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Obama Scandalpalooza: SCANDAL #4: EPA-Gate

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posted on May, 19 2013 @ 11:28 PM
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"Liberals" are hunted down like dogs by this administration. The Conservatives are treating normal scrutiny of the Tea Party -- which absolutely is a political organization that does not qualify for it's "non-dislcosure charity status" as if they are enduring detention camps.

Don't worry, no rich boys have to disclose their backing of an astro turf organization. No banks will get shuttered. Nobody Conservative is ever going to spend a day in jail -- not that party affiliation is what this is about.

Obama should be impeached for not investigating Bush's war crimes and for drone warfare. However, Republicans are doctoring up Bengahzi memos because they need to have some issue at arms length. They aren't against Wall Street favoritism or ANY kind of warfare -- they have to go after sex scandals and absolute nonsense.

The recent polling of the US population reveals ZERO effect from all these scandals. I'm sure the take-away message is that the "sheeple are ignorant" but in this case, I'm pleasantly surprised at the maturity and intuition of the American public; these "scandals" are nonsense. They don't care.

The "EPA" targeting Conservatives -- like what is a corporation other than a profit-making enterprise? Asking someone to actually clean up their mess or be honest is the new "persecution."

I'm sure there are details to this "new gate" -- but I don't care. Nobody cares about this noise. You've blown your last conspiracy Peanut Gallery. Nobody cares about Benghazi because Bush had similar attacks. "Talking points" are not a smoking gun -- idiots. And if your people have to doctor the memos to MAKE them seem suspicious -- well, do we just shrug our shoulders at a conspiracy to implicate and still jump up and down about a cover up that never took place?

I really wish some of these nitwits would be concerned about eternal war, about little growth in jobs, the disparity between rich and poor -- SOMETHING that makes my life better. Something that matters.

Yet here we are with STUPID, moronic, poorly thought out conspiracy -- and I'm not going to bother wasting time investigating. I frankly don't care if "Conservative" groups get targeted - because NOBODY is held to account. WTF is the matter with regulating pollution?

I feel like I'm expecting too much here. Carry on with the nonsense,… let's just keep count of MY prediction that nothing will happen despite the MEDIA -- you know that "liberal media" that supports rich people is going to stir the pot. But nothing will happen. Because there is nothing here. Just people upset that a black guy is President rather than actually being honest about issues.




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by HauntWok
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Next time consider some facts.


Facts? Like the 200 million a day & 10% of the Navy, india trip for Obama "facts"? I can make up just as many "facts" as you all do. How can you possibly think that the right wing can take the moral high ground of "facts"?

Please, don't lecture me on slander, that's 90% of what hate-fuel FOX News uses on a daily basis. Course shows like Hannity duck behind the 1st Amendment and call themselves "Opinion" shows disguised as "news".

After 6 years of lies and hate, do you honestly expect me to care one iota about whatever claptrap "scandal" you all have come up with? It's going to get investigated, and more than likely it's going to be found out to be far overblown. Some will loose their jobs. But not the president.



Wow you seem really stuck on your "single fact' since you already mentioned it at least twice in the same thread. So lets see if we can get this unstuck so you can move along here. This "200 million per day story" originated from the Press Of India, quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai.

In reference to your second paragraph... We personally didn't come up with any of these so called "claptrap scandals". And if you don't care about them, then why are you spewing hot air over them here?



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:04 AM
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Wow you seem really stuck on your "single fact' since you already mentioned it at least twice in the same thread. So lets see if we can get this unstuck so you can move along here. This "200 million per day story" originated from the Press Of India, quoting an anonymous source in Mumbai.


And you all ran with it as if it were scandal gold.

So, let's recap here.

The Birther Scandal: Total hokum, and still believed by conservatives and the hard right, even though it's unequivocal bull dunk.

The India Trip Scandal: Total hokum, did't happen, but reported on FOX News as if it were gospel.

Benghazi Scandal: Tragedy used by the GOP to try and tear a president down, had to resort to editing emails in order to make it seem worse than it was.

Death Panels: Never happened, don't exist.

Climategate: Another fake scandal,

Acorn Scandal: Manufactured bull.

Should I go on? Anyone else seeing a pattern emerge here? Fake scandal after fake scandal after fake scandal. All with one goal in mind. To take down an administration.

Instead of influencing public opinion by using legislation that would improve the lives of US Citizens, and the Economy of the United States. the hard line Right, would rather just throw enough poo at the wall and see what sticks.


In reference to your second paragraph... We personally didn't come up with any of these so called "claptrap scandals". And if you don't care about them, then why are you spewing hot air over them here?


