Should Obama consider resignation?

reply to post by Flatfish


Why do you choose to use inaccurate information from Huffington, CSMonitor and Dailykos. When you should go to the real source of the information at the US State Department website. I believe you will find that the budget for the State Department has significantly been increased every year that the BO has been in office. State Dept is responsible for security at all embassies. Plus, BO has not had a budget since being in office so how could spending be cut? I guess that little fact does not fit your continuation of the Democrats BS to the world. Your information is as skewed as all the politicians in Washington DC. OB is Teflon and he will turn this disaster into another way to suck an additional dollar out of our pockets. That is the bottom line.

reply to post by rgzing


Problem is this.

There is no checks and balances for this President.

He is above the law.

Originally posted by votan


Even if his party thought he was toxic they would not let him hurt the party.. and the party is what it is all about eff the country.

Nailed it actually.

I think America is waking up to Obama.

reply to post by hellobruce


Keep your racist rants to your self. You senseless libs think America hates Obummer cuz he's black. How stupid are you? People hate Obama because he is a scab on society. Get real maybe your head resides in the same place as Obama's.
The post is about if Obama-tard should resign or not. The easy answer is yes his corruption is deeper than his skin it goes to the very core.
This joker has two claims to fame. He has spent more money than all the presidents combined and he has also prosecuted more whistle blowers than all of the presidents combined. Punish those who tell the truth that is who this bozo is. If you think there is room for you in his perfect world then you are dumber than he is.
The New York Times reported in 2011:
In President Obama’s 26 months in office, civilian and military prosecutors have charged five people in cases involving leaking information, more than all previous presidents combined.
The only time you want to shut someone up is when you yourself have something to hide. These scandals are only scratching the surface of Obama's corruption.

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by rgzing

 

Problem is this.

There is no checks and balances for this President.

He is above the law.

Ain't that the damn truth, and when they try they get 'blamed'.

Originally posted by neo96

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by rgzing

 

Problem is this.

There is no checks and balances for this President.

He is above the law.

Ain't that the damn truth, and when they try they get 'blamed'.

Look, I want this Country on the right path. All I have seen is Lies, and BS, from this President. He deflected today again. Its obvious that if any one had balls in Congress they would do the right thing, and start the process to get him out.

Some of these occurrences were not the direct responsibility of Obama. If one looks back through history, especially after WWII until now, they will find various administrations shrouded in happenings like we are seeing today. But since times are changing, and the government is changing for the worse, people suddenly want answers. They want to know what is going on, as they are not as apt to take the government's word for it. I mentioned in an earlier thread about the fact that Clinton and Obama were both attacked by the citizenry for their actions, while Bush received very little fallout from his blatant lying and the war he singlehandedly started, based on information he knew to be false. Yet the public outcry and media outcry was nowhere near what we are seeing now. Times have not changed that much in the short time between these presidents.

This leads me to conclude this is a political war, going on behind the scenes, and it is the Republican party who is really getting its hands dirty in various areas. This is because the public outcry for resignation or impeachment has never been so great in recent times for a Republican president as it has been for Democratic candidates. So should Obama resign? Why? None of his predecessors, who have done many of the same types of things, have resigned recently. We have to go back quite a ways to find this happening.

The problem is not the president, and this is something people need to learn. The president is getting too powerful, but that still is not the main problem. The main problem is what goes on behind the scenes. The political lobbying by corporations. It is the corporations that stand to make millions of dollars from defense-related industries who push for military action overseas. They push for conflict and government contracts, and who knows what lengths they will go to when attempting to convince politicians to join their side, their evil cause? And this type of lobbying and these secret relationships occur in the depths of secret organizations within the government, like the NSA, CIA, DHS, etc. It is all about money in one way or another.

The people think they have things figured out, but it usually goes much deeper, and involves more people, and is about more than the people could ever imagine. So even those who know there is a conspiracy afoot probably cannot fathom the inner-workings of the conspiracy itself. And this is the case for a reason. The inter-connectedness of various government agencies, corporations, and other groups is staggering. It is all big game, more or less, to many of those behind the scenes. What we need is more transparency, and to get corporations out of the government. We need to stop the lobbying, and we need to enforce conflict of interest laws, and establish better ones. There are many other things that need to be changed as well, and I have outlined some of my ideas in previous posts on ATS.

Why would The President even resign? He's going to stay put. Ridiculous thinking the President would resign.

Why would the president resign?

He has other people do that for him..

Remember, there are even people there willing to take a bullet to protect the president.

So, resigning for the president is no big deal.

First thing a president does, when getting into office, is establish a whole queue of fall guys.

Some willing to take the bullet, others willing to take the blame.

Whenever there's trouble, the president just goes into a secret room, and casts lots to select the next victim.

Then he pulls that one out of the queue, gives him a private pep talk on how he appreciates his great service to the homeland, gives him the usual speech that this action "Protects the Presidency, and not the President", and then sends him out to be crucified in public.

The public gets their fall guy, and go away satisfied.

President remains in office. And all the other queue members think to themselves "The Presidency is saved."

He should consider it.

Especially if his top advisers inform him that an impeachment is imminent.

In a resignation he can accept responsibility, and say that the buck stops with him, then give a long speech about whatever he wants, he can leave on his terms not theirs.

It would be far better in the long run than what an impeachment of this particular president could do to this country...

He has choices, and IF all of this heads in that direction he can take the high road into the sunset and into a lucrative private life, or drag this country down with him.

