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UKIP Leader Chased Off Streets Of Edinburgh

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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 09:31 AM
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Closer to the GE, their policies on other things will become clear, but the Immigration and EU issues are so big on everyone's mind right now that that's what they're concentrating on. Everyone should go out and vote UKIP because 5 more years of any of the other parties will just make the situation here in the UK even worse.




posted on May, 17 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by EloquentThinker
Closer to the GE, their policies on other things will become clear, but the Immigration and EU issues are so big on everyone's mind right now that that's what they're concentrating on. Everyone should go out and vote UKIP because 5 more years of any of the other parties will just make the situation here in the UK even worse.


Thats what has me on the fence between not voteing and voteing for UKIP

I just can not bare the thought of another 5 years of Labour or Torys......

Why people vote for them I dont know......



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 09:57 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by Ramcheck

England, we tried to warn you but you went ahead and began voting in numbers for this right wing nonsense.


When did you 'warn' England please?


I'm shamelessly bumping my own question to the OP who seems to be ignoring it.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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How do you think Communism takes power? Obviously irony is not your forte.


What does communism have to do with anything ?
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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by EloquentThinker
The OP is probably some Labour/Con shill trying to give negative publicity to UKIP. It won't work, because vast numbers of the British public are sick of this open door immigration policy. This isn't a race issue, nor whether we're trying to isolate ourselves - It's about the best interests of the UK.


Again, you say this is about immigration, but you ignore that UKIP has no opinion on any other vital policy!

People are (hopefully) not going to vote for a party like UKIP just because of this one policy on immigration! If you would, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place.

The best interests of the UK... that would be a government that knows how to continue funding the NHS in the face of increasing longevity, that knows how to increase employment, that knows how to encourage companies to come here, that has a plan for education, that has goals for renewable energy, that has a plan for sustainable and continued growth of infrastructure... UKIP has nothing to say on ANY OF THAT.

If you genuinely want what is best for the UK, you will vote for a party that can deliver on more important things than whether you think there are too many brown faces in the high street



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by EloquentThinker
Closer to the GE, their policies on other things will become clear, but the Immigration and EU issues are so big on everyone's mind right now that that's what they're concentrating on. Everyone should go out and vote UKIP because 5 more years of any of the other parties will just make the situation here in the UK even worse.


So you think kicking out the immigrants and getting out of the EU will help england somehow ?

Please explain how ousting close to one third of our qualified medical professionals and severing ties with our main trade partner constitutes an advantage for this country.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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So you are willing to elect a potentially racist and homophobic bunch of ideologues who have no clear policy on... Environment, Education, NHS, International diplomacy, Foreign policy, Military...
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That statement could clearly apply to the 3 parties here in UK.

I think the 'no clear policy on Environment, Education, NHS', etc is pretty much the evident state of affairs with the coalition and Labour. To suggest it's purely a UKIP thing is naiive at best.
How many u turns have the main 3 parties done in the last 3 years on their policies?


As for 'racist'? You want to play that card?

There's only one race: The Human Race.
A mistrust of peoples based on their ideaologies doesn't make them racist. That's what this is about, not skin colour. My grandad didn't like Nazis because of their ideaology. He didn't hate germans. But you would twist that and suggest that is racism.
That being the case, I guess you despising UKIP and all they represent would make you 'racist'. That's absurd.

And homophobic???

Nigel Farage backed the idea of same sex partnerships
Go back and look through the 3 main parties manifestos pre election and see where any of them discuss gay marriage. Even groups like Stonewall weren't campaigning for this to happen.
Cameron has and HAD no mandate with which to introduce it, and then steam roller it through parliament in such an undemocratic fashion.
The reason it's happening is Peter Tatchell has got a series of cases lodged at the European Court of Human Rights, they'll be heard within the next year, and my view is that Cameron is jumping before he's pushed.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by Ismail

So you think kicking out the immigrants and getting out of the EU will help england somehow?

Please explain how ousting close to one third of our qualified medical professionals and severing ties with our main trade partner constitutes an advantage for this country.