Why? Because someone has to debunk the endless lies. Why should I just sit back and let you pat each other on the back over fake scandal? Someone has to be skeptic, you all will believe absolutely ANYTHING that makes this president look bad. You all won't bat an eye at anything that tears this president down, even if it's completely fake.

Instead of using critical thought, you think that anything bad said about this president is 100% true. Someone has to be there to put the facts out there instead of letting lie after lie after lie continue to germinate and fester.

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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:37 AM
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Originally posted by HauntWok
The India Trip Scandal: Total hokum, did't happen, but reported on FOX News as if it were gospel.

Dude ... he went .. he spent .. it happened.


Benghazi Scandal - Tragedy used by the GOP to try and tear a president down, had to resort to editing emails in order to make it seem worse than it was.

Are you freak'n kidding me??
It wasn't a 'tragedy' .. it was a 'stand down order' that left our people in the field to die. And it was covered up repeatedly by the administration. There is no 'trying to make it seem worse' by anyone ... it IS worse than Watergate and every other scandal by any other administration.


Death Panels Never happened, don't exist.

Obamacare (which is unsustainable and will cost the American public billions of $$) isnt' in fully implemented. And yes .... if you actually read Obamacare, they WILL EXIST.


Climategate Another fake scandal,

"hide the decline'. I challenge you to google and read. And Obama throwing our tax money at 'green companies' which just turn around and fail ... another example of him not knowing what the heck he's doing AND of him propping up far left wing money making schemes. And his suppot of Cap and Trade shows he's fully engaged in the man-made-global-warming scam.


Acorn Scandal : Manufactured bull.

Dude .. Obama was a lawyer for ACORN. He pushed for bad home loans via ACORN and so Obama helped cause the housing bubble problem in the USA. He was up to his eyeballs in ACORN. He fully supports ACORN. And ACORN is as corrupt as the day is long ...


Should I go on?

Only if you want to continue to be shot down with facts.

Anyone else seeing a pattern emerge here?

Yes .... a pattern of some Obama supporters refusing to see that he isn't the promises messiah.

Because someone has to debunk the endless lies.

Yes .. and that's why many of us are on here .. to debunk the lies that Obama supporters
are pushing saying that Obama is as innocent as a newborn babe.

Instead of using critical thought, you think that anything bad said about this president is 100% true.

Instead of using critical thought, you think that anything bad exposed about this president is 100% bunk. Seriously dude ... where there is smoke there is fire .. and the freak'n forest is burning down around Obama. The dude is a human torch.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:40 AM
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Originally posted by hellobruce
Or more likely most people realise it is just republicans throwing mud and hoping some sticks (without much success it seems)

Or more likely ... some Obama supporters just can't come to grips with the fact that their guy is as corrupt and as big of a liar as all the other politicians out there ... and that he can't keep himself clear of scandal because he's up to his eyeballs in incompetence and deceit.

ETA ... I have to laugh when ever I see someone scream snarky stuff about 'republicans this' or 'democrats that'. Wake up people .... politicians from both parties are corrupt liars and when facts come out about a democrat or a republican being corrupt or involved in scandals, the fact is it's almost certainly true that they are involved.
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posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:45 AM
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ETA ... I have to laugh when ever I see someone scream snarky stuff about 'republicans this' or 'democrats that'. Wake up people .... politicians from both parties are corrupt liars.


Your a very angry person with your political system yet i have seen you defend your countries foreign policy in other threads. So what is it are the Politicans in the US incompetent or not?



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
i have seen you defend your countries foreign policy in other threads. So what is it are the Politicans in the US incompetent or not?

Some policies I defend. Some I reject.
Like our involvement in Syria, Libya and Egypt I denounce.
My foreign policy thoughts are not the topic.

You asked .. are the politicians in the US incompetent or not? The answer .. some are incompetent .. some are not. But, IMHO, most have their own agendas and are looking to line their own pockets. Most put their position and power first and the 'good of America' waaaaaaaaay down on their list of priorities. None are trustworthy. And that is probably what nearly every politician on the planet is ... untrustworthy. IMHO.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 05:56 AM
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You asked .. are the politicians in the US incompetent or not? The answer .. some are incompetent .. some are not. But, IMHO, most have their own agendas and are looking to line their own pockets. Most put their position and power first and the 'good of America' waaaaaaaaay down on their list of priorities. None are trustworthy. And that is probably what nearly every politician on the planet is ... untrustworthy. IMHO.



You do realise there is a solution to this run for president yourself. Start a campaign on Ats!



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by AthlonSavage
run for president yourself.


