Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

Originally posted by Xaphan

Originally posted by RothchildRancor
Men who aren't physically strong are pointless.

This might have been the case a few thousand years ago, but in case you haven't noticed, evolution has rendered intelligence more important than brute strength. Some of the world's smartest people are weak little runts, yet they have made the biggest difference to this planet. They don't need excess strength because if they feel threatened by someone, they can just hire evolution's leftovers to take care of it for them lol.

I'm not saying it's bad to be strong. I have a considerable amount of physical strength. But in today's world I hardly have any use for it. Intelligence is much more important.

Having any notable amount of physical strength does not limit the intelligence of the individual either.

An intelligent strong person is capable of way more than those who aren't.

People who can't help it like Stephen Hawking are way more capable of contributing to the advancement of the human race, but a master engineer who is also as strong as an ax has the capabilities of some pretty incredible achievements.

So why buy in to the whole muscles make you stupid campaign?

reply to post by newcovenant


i think of the left/ right paradigm as chu province in china 2000 years ago you know malevolent, large numbers, greedy and people outside of it as wu province 2000 years ago you know not very many numbers, strategic, the underdog, and benevolent. dude don't fall into the paradigm. they are both cults of personality, there are fake left and right people in power, the powers that be want as much confusion and fighting to conquer and divide a nation so they can perpetuate the chicken egg argument 2.0

reply to post by ANOK


How ironic that history has shown you, and socialism to be not only wrong, but that implementing socialism and communism only leads to dictatorships EVERY TIME it has been tried...

The "labour" movement was, and is all about control, just like socialism and communism. To control the poor and many in the middle class with lies and deception...

To this day the "labour" movement has leaders, if you want to be a labour member you have to do what they tell you to do, you have to pay all their fees, and you have to be a leftwinger, or at least agree with their goals with no exception...

Labour has been, and is about controlling the people, plain and simple...

You have lied through your teeth in these forums for a long time about socialism, and have gone so far as to idolize in these same forums massacres done by leftwingers such as the "RED TERROR" of Spain in which up to 72,342 people were massacred by leftwingers for being religious, and for being capitalists... Almost 7,000 of those people were priests, nuns etc, not to mention the destruction this "RED TERROR" brought to Spain in a couple of months or so during the summer of 1936 in Spain...

en.wikipedia.org...(Spain)

There have been other similar "RED TERROR" conducted by other leftwingers all over the world.

No matter how many lies you try to tell here, you will NEVER be able to debunk the fact that socialism/communism ALWAYS lead to dictatorship, hardship and death for the same people you claim to represent...

Originally posted by ANOK
Really?

Are Anarchists power hungry? Wouldn't that be a bit of a contradiction?

Those people in power are not left-wing, they are power hungry authoritarians, just like ALL politicians, right or "left". The left in politics now is really not left-wing at all, it's liberal right wing. You have all been conditioned to support the right wing, which is historically the establishment.

They change their spots whenever they think it will gain them more power.
...

Yet wrong again...

It has been proven in these forums that the elite in America, England, and other nations funded the "REVOLUTION" in Russia...

To the elites leftwing ideology is how they get in power, by making the people believe that the people are giving power to themselves by giving more power to the government/state... But of course they don't call it government, it is called "the worker's revolution", although it is the same thing. It is just a small bunch of people claiming to represent the poor, and the low middle classes meanwhile in fact the only thing that matters to those in power is power itself... This is why in socialism/communism what matters most is the revolution itself...

Under socialism/communism it is claimed that the people own and control the means of production, but this is ANOTHER LIE, since under socialism and communism "private property" is ABOLISHED... Since you can't own anything, more so the means of production, the people in general DO NOT control the means of production, only those in power CLAIMING to represent the people are in power and control everything... Hence why EVERY TIME socialism and or communism has been implemented they become DICTATORSHIPS...

After all, "the need of the many outweight the needs of the few, or the one" right?... what this actually means, despite sounding great, is that the rights of the individual don't matter in comparison to the collective, hence in the name of "the good of the collective" individual rights are abolished and non-existant under socialism and communism...

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by ANOK

 

How ironic that history has shown you, and socialism to be not only wrong, but that implementing socialism and communism only leads to dictatorships EVERY TIME it has been tried...

The "labour" movement was, and is all about control, just like socialism and communism. To control the poor and many in the middle class with lies and deception...

To this day the "labour" movement has leaders, if you want to be a labour member you have to do what they tell you to do, you have to pay all their fees, and you have to be a leftwinger, or at least agree with their goals with no exception...

Labour has been, and is about controlling the people, plain and simple...

