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Originally posted by FlyersFan
The Obama administration is in total meltdown with lie after lie and coverup after coverup coming unraveled ... and yet I just turned on MSNBC and they were still being Obama cheerleaders.
The entire administration and all the minions .. Holder being chief minion ... need to be flushed.
Originally posted by jimmyx
by the way, have any of you actually read the law that show the IRS was doing it's job?
and maybe, just maybe, they were following the law. ......
Originally posted by jimmyx
so....if we don't believe what you say ...
UPDATE: Jack Langer, Rep. Nunes's communications director, emails this clarification:
I wanted to make a clarification for your article. What Rep. Nunes meant by “tapped” was that the DOJ seized the phone records, as has been widely reported. There was a little confusion between him and the host during the conversation: He did not mean to refer to phone records of the cloakroom itself, but of the Capitol. This refers to the phone records from the AP’s desk in the press gallery, which the DOJ admitted to looking at. He was explaining that if those phone records were seized, they would reveal a lot of conversations between the press and members of Congress, since reporters often speak to Members from the press gallery phones. The notion of the DOJ looking at phone records from the Capitol of conversations between Members of Congress and reporters is something that concerns Rep. Nunes, bringing up issues related to the separation of powers.
Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by dreamingawake
can we say abuse of power boys and girls?
looks like we finally have a real scandal.
Originally posted by roadgravel
Tapped is a bigger issue than just getting phone number logs. Wonder if 'tapped' is the correct term for what happened. If true, this might get ugly. The only out would be if some in Congress have something to hide.
According to the Associated Press, the letter it received from the Department of Justice alerting it to the subpoena of phone records was sweeping, but not that sweeping. Justice accessed phone records for AP offices, several reporters, and "the main number for the AP in the House of Representatives press gallery." Those records likely included incoming and outgoing phone numbers as well as the call's duration. In other words, there's no indication that the Department of Justice wiretapped anything, which, as anyone who has seen television in the past fifteen years knows, involves listening in on telephone conversations. If someone got ahold of your cell phone bill, you have not been "wiretapped."
Nor is there any evidence that Justice accessed those records for the cloakroom. The cloakrooms, as explained by C-SPAN, are private, members-only areas just off the floors of the House and Senate. The press gallery, the area for which the Department of Justice accessed phone data for one line (that of the AP), is another room entirely. (With its own website.) There are phones in the cloakroom, but there's no evidence, besides Nunes' comments, that Justice accessed them — or even that it would have been helpful to.
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by creatives
None of it good, involving this President, and his Administration.
I think if Holder goes, He takes Obama down with him. There has to be more to it all, then what has transpired so far. I think Holder knows many secrets.
Originally posted by darkbake
So... going to all this trouble to tap AP phone records and even this room? And we still don't know what they were trying to prevent being leaked?
Rep. Nune’s director of communications, Jack Langer, clarified the congressman’s comments Thursday morning:
What Rep. Nunes meant by “tapped” was that the DOJ seized the phone records, as has been widely reported. There was a little confusion between him and the host during the conversation: He did not mean to refer to phone records of the cloakroom itself, but of the Capitol. This refers to the phone records for the AP from the House press gallery, which the DOJ admitted to looking at.
Originally posted by Flatfish
Actually, there's quite a bit of information out there regarding the leak. From what I've read, it was a leak about a secret special ops mission, that was ongoing at the time, involving not just American special forces but also some allied special forces. The mission was to thwart a terrorist attempt to place a bomb on a plane destined for the U.S. and is was happening in Yemen. Supposedly, one of the American special forces guy's name was actually leaked to the A.P. reporter.