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But a CNN/ORC International survey released Sunday morning also indicates that congressional Republicans are not overplaying their hand when it comes to their reaction to the three controversies that have consumed the nation's capital over the past week and a half. And the poll finds that a majority of Americans take all three issues seriously.
Originally posted by muse7
I'm not saying they are irrelevant, no president should ever go unquestioned. But the way the GOP are going after every single thing like a pack of wolves just screams of politicizing to me. The Benghazi emails have been shown to have been edited by someone in the Republican house.
I think there are many bigger issues facing this nation, and instead of raging about why a Marine was holding an umbrella for the president, congress should be focusing on fixing the issues that are facing this country.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Ghost375
Well, first Ghost, I'm not your buddy. You throw things like the Race card down as if losing a hand in a card game...and I can't respect that or the person that enjoys doing it. Just to get that out of the way, up front.
haha, dude you need reading comprehension classes if you think I throw the race card. I only bring up race when people like you act like there are NO racist people who speak out against Obama. I've made my stance clear on this. I have NEVER used the race card, and by that I'm assuming you mean I use that as an argument. Bringing up the fact that every racist is anti-Obama isn't playing the race card. Playing the race card means I refuse to listen to someone's argument and dismiss it as them just being racist. I have NEVER done that.
Second, this Obama aid managed to explain everything away as irrelevant. Not just one scandal, but all of them. Well, wouldn't it just be dandy if the world really worked that way. Wouldn't we all like it if we could commit crimes or, by omission of action and leadership, allow crime to be committed then just say "Oh Well, it's irrelevant...move along now". I'll bet our prisons are FULL of people that wish the world really worked that way.
You refuse to acknowledge my point....he was NOT saying the scandal was irrelevant. He was saying what happened was WRONG! You're not my buddy. I'm not buddies with someone who complete ignores a person's main point and misrepresents facts..
Last, if you don't get Benghazi, I don't know what would. Losing a family member of your own and being told to 'get over it'? You see, to many Americans? That was a personal attack. It was an attack against a US sovereign outpost in a foreign nation. That happens.....too often, truth be known. What doesn't happen is a total 'thumb up butt' response from the top leadership of the nation ..."waiting to see" what happens. Well, they watched 4 men die hard. I hope they got a GOOOOOD look at what murder looks like. They committed it x's 4.
Saying the committed murder is asinine. This is war. Did George Bush personally murder those THOUSANDS of American soldiers for sending them into harm's way? Sometimes you lose troops in war situations. Now I'm greatly opposed to the wars and pissed Obama hasn't withdrawn all our troops. But I'm unbiased enough to understand that decisions have to be made that aren't always pretty. Funny how now that Obama is president...people are so quick to call these decisions murder. Is it because he's black?(I'm kidding there) But it is odd that you all are getting so mad at perfectly normal wartime situations.
Now...who specifically constitutes "they" is what I want to know and it's what a nation wants to know. The apologists and Obama lovers don't want to know. That's typical and expected. Obama could shoot a man dead in the Rose Garden and some people would be out 5 minutes later with reasons why it's "irrelevant". :shk:
Obama could end world hunger, and you'd still hate him...If he had sent troops to Benghazi, and they had died(Which was EXTREMELY LIKELY given the circumstances, you'd be complaining about that.
Go defend Obama with someone who cares to hear it. It's wasted type to me....
I'm not defending Obama. I'm defending the truth. Which you people refuse to recognize. Benghazi was a no issue. You only think it is because you're a partisan fool. I'm just here to deny ignorance. If that makes me look like an Obama supporter, so be it.
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by FlyersFan
They most definitely are backing off Benghazi, I have no idea how many hours of tv news a day was or is dedicated to Benghazi... I don't watch television. I'm judging by the fact that all the GOP is screaming about at the moment is the IRS scandal.edit on 20-5-2013 by Kali74 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
So says one of Obama's aides, in the rush to cover Sunday morning talk shows. Irrelevant this and Irrelevant
Obama Aide: 'Irrelevant Fact' Where President Was During Benghazi Attacks
I believe the only truly irrelevant thing I see here are his own opinions...when taken with his fanatic and blind loyalty to his Boss. I expect lemmings to leap from cliffs as a group, but actually seeing it while they try and sell others on what makes it a good idea..is breathtaking.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Kali74
The manufactured Benghazi scandal is falling apart, the GOP is backing off it big time and talking up the IRS scandal, .