Nice Straw man argument



strawman

You misrepresented someone's argument to make it easier to attack.


The UKIP does not want to kick immigrants out (except the illegal ones!) or to oust a third of our qualified medical professionals or sever trade ties with our main trade partners.

They do want to leave the EU, reduce immigration and deport illegal immigrants.

White Britons expected to be in the minority within 50 years


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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Rocker2013Again, you say this is about immigration, but you ignore that UKIP has no opinion on any other vital policy!


Not yet, but closer to the next GE, I'm sure it'll all come out.


Originally posted by Rocker2013People are (hopefully) not going to vote for a party like UKIP just because of this one policy on immigration! If you would, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place.


The immigration issue is so important that I believe UKIP could win at the General Election just based on their immigration and EU policies alone, lol. Anyone that lives in the cities knows how bad things are getting. Left-wing nut-jobs may love living in a multicultural paradise but most of us don't. We are British and don't want to lose our identity to the EU or anyone else. I always find it funny that politicians promote integration between people and have this open door policy, but themselves live in upper class areas isolating themselves from these foreigners whilst leaving it to the rest of us to live next to them.


Originally posted by Rocker2013The best interests of the UK... that would be a government that knows how to continue funding the NHS in the face of increasing longevity, that knows how to increase employment, that knows how to encourage companies to come here, that has a plan for education, that has goals for renewable energy, that has a plan for sustainable and continued growth of infrastructure... UKIP has nothing to say on ANY OF THAT.


UKIP will have plenty to say over the next year or two.

Also, the three main parties have been useless over the last couple of decades. Funding the NHS? Through more debt. Increase employment? Reclassifying jobs doesn't count. Encourage companies to come here? Yeah, by giving 99% tax breaks like with Google. Education? Utter failure. Growth? Don't make me laugh. Simple fact is that the three main parties are disconnected from reality. The population has been demanding a Referendum and something to be done on the Immigration issue for years, but it takes the rise of UKIP to finally force them to start talking about it. The government is supposed to represent the people, not ignore them for outside interests.


Originally posted by Rocker2013If you genuinely want what is best for the UK, you will vote for a party that can deliver on more important things than whether you think there are too many brown faces in the high street


People like you would ruin things for future generations if you had a chance to because of short-sightedness.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by khimbar

Originally posted by Ramcheck

England, we tried to warn you but you went ahead and began voting in numbers for this right wing nonsense.


When did you 'warn' England please?


I'm shamelessly bumping my own question to the OP who seems to be ignoring it.



Oh, thanks for letting me know, and picking out the most irrelevant part of the thread for your own smug satisfaction. If you're asking me where it is on ATS, it doesn't exist - I was referring to the times when I've spoken to real living people, you know? Those outside your door.

Fortunately we still currently live in a democracy, this allows us to dislike one and other, as well as each others politics. You'll notice I haven't even given my political views yet but that hasn't stopped ATS from calling me "Anti-English", "A Tory Shill" etcetera. I'm sure that particular rent-a-mob have gone back to their muslim hating threads though.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by Ramcheck
Far right electorate hero and despicable human being - Nigel Farage, was today sent packing after making his first ... and probably final attempt at spreading his hate campaign north of the border. The people of Scotland responded without haste...


Many British people are sick of the name calling if they even mention the issue of immigration.

Please go and crawl back under that large chip on your shoulder and quit the name calling already.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ramcheck
Far right electorate hero and despicable human being - Nigel Farage, was today sent packing after making his first ... and probably final attempt at spreading his hate campaign north of the border. The people of Scotland responded without haste...


Many British people are sick of the name calling if they even mention the issue of immigration.

Please go and crawl back under that large chip on your shoulder and quit the name calling already.



Please refer to your own signature.


The truth hurts.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Ismail

Originally posted by EloquentThinker
Closer to the GE, their policies on other things will become clear, but the Immigration and EU issues are so big on everyone's mind right now that that's what they're concentrating on. Everyone should go out and vote UKIP because 5 more years of any of the other parties will just make the situation here in the UK even worse.