I value my soul too much. I have seen people enter into politics with good intentions and good ideas .. free of the back room cigar deal mentality ... only to watch them become pandering shamless soul-less hustlers. So no .. I'll keep my soul free and clear of that. Only a very strong person could enter politics and withstand the evil that permeates it. Thanks anyways .... YOU could always run.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 06:40 AM
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NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American voter. Most know only what they see on TV or like some here, will defend Obama no matter what he does. All this will probably go nowhere. This administration will stall, hide, blame others and outright lie, till people tire of hearing about it and the next big thing comes along. Obama is great at taking credit, knows nothing at all about accepting responsibility.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:11 AM
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Originally posted by DAVID64
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NEVER underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.


Very true, just look at the birfer nonsense and how many people bought the nonsense that Obama is not a natural born citizen!

Most know only what they see on TV or like some here, will whine about Obama no matter what he does.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:59 AM
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Originally posted by elouina

Originally posted by topdog81

Sadly, I believe it's a clear combination of both of the points you mentioned. As someone that staunchly supported the President up to reelection -

I now feel deeply betrayed by the broken promises and sickened by the entirely contradictory actions of what was promised to the American people.


You do realize now that you have lost your Obama blinders that I am obligated to report you to attackwatch.com, Flag@WhiteHouse.gov, and fightthesmears.com.
Welcome to the informed voter club.




edit on 19-5-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)

OMG, this is real.

I thought maybe it was a joke. I was wrong. How crazy has our country become?



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by MidnightTide
But hey, I will agree it is about time to stop "BEING OUTRAGED" and DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

If nothing is done the corruption is only going to get worse, and how many more years do we have before things really start falling apart.

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Tide, I had to star you for begging the question.
The wealth distribution in the US is presently much worse than in Rome when it hit bottom.
The bread and circus isn't getting it done for the poor anymore, because all the plebs are
getting to eat is handed out at the games now. The infrastructure can be quickly judged
for any country in decline by just checking out the roads. Potholes = corruption...
sorry, but it works. There were a couple of times last year cycling I wished I had full pads.
"Before things really start falling apart" started happening 100 years ago; and remember
that Fabyan creep... it took Rome a long time to head south too. That thing Cicero said
about largesse from the public coffers is just aggravated by the gold nowdays being
leveraged at sometimes 100 to 1.
Good tipoff though--- no matter where you live things are going to invariably go to Hell when
the accepted business model is fraud.
I'm not sure what the Feds use for a yardstick when investigating a 'crash landing'...
but there are supposed to be survivors, right Spidey?
Hitch the 5-way tight, bud: we're goin' in firm. Maybe soon



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 08:28 AM
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I truly am enjoying all the scandals that are coming out about the Tyrant 0bama and his corrupt admin.

It is satisfying to see just how the champion of Big Govt, is failing and falling.
Can't wait to see more come out and him fall from his Progressive grace.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 11:29 AM
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Despite evidence of corruption and criminal activity, his loyal followers will claim that white conservative racists are trying to drive a black man from office.

Despite the growing scandals, his followers seem to love him more...



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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Benghazi Scandal: Tragedy used by the GOP to try and tear a president down, had to resort to editing emails in order to make it seem worse than it was.

Death Panels: Never happened, don't exist.

Climategate: Another fake scandal,

Acorn Scandal: Manufactured bull.


LOL! Those are great links you provided backing up your point of view! /sarcasm

Typical Obama defense = no defense.




posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:20 PM
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Don't forget the EPA's e-mail scandal where people were caught creating fake e-mail accounts to avoid documenting what they were working on!


Acting EPA head, regional official ensnared in Windsorgate email scandal



Newly disclosed documents show the acting head of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency used a private email account to conduct official business, the same practice that contributed to the downfall of his predecessor.


washingtonexaminer.com...



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by elouina

Originally posted by topdog81

Sadly, I believe it's a clear combination of both of the points you mentioned. As someone that staunchly supported the President up to reelection -

I now feel deeply betrayed by the broken promises and sickened by the entirely contradictory actions of what was promised to the American people.


You do realize now that you have lost your Obama blinders that I am obligated to report you to attackwatch.com, Flag@WhiteHouse.gov, and fightthesmears.com.
Welcome to the informed voter club.




edit on 19-5-2013 by elouina because: (no reason given)

OMG, this is real.

I thought maybe it was a joke. I was wrong. How crazy has our country become?

I just looked this up. It is real. Big Brother. 1984. This ramps it up a bit. Need to lie down with a cool cloth to the forehead and some kind of tonic. OMG. OMG.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 03:41 PM
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All the scandals are being released now because they will seem boring once the military action starts between the United States of Israel and England with Syria and Iran.

Enjoy the show.



posted on May, 20 2013 @ 07:08 PM
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"Regulations" Democrat style

What more can be said....



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