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"No, it was a human thing. You should not insult the brutes by such a misuse of that word; they have not deserved it," and he went on talking like that. "It is like your paltry race—always lying, always claiming virtues which it hasn't got, always denying them to the higher animals, which alone possess them. No brute ever does a cruel thing—that is the monopoly of those with the Moral Sense. When a brute inflicts pain he does it innocently; it is not wrong; for him there is no such thing as wrong. And he does not inflict pain for the pleasure of inflicting it—only man does that. Inspired by that mongrel Moral Sense of his! A sense whose function is to distinguish between right and wrong, with liberty to choose which of them he will do. Now what advantage can he get out of that? He is always choosing, and in nine cases out of ten he prefers the wrong. There shouldn't be any wrong; and without the Moral Sense there couldn't be any. And yet he is such an unreasoning creature that he is not able to perceive that the Moral Sense degrades him to the bottom layer of animated beings and is a shameful possession. Are you feeling better? Let me show you something."
Originally posted by lampsalot
I love animals as much as the next person, but don't be fooled. Many animals kill for fun, eat their children, go to war, rape, and do just about everything we consider criminal and evil. The difference I think is that (most?) animals do not dwell on grudges and take revenge, they simply live life as it is.
They are indeed smart but they aren't morally better or worse than we are.edit on 17-5-2013 by lampsalot because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Mads1987
reply to post by FreedomEntered
Actually, there was just recently a case in my country, Denmark, where a rhino in a safari-Zoo killed a pregnant zebra. The animal keeper said, that the zebra had bullied the rhino back when it was a child.
Usually I would have agreed that animals aren't inherently vindictive, unless they are traumatized by humans, but this case gave me doubt.edit on 06/06/12 by Mads1987 because: (no reason given)