So you think kicking out the immigrants and getting out of the EU will help england somehow ?

Please explain how ousting close to one third of our qualified medical professionals and severing ties with our main trade partner constitutes an advantage for this country.



For the love of God..

UKIP isn't kicking out anyone except illegals, then want to restrict immigration for a while. "Ousting medical professionals"? Where the hell did you get that from, lol? It's obvious that you've bought into the Tory rhetoric. The best thing that the UK can do is close the borders for a while and leave the EU so this country can recover from Labour's disastrous open-door policy. The EU may be our biggest trading market but, as the relationship stands now with so many powers having been given away, this is not what we signed up to all those years ago and people are fed up with it. Labour screwed us over with the insane debt and immigrants, whilst the Cons/Lib Dems are no better. The advantage will be allowing us to once again be in control of our own destiny, not what those Nazi's in Brussels want from us.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by Ramcheck
Please refer to your own signature.


The truth hurts.


The truth is that you are an intolerant left wing extremist who thinks he is right and that anyone who disagrees with him is evil.

God help us if such bigots ever get any power beyond small rent a mobs abusing an English politician on the streets of Edinburgh.



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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ramcheck
Please refer to your own signature.


The truth hurts.


The truth is that you are an intolerant left wing extremists who thinks he is right and that anyone who disagrees with him is evil.

God help us if bigots like you ever get any power beyond small rent a mobs.


edit on 17-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)


Okay thank you for your insight, Mystic Meg. I'll give you a 'Troll Star' just for turning up though.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Ramcheck

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ramcheck
Please refer to your own signature.


The truth hurts.


The truth is that you are an intolerant left wing extremists who thinks he is right and that anyone who disagrees with him is evil.

God help us if bigots like you ever get any power beyond small rent a mobs.


edit on 17-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)


Okay thank you for your insight, Mystic Meg. I'll give you a 'Troll Star' just for turning up though.



I absolutely love the way that the popular opinion of ATS is that they are against your argument. These "troll stars" represent the opinion of ATS against your Marxist bigotry and you don't like it that people dare to disagree with you and so you laughingly call them "troll stars".
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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by EloquentThinker

For the love of God..

UKIP isn't kicking out anyone except illegals, then want to restrict immigration for a while.


Don't confuse him with facts. He is too busy building straw men.

Ukip surge to 18% in latest ICM poll

Ukip surge in polls unprecedented since creation of the SDP in 1981

UKIP in second place with 24% the vote in safe Labour seat

Quite simply, people are sick of the established political parties, the political correctness and all of the name calling.



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posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Wulfric

Originally posted by Ramcheck

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ramcheck
Please refer to your own signature.


The truth hurts.


The truth is that you are an intolerant left wing extremists who thinks he is right and that anyone who disagrees with him is evil.

God help us if bigots like you ever get any power beyond small rent a mobs.


edit on 17-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)


Okay thank you for your insight, Mystic Meg. I'll give you a 'Troll Star' just for turning up though.



I absolutely love the way that the popular opinion of ATS is that they are against your argument. These "troll stars" represent the opinion of ATS against your Marxist bigotry and you don't like it that people dare to disagree with you and so you laughingly call them "troll stars".
edit on 17-5-2013 by Wulfric because: (no reason given)


"Marxist Bigotry" now, that's fantastic well done, you can have a 'Troll Star' too.


While you're here though perhaps you could help me by pointing me to my 'Offending' posts?



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Ramcheck

Okay thank you for your insight, Mystic Meg. I'll give you a 'Troll Star' just for turning up though.


More name calling. Have you no inkling of how intolerant and bigoted you are of any opinion that differs from your own?

Quit the name calling already.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by Ramcheck

Okay thank you for your insight, Mystic Meg. I'll give you a 'Troll Star' just for turning up though.


More name calling. Have you no inkling of how intolerant and bigoted you are of any opinion that differs from your own?

Quit the name calling already.



Please try to remain on topic.



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