Benghazi isn't a 'manufactured scandal'. SOMEONE gave the 'stand down' order and our people were left to die in the field. Then it was covered up by the Obama administration trying to blame a stupid online video. That's a scandal and it's not 'falling apart'. You are just hearing less about it because Obama keeps pumping out scandal after scandal and there aren't enough hours in the day to be able to get to talk about them all.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Hey, to those who say that "only" four men died, go tell that to their families.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Its not manufactured but still its greatly exaggerated.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Hey, to those who say that "only" four men died, go tell that to their families.
So you are playing the emotional card now? Four people is a hell of a lot less than 3000 people!
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Its not manufactured but still its greatly exaggerated.
Uh ... no. SOMEONE gave the 'stand down order'. SOMEONE left our people in the field to die. SOMEONE (many someones') covered and lied to the American people. Those facts are sickening. And they are facts .. not exaggeration.
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Hey, to those who say that "only" four men died, go tell that to their families.
So you are playing the emotional card now? Four people is a hell of a lot less than 3000 people!
I would say more, but don't feel like getting an extreme TOS violation. Are you saying that they didn't have assets in the area to deal with the situation?
THEY WERE LEFT TO DIE! It is sickening. If you want to brush it aside then so be it for you.edit on 20-5-2013 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by MidnightTide
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
So perhaps Flyers saw the light?
Finally realized that Democrat / Republican are equally bad.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by MidnightTide
Hey, to those who say that "only" four men died, go tell that to their families.
So you are playing the emotional card now? Four people is a hell of a lot less than 3000 people!
I would say more, but don't feel like getting an extreme TOS violation. Are you saying that they didn't have assets in the area to deal with the situation?
THEY WERE LEFT TO DIE! It is sickening. If you want to brush it aside then so be it for you.edit on 20-5-2013 by MidnightTide because: (no reason given)
It was clear THE CONSULATE did not have enough security personel at the time to ward off 100+ terrorists. How many soldiers do you think were needed and what makes you think they would have responded in time, and what makes you think there would be no big bloodbath as a result?
You are grasping at straws on this issue.edit on 20/5/13 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Its not manufactured but still its greatly exaggerated.
Uh ... no. SOMEONE gave the 'stand down order'. SOMEONE left our people in the field to die. SOMEONE (many someones') covered and lied to the American people. Those facts are sickening. And they are facts .. not exaggeration.
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
That was a city where most of the international community had fled (Source) for worsening security conditions in the months prior. Yet, they kept an Ambassador in THAT? I'd shake my head if that were on a Pacific or Caribbean island....not in a city where the locals shot at passing Helicopters just as a way to kill time and a new target to shoot at.
4 men..including the highest rank U.S. Official to die in my living memory, by enemy action, went down that night by a CHAIN of failure that started well before that night and WELL outside just Clinton or Obama.
It's a shame to hear any American figure it's a non-issue to pass over and leave unsettled for who made it happen.
their 'key witness' testified that he requested 4 Special Forces troops be sent from Tripoli to come help, but that SOCA not Obama, denied the request in order to keep the Tripoli Embassy safe.
Then the talking points emails were leaked to ABC and they jumped all over that... only it turns out that the emails the GOP leaked were altered by someone within the GOP and don't match the emails the White House submitted to Congress.
So yes, the manufactured scandal is falling apart.
The White House on Tuesday accused congressional Republicans of fabricating emails leaked to two different media organizations that suggested interest in scrubbing the Benghazi, Libya, talking points.
Both ABC News and The Weekly Standard reported last week that then-Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes wrote an email primarily concerned with the State Department's suggested edits of the Benghazi talking points.