Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by fadedface
Okay. I'll attempt to be fair.
Can you please show me a country where socialism has successfully been implemented?
It is very hard to do that, for the very simple reason that every time it has been attempted, in it's true form, it has been met with powerful
opposition. It has never been given a chance to succeed, therefore it has not succeeded.
And so on and so forth.
Those who have the most to lose, also have, by that very fact, the most resources to throw against it, and that, historically, is what has happened.
So while there is no example of true socialism, there are plenty of examples of socialist appeasement, as well as suppression, that undermine the
natural leadership of such populist movements, that as another poster points out, would, in effect, lead to a more meritocratic structure, given the
opportunity, have, in fact, served only to nullify leadership of the people, by the people, while maintaining the status quo, and the abiding elitist
structures of governance. Or adversely, have backed attempts at socialism into a corner facilitating a defensive need for military dictatorships, and
There has never been a socialist government, certainly not an enduring one, it is yet to be tried and tested, so your request, in short, is unfair.
Since the uprisings in the first half of the twentieth century every effort has been made to prevent such a happening, right down to the grass roots,
where the very people who would benefit fear such a form of government...that in itself prevents it from ever happening.
"The abolition of the rule of capital, the realization of a socialist social order – this, and nothing less, is the historical theme of the present
revolution. It is a formidable undertaking, and one that will not be accomplished in the blink of an eye just by the issuing of a few decrees from
above. Only through the conscious action of the working masses in city and country can it be brought to life, only through the people's highest
intellectual maturity and inexhaustible idealism can it be brought safely through all storms and find its way to port."
"Without general elections, without unrestricted freedom of press and assembly, without a free struggle of opinion, life dies out in every public
institution, becomes a mere semblance of life, in which only the bureaucracy remains as the active element". - Rosa Luxemburg