reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
Gee, thanks. How very courteous of you.
I am aware of Agenda 21, and it's a list of suggestions
I still see you sensationalizing it ala Beck & Co., though. What he claims and what it really is
are two different things entirely, but the
GOP has tried to demonize the ideas, because, well, that's what they do.
I spent about an hour online this morning looking at the stances of different media networks and personalities. I just don't see the same 'threats'
that you do. You've yet
to stop attackinig "Progressives" and "liberals" as commies and tyrants, despite numerous efforts to give you more
I debated for a while whether or not to respond to you at all.
Agenda 21 is a 300-page document divided into 40 chapters that have been grouped into 4 sections:
Section I: Social and Economic Dimensions 
This section is directed toward combating poverty, especially in developing countries, changing consumption patterns, promoting health, achieving a
more sustainable population, and sustainable settlement in decision making.
Nothing there to worry about. Sounds good to me. Erm...stop WASTE and GREED, promote HEALTH, and BIRTH CONTROL
Section II: Conservation and Management of Resources for Development 
Includes atmospheric protection, combating deforestation, protecting fragile environments, conservation of biological diversity (biodiversity),
control of pollution and the management of biotechnology, and radioactive wastes.
Yep, works for me there, too!
Stop POLLUTION, stop BULLDOZING and RAPING forests and jungles, PROTECT fragile places like the Coral Reefs, for
example, or STOP spilling oil and fracturing the earth's surface and strip-mining. Sign me up.
Section III: Strengthening the Role of Major Groups 
Includes the roles of children and youth, men, women, NGOs, local authorities, business and workers and strengthening the role of indigenous peoples,
their communities, and farmers.
Oh my! They want to strengthen the populace! Oh noez!! Children, women, youth, non-govt orgs, business people AND their employees, and allow
indiginous people to live the way they want to! FARMERS! Sorry, doesn't sound like global gloom and doom to me.
Section IV: Means of Implementation 
international institutions and
hold up. As long as this means THEY ABOLISH THE FED and GUT THE BIG BANKS of their power, I'm good. Even better if they shut down Wall Street
altogether, because profit-based business that dehumanizes PEOPLE (who then die in collapsed garment factories, etc) is WRONG at EVERY LEVEL.
The "financial mechanisms" are probably the BIGGEST factor in the world's problems, and it is due to the Shadow Cabal, I have not denied that. Their
support of what Wall Street and the global corps have done is sickening, and it's the ONLY reason to fight this. And I know your
is your precious money. That's just sad.
The rest of the points are fine, and nowhere does it say they want to implement "eugenics!!" (as you frequently shout), or reducing the population via
genocides and other such Nazi tactics (which you also emphasize and about which you are also wrong). Nothing about "Obamacare death panels" (at
least in terms of the health of citizens) or "stealing your money"... the "Terror Tuesdays" meetings that go on, however, in the White House where
they name people who they are going to kill 'in the name of terrorism' is another matter entirely, and to THAT I am entirely opposed.
Sometimes I wonder if you wake up hysterical every morning and what it must be like to be so deeply entrenched in KNOWN conspiracy theorists such as
Beck, or biased "not-news-but-fear-mongering" Fox News. I see that you are not unintelligent, and that you have LOTS of information packed between
It's when you BLATANTLY misconstrue what "progressives" and "liberals" want, and continue to defend Capitalism at its WORST, and refer to blowhard
non-journalists as "expert opinions" that you lose credibility with me.
But again, thanks for your cordial, non-hating response. I think. If you'd have the equal wherewithal to look up what's WRONG with the rantings of
Beck, Palin, Bachmann, etc, just like you expect others to look things up, you'd have a better outlook. Most educated people realize that he's not
worth taking seriously. I hope you'll step up, like I did, and really, REALLY view who it is you think is worth following and, worse, believing.
You made a reply on another of my threads where I brought up how big business has destroyed the American way of life and is "pillaging across the
globe like a modern-day Attila the Hun," (WHICH IT IS) but you just can't see it.
And for those reasons, I really don't see much point in talking to you. We don't really REALLY know who the shadow government are, and most analysts
agree that even the actors in it don't actually know who is at the helm. THAT is what worries me.
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