Holocaust Hoax Proof

Watch this and then tell me it was a hoax:-

reply to post by Natecoates


When I was going to college...in one of my math classes was an elderly man who had been in one of the concentration camps...I saw the number tattooed on the inside of his wrist...he one day came to class and showed to me an invitation by the (White House) for a ceremony...he was happy that so many who survived the concentration camps were being honored and acknowledged.

I got to know him...and we talked about his time in the concentration camp...the holocaust did happen.

Originally posted by jimmyx

I had a few relatives in WW2 that saw the camps in person, the holocaust was real

Very true. Some debate however about the size of the death toll.

For instance, the death toll at Auschwitz was originally 4 million (according to the Russians ChicagoTribune) but this has since been revised down to 1.3 million.

Auschwitz_concentration_camp

Interestingly, the 6 million figure has never been revised down.

People tend to assume that there are mountains of historical documents and scholarly research to justify the 6 million figure. The reality is that the figure was introduced by the American judge at the Nuremberg trials, who had apparently obtained it from an American Jewish organization before the trail.

What isn't in doubt is that the Nazis killed many, many civilians in WWII.

I feel we've been trolled.... That or the OP is scared to rebuttle anything of logical proof to his claim.

Haha I love where this thread is placed.

You know it's funny, anytime time you ever mention the holocaust maybe being more then meets the eye, you create social, political, and career suicide.

The thing is truth does not fear investigation. But the insanely weird part, (I think it's more insane then mass murder) is why people hold the original theory of what happened to be the absolute, god damn given truth. Why!? Why can't you just look at maybe BOTH sides and come up with your OWN conclusion!

Woahahaha! Not my own conclusion or thoughts, that's dangerous, call the thought police ma! I'm thinking again! Seriously, what is with this way of thinking! It's plaguing society, along with the fact that no one questions anything. And what's wrong with questioning exactly? Oh right I'm offending the families.

But answer me this. What's more honorable; seeking the truth and investigating no matter what happened and the circumstances, or taking the original theory of what happened, not questioning it, and accepting it to be the truth. Who's honoring the dead more? The ones that are questioning the actual events, or the ones that simply take his-story from a McGraw Hill textbook made for apes who can't question anything?

I can't wait to get flamed for this comment, just more and more proof how the human mind and condition has been completely altered to the point where people don't trust there own judgments anymore, they are taught to distrust there own judgments and there own thoughts.

It's straight out of 1984. Seriously, Orwell couldn't be anymore right! Look at double think for example. You see it everyday. The war on drugs. Central Banking in the United States.

End it with a nice Jim Morrison quote-

"People are strange."

reply to post by ollncasino

Very true on the murders of civilians like it was a sport. Actually, more like a systematic process. Sport would be how the Japanese went about it....with some Tokyo papers literally keeping score in side "games" during the mass slaughter at Nanking, China, on one example.

What bothers me more than anything, I suppose, is how the Jewish angle to the holocaust is used both as the greatest support and greatest pillar to attack...depending on who is speaking at a given time. They had a special thing for Jews, but that showed only in sheer number tallies. They tended to send anyone they didn't like or considered inferior to the camps. Mental "defectives", Homosexuals, Gypsies and even Nazi's who weren't Nazi enough for the Governments liking. So much more to the whole thing than some suggest by just saying "it didn't happen". Errr...

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by jimmyx

I had a few relatives in WW2 that saw the camps in person, the holocaust was real

Very true. Some debate however about the size of the death toll.

For instance, the death toll at Auschwitz was originally 4 million (according to the Russians if I am not mistaken) but this has since been revised down to 1.3 million.

Auschwitz_concentration_camp

Interestingly, the 6 million figure has never been revised down.

People tend to assume that there are mountains of historical documents and scholarly research to justify the 6 million figure. The reality is that the figure was introduced by the American judge at the Nuremberg trials, who had apparently obtained it from an American Jewish organization before the trail.

What isn't in doubt is that the Nazis killed many, many civilians in WWII.

edit on 16-5-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

That is exactly what I wanted to write, but 2many bears slowed me down lol.

The only thing that causes holocaust denial is some fabricated proof, exaggerate numbers
and little evidence of actual proof from the small amount of interviews that are in existance.

To me, its the same as looking for denial in the moon landings..

Well, I can tell everyone for a fact that 6 million jews were not gassed in WW2, and by best estimates around 3000,000 died within the camp system........But of course that number is based on crematoria burning multiple bodies at a time (As if that makes the process quicker) and then them running 24 hours per day.

The Nizkor Project

reply to post by Kang69

Originally posted by Kang69
But answer me this. What's more honorable; seeking the truth and investigating no matter what happened and the circumstances, or taking the original theory of what happened, not questioning it, and accepting it to be the truth. Who's honoring the dead more? The ones that are questioning the actual events, or the ones that simply take his-story from a McGraw Hill textbook made for apes who can't question anything?

I can't wait to get flamed for this comment, just more and more proof how the human mind and condition has been completely altered to the point where people don't trust there own judgments anymore, they are taught to distrust there own judgments and there own thoughts. It's straight out of 1984.

KILLER post dude...

Would make for an excellent thread topic as well.

Originally posted by Natecoates
I was a disbaliver for a long time and swore on everything that the holocaust was real but today one of fellow theorist showed me a site it completely changed my mind about it I said i was sorry to my friend that I argued with for days on the topic. I think that everyone should at least read the first section of this and i thank you ats.

www.biblebelievers.org.au...

Unchange it Hydrogen Cyanide evaporates at the temprature of 78.6 degrees.This is why it could be used as a delousing agent in barracks for example as long as it evaporates its perfectly safe to touch walls or clothes since no residue is left behind.In fact if there was I'd be calling foul and saying someone was trying to set them up to make it look like they used cyanide and screwed up. As far as the expert he's a joke with hydrogen cyanide as long as your outside the building your fine as I said it was even used to delouse living quaters to prevent the spread of typhoid no seals required as long as you are out side just don't enter the building until your sure it evaporated.

Originally pested by AngryCymraeg
reply to post by billdadobbie

 

Please, please, do some basic research on this. And by the way the ground penetrating radar at Treblinka showed up mass graves.

Edit: to be precise, mass graves made up of ashes.

edit on 16-5-2013 by AngryCymraeg because: (no reason given)

in 1999 richard krege did a 3 week study at treblinka and belzec down to 30 meters and core samples showed no ash the ground had not been disturbed ??

....I uh..... hmmmmmm....

....well....y'see............uh.....

Lets play devils advocate (Although I highly doubt, HIGHLY doubt)

What would of been Hitlers motive to fake a genocide?

He states he wanted 1 supreme race.

You have the footage and concentration camps

The people who have the numbers tattooed on their wrists.

What is the point of making it a hoax?

What did he gain from faking a mass genocide?

Hummm, well according to the serial number on my great uncles arm, it was real

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Hummm, well according to the serial number on my great uncles arm, it was real

I've never understood this logic......Your great uncle is alive.......How is that proof of a holocaust ?

reply to post by Natecoates


My dad was there; he helped clean up the bodies. It was real!

reply to post by Natecoates


Since "finding a site" is what makes you decide on what is true and what is not, read this too:
Maybe it did happen, after all..

How would you respond to this?

I worked as an EMT down in Florida, and a few patients I had to treat had faded tattooes with a string of numbers, I guess they decide to just do that themselves.
OP youre an idiot

I scan read the paragraphs and the speculations presented are so full of holes you could sew them together to make a net

Even a child could see the nonsense in the statements... for example..

"No bodies were found".... no, they were all burnt!!

I'd still like to know what the benefit would be of faking a mass genocide?