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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Agree2Disagree
Then I invite you to start a thread. If you choose not to, and also choose to terminate this discussion, I will respect that. In closing however, I would like to point out that you are the one who claimed that your belief constitutes as knowledge, or serves as a precursor to such inevitable knowledge. This was in response to my questioning your credibility in making any sort of authoritative statement regarding cosmic powers and their responsibilities. If I misunderstood your claims, then I apologize.edit on 4-6-2013 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by covertpanther
So you're stating...as fact mind you....that an empire that devoutly PERSECUTED anyone belonging to the Christian faith....actually STARTED that faith?
100% logic fail
A2D
Originally posted by covertpanther
reply to post by Agree2Disagree
Your logic fail is based on information that you have been conditioned to accept, and those before you as well. Those who write your history books and texts books and relgious books; are those who have set out to control humanity.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by Agree2Disagree
You as a human being, aren't in any position to know for a fact what you claim to know for a fact. A fish does not know what it is to climb a mountain, nor does it know what a mountain is, as these things are beyond its nature. Likewise, cosmic powers and their relations and responsibilities are beyond our nature to know, which means all you have is speculation. There is nothing wrong with this as long as you admit it and acknowledge the nature of your claims. They are indefinite and therefore subject to re evaluation, as are mine.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
As such, you refuse to give me any reason to accept your claims that apparently, neither "God" nor Jesus bear any responsibility for the fallout of their actions and their subsequent inaction to correct the wayward course of their followers.
That's the point I am making here. There are idiots all over the world killing each other over beliefs that are, in themselves, perverse and inaccurate. These acts of cruelty would never have happened had Jesus or "God" descended from the heavens and attended to such conflicts in the interest of preventing bloodshed as a result of the "telephone game". They were the catalyst; we have carried that reaction forward, both introducing foreign elements and losing others with time; we are now in the midst of several global wars based upon who is right regarding the true ruling higher power. If anyone has the right and the obligation to illuminate the truth in these matters and prevent further chaos and destruction, it is your god and your savior.
If I take a gun out in the middle of the city, drop it on the ground with a note explaining its mechanisms and recommended purpose, then stand idly by as a bunch of children pick it up and shoot each other...am I responsible for that? If I had never put that gun there, they would have remained unharmed. But since I made the conscious decision to give them that opportunity, I am responsible for the ensuing damage, am I not? I would be called upon to account for my actions, correct? And I would be expected to accept my punishment for my poor judgment. And if I had any brains at all, I never would have left the gun for strangers to find anyway. I would have kept it safe until such a time as I could either safely dispose of it or found a suitably educated successor to receive it in their turn.
Even so, it's not an accurate analogy unless I also add that I created that entire city and every person in it, meaning that I know ahead of time exactly where that gun will go and who will use it and when and where and why. Because I planned it. So really, I have even more responsibility for what happens with that gun and how it is used, because I am aware of the crimes that may be committed with it and I am able to stop them.
Yet they have failed to do so. And your excuses have failed to exonerate them. Because, once again, you have failed to establish any sort of authority in the matter of cosmic powers and their relationships and duties. Are we clear now?
Originally posted by Agree2Disagree
reply to post by covertpanther
Simply amazing that you're going to say my very simply comments are based on misinformation...and then go on to use word play to push your own very misinformed opinion....(Elizabeth...a lizard birth) Yeah seems completely legit and logical....Evidence please?
A2D
Originally posted by allenidaho
Christianity is the sole reason you aren't living on Mars right now.