You have lied through your teeth in these forums for a long time about socialism, and have gone so far as to idolize in these same forums massacres done by leftwingers such as the "RED TERROR" of Spain in which up to 72,342 people were massacred by leftwingers for being religious, and for being capitalists... Almost 7,000 of those people were priests, nuns etc, not to mention the destruction this "RED TERROR" brought to Spain in a couple of months or so during the summer of 1936 in Spain...

en.wikipedia.org...(Spain)

There have been other similar "RED TERROR" conducted by other leftwingers all over the world.

No matter how many lies you try to tell here, you will NEVER be able to debunk the fact that socialism/communism ALWAYS lead to dictatorship, hardship and death for the same people you claim to represent...

edit on 24-5-2013 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

I don't know...Denmark is doing pretty good with something like it...It's leading to happy people.

In Denmark, social policy in areas like health care, child care, education and protecting the unemployed are part of a "solidarity system" that makes sure that almost no one falls into economic despair.


Danes pay very high taxes, but in return enjoy a quality of life that many Americans would find hard to believe. As the ambassador mentioned, while it is difficult to become very rich in Denmark no one is allowed to be poor.

Keep in mind all "people friendly" social policies are not socialism.
Here in the US, under our Capitalist system, Corporations just attained personhood. What is that, if not a move toward Industry taking precedence over people?

The minimum wage in Denmark is about twice that of the United States and people who are totally out of the labor market or unable to care for themselves have a basic income guarantee of about $100 per day.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

Today in the United States there is a massive amount of economic anxiety. Unemployment is much too high, wages and income are too low, millions of Americans are struggling to find affordable health care and the gap between the very rich and everyone else is growing wider.

While young working families search desperately for affordable child care, older Americans worry about how they can retire with dignity. Many of our people are physically exhausted as they work the longest hours of any industrialized country and have far less paid vacation time than other major countries.

At a time when college education in the United States is increasingly unaffordable and the average college graduate leaves school more than $25,000 in debt, virtually all higher education in Denmark is free. That includes not just college but graduate schools as well, including medical school.

When it comes to raising families, Danes understand that the first few years of a person's life are the most important in terms of intellectual and emotional development. In order to give strong support to expecting parents, mothers get four weeks of paid leave before giving birth. They get another 14 weeks afterward.

Denmark is doing great with a form of socialism that includes high taxes.

Why are we (effectively) biting off our nose to spite our face for? If this is Democracy - I'm willing to trade it in for something that works for the PEOPLE. Not for the Kings, Nobility, Elite, Rich, Corporate Giants etc same old same old because we are getting screwed in this shell game called the stock market and (winner take all) free market capitalism.

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse


The "labour" movement was, and is all about control, just like socialism and communism. To control the poor and many in the middle class with lies and deception...

To this day the "labour" movement has leaders, if you want to be a labour member you have to do what they tell you to do, you have to pay all their fees, and you have to be a leftwinger, or at least agree with their goals with no exception...

Labour has been, and is about controlling the people, plain and simple...

I'm calling ideological BS....

I know that without my union [SAG-AFTRA]; I would have no health insurance, retirement, recourse if hurt on the job or fair pay for my education and skill. I consider my union dues to be a bargain for what they provide.

When the controlling corporations cut back or eliminate benefits for their employees and lower wages because of trumped up "budget constraints"..... They will wish to God they had a union!!!

so again with this whole psysically strong crap. me i have enough strength to get done what i need done. you think the whole left right paradigm is worth anything to me? this is my life this is my fuching life why should anyone anywhere have say in what i do anyway? they're not seeing through my eyes and if they did they wouldn't mistreat anybody. but on goes the confusion that both aren't one in the same praying on anybody who wants to get rich. you buy into the paradigm and what? free cookies and punch for going to the party events.

Originally posted by newcovenant

I don't know...Denmark is doing pretty good with something like it...It's leading to happy people.

Unless private property is abolished, or controlled by the state it is not a form of socialism. As for taxes, I would like to know the exact percentage they pay

As for the "rich in the U.S.", if you would read the history of these people, they became rich, and powerful because of "progressivism" and leftwing ideology. Heck, it has been shown in these forums that these rightwing and also leftwing rich elites backed "revolutions" such as the "Russian red revolution"...

For those that don't know, if you would read the history of progressivism you would find that many who were, and are "rightwing" backed "progressivism and were part of it. Not to mention that leftwing policies such as the Federal Reserve, and the IRS, among others, have been the cause of the economic problems in the U.S.

You should be asking yourselves why the "progressive movement" has included many people rich and in power who were/are "neo-cons" and even "rightwing"...