Originally posted by ImpactoR
reply to post by ForteanOrg
You are not making a difference between 'We have no proof' and 'Authorities for classified information do not give us proof' - there is no need
for further proof that there is classified information about UFOs and possible encounters, it has already been proven that there is hidden information
and more hidden information is kept.
Indeed, we have classified data and there are strict rules to access it. You will need both clearance
AND a need to know
certain types of information. But the reasons we have classification etc. does not involve some dark black scheme to keep UFO data
intentionally away from us. Most of the classified data is BORING and very down-to-earth stuff. But potential enemies of the state might still use it
to harm the state. That's why it is classified.
The mere appearance of a UFO is NOT a reason to classify data on it.
There are many reports from governmental organisations on UFO's and they
are not classified at all. But if the UFO appears over a nuclear silo, for example, it is because information about that silo (it's location, the way
it is guarded and operated etc.) is classified that makes the entire report classified too. And if they get a FOIA request for the data, they will
comply, but will invariably black out all stuff that does not relate to the UFO appearance to prevent potential enemies of the state to acces
classified (non-UFO related..) data. It's as simple as that, no "black government" or nonsense like that. Believe it or not, but they do this to
So, yes, UFO data is sometimes hidden in classified reports. There may be classified reports that contain descriptions of phenomena that are puzzling
to the authorities too - say, that some soldier encountered a 'thing' - being, entity. Now, because the authorities don't have a friggin' idea
what it is that soldier saw - it might have been a NK spy for all we know, maybe somebody invented a device to change the consciousness of people,
maybe the soldier was drugged etc. etc. - the data may initially be overclassified. It is a lot easier to degrade (declassify) data than to classify
something that is out in the open already. It really IS as simple as that.
Just because you do not have the proof, does not mean it may not be there, in someone's hands. Of course that leaves the situation to maybe this or
that, nothing of the two is certain.
It is clear that if cases continue to be - some light balls often times unclear and could be anything explainable - that won't do progress. If for
once something flew over a city and many people saw that, recorded it, saw an actual craft not just light in the sky, made closeup photos and clips,
it is then when people will raise to their governments and say - Wait a minute, there is something there, you cannot give us some silly explanation,
we demand to know what we just saw...
Well, that's the problem indeed: blurry, easily misinterpreted images even when there were thousands of witnesses. I don't think there are many
people left still doubting the phenomenon - but what it is is totally unclear yet. But I'm equally sure that our governments don't know either. The
British Govenment even said so and because all the requests to release UFO information were costly and the data was not conclusive and certainly not
something that pointed toward a threat of national security, they released most of it. Most of it, because - again - some of the data contained
non-UFO related secret data that WILL be dangerous in the hands of our enemies.
But yeah, I sometimes wonder how come some closeup of beings and pictures never slipped between the secrecy, there were some but still nothing
was proven real.
There are various pictures known of ghosts, for example. We clearlly see the 'ghost', but does that prove that ghosts are the souls of the departed
and that they come back to haunt us? Nope, we have a pattern of light and shadow, that look like a human to us and should not be there. Something is
going on, but we do not know WHAT. And because we can't live with that, we make up explanations. It's the same with (not faked) imagery of UFO's,
aliens and stuff like that: we know there is something going on, but not WHAT is going on. Not even our governments, I'm afraid.
We tend to see the world as a big family, and like to think there are others that know and could tell us. Probably something we experienced when we
were young: our parents, our teachers, they all were in the know and we expected them to teach us, tell us. Well, we aren't children anymore, our
'parents' (the governments) are just as puzzled as we are. We must face it: the only way out of this mess is proper, decent investigation.