obviously the most probable is the first, so my first step is to recheck my calculations. But after a certain point, one has to accept that the
calculations are correct. The next most probable is the second, but that is actually difficult to get wrong. So we are left with the last two
possibilities. Which one is it?
Truth is that which is always correct. Therefore, the next step is to build an actual working device to see if it will or will not work. I may or may
not get to that point, but I at least acknowledge the possibility, however slight, that I may do so.
You fail to examine any possibility of future discovery. If I am driving a car at 60 mph and shoot a bullet in front of the car at 60 mph, the bullet
is traveling at 120 mph, right? WRONG! It is traveling at something extremely close to 120 mph, and as those speeds approach 186,000 mph, that tiny
minuscule variation becomes substantial. That discovery is one example of critical thinking in action. Einstein was hounded by non-critical thinking
adversaries when he first proposed the idea of Relativity.
I, sir, am a critical thinker. I have the background and education to understand and utilize mathematical problems, but I also have the ability to
understand that science evolves with our understanding of physics. Have I made the statement that this motor will work? No. I cannot honestly do so.
But I also cannot make the statement that it will not work. All I can say is that if it does, it appears it would violate Conservation of Energy.
Have you done a thorough analysis of the forces involved? No, obviously, because you just informed me that you skipped the torque calculations. Have
you built one? If so, please let me and others know; it would be a great time-saver. Without either of those two actions, you, yourself, cannot state
with certainty that it cannot work.
I am analyzing; you are opining.
You may be right. I will be sure to be right.
TheRedneck