Of course, time is relative here, so maybe nothing will happen and he will fulfill his destiny, and finish his term.

We'll see...

Originally posted by hellobruce

Originally posted by Patriotsrevenge
Obama should be Executed for High Treason let alone be jailed.

So no trial, just a lynching. Apart from the fact there is no such law as "high treason", nor does treason carry the death penalty you just want him lynched. Hatred of a black man is very strong in you!

This is absolutely disgusting and a cheap shot. Many who voted for Obama in the first election (like me) were horrified as he systematically eviscerated our civil rights, exceeding the Bush Boys' damage.

"We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately."
- Benjamin Franklin at the signing of the Declaration of Independence

Originally posted by ausername
He should consider it.

Especially if his top advisers inform him that an impeachment is imminent.

In a resignation he can accept responsibility, and say that the buck stops with him, then give a long speech about whatever he wants, he can leave on his terms not theirs.

It would be far better in the long run than what an impeachment of this particular president could do to this country...

He has choices, and IF all of this heads in that direction he can take the high road into the sunset and into a lucrative private life, or drag this country down with him.

Of course, time is relative here, so maybe nothing will happen and he will fulfill his destiny, and finish his term.

We'll see...

edit on 16-5-2013 by ausername because: (no reason given)

Very nice post!

Its exactly what Im thinking, actually.

Originally posted by ausername
He should consider it.

Especially if his top advisers inform him that an impeachment is imminent.

In a resignation he can accept responsibility, and say that the buck stops with him, then give a long speech about whatever he wants, he can leave on his terms not theirs.

It would be far better in the long run than what an impeachment of this particular president could do to this country...

He has choices, and IF all of this heads in that direction he can take the high road into the sunset and into a lucrative private life, or drag this country down with him.

Of course, time is relative here, so maybe nothing will happen and he will fulfill his destiny, and finish his term.

We'll see...

edit on 16-5-2013 by ausername because: (no reason given)

Why should Obama fear an impeachment? An impeachment is simply an accusation, and it has to be for "high crimes"...which so far the Republicans can't claim.

But after the House would file an Impeachment, it would be up to the Senate to find him guilty or not, they need a 2/3rds vote for that...and that is not going to happen.

Originally posted by flobot

Why should Obama fear an impeachment? An impeachment is simply an accusation, and it has to be for "high crimes"...which so far the Republicans can't claim.

Obama has nothing to fear at the moment, and he enjoys a kind of protection and immunity that few humans have ever known.

That said, there have been a lot of scandals developing and many traps set, all it would take is one piece of evidence tying the white house to it and from there anything is possible.

If it remains confined to the patsies they have now, and the president can maintain his "I didn't know" denials then he may avoid it, but the odds are that this president will take the fall one way or the other.

He can choose how that plays out, and he can make it really bad for everyone, or only bad for a few.

I would not rule out impeachment here.

Of course, none of this will matter to the vast herds of sheep out there that will remain oblivious to the bitter end.

There is a hell of a lot of smoke here people, maybe there really is a fire?

Resign? He should be impeached and tried for treason and if convicted, promptly executed via firing squad. Lets not forget NDAA and assasinating american citizens over seas without dueprocess (the scumbag Anwar Al' Awlaki) and yeah, Eric Holder should go down in flames with him over Fast and Furious, in which fully automatic assault weapons were sold to the mexican drug cartels, which are now being used to murder american citizens in Pheonix/Tuscon AZ.

Obama would have to be directly connected to the IRS one to even try and bring something against him. The AP one is the DoJ and chasing people leaking classified info. Maybe they went overboard but, thats not exactly illegal. Bengazi after more invesitgations than I can count has come up with nothing outside of a debate among agencies on verbage. So while Obama was in charge while they occured he is not really connected. The IRS one on the other hand could be ineresting if someone was to claim Obama ordered them to do it. So far nobody has made this claim. Of course the IRS focusing on groups that exist to avoid taxes does not seem all that suprising it certainly does not look good. Of course the reality seems to be nobody cares outside of the taking heads. Kind of like President Clintons problems in office because the economy is doing well and the wars are all but, over Americans seem to not care about scandals that just do not seem all that exciting. Unless some kind of smoking guns appears these things will be fodder for the press and the talking heads and nobody else will much care. If the IRS targets had been churches or traditional GOP institutions maybe people would be more upset but, since the Tea Party is seen by most Amricans as collection crazy people nobody really seems to care.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Resign? He should be impeached and tried for treason and if convicted, promptly executed via firing squad.

Even IF that is possible... An impeachment process for this particular president would be bad for this country in many ways, possibly worse than you can imagine.

No one wants to see him stripped of his powers as soon as possible, more than I do... But it must be done with several considerations in mind... Resignation would be the preferable outcome here.

IF impeachment proceedings are set to begin.

IMO

What does it matter if he resigns?

Capitalist government will still be capitalist. Nothing is going to change.

Originally posted by WaterBottle
What does it matter if he resigns?

Capitalist government will still be capitalist. Nothing is going to change.

You'd rather have full blown totalitarian communism?

Originally posted by ausername

Originally posted by WaterBottle
What does it matter if he resigns?

Capitalist government will still be capitalist. Nothing is going to change.

You'd rather have full blown totalitarian communism?

Agree.

He has carte blanche with our Government !

He has handpicked people who will cover for him also.