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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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TruthLover557

Other than this issue, I would just like to know the other pertinent facts of the case that the investigators are withholding, such as: Did she or did she not have clothes on her body when she was found? Is there any record whatsoever of someone seeing her with anyone else at all and what on earth did her phone records indicate? Did she or her parents have any traceable knowledge of the Cecil Hotel and the area of skid row prior to her stay, or did she perhaps look for the first hotel she could find to get off the street after she got off a bus in skid row? Really, truly, what was the deal with the freaking elevator? Did it normally operate in such erratic fashion or not? All efforts made so far by anyone who knows or could know answers to any of these glaring questions have proven to be unsuccessful.


These are definitely questions I have as well, compounded by the possibility of tampered security footage (recorded in the most prehistoric resolution, I might add).
Most hotels do not simply have a camera inside the elevator, and nowhere else. Where is the lobby footage? The hallway footage? I guess a great starting point would be to go to the Hotel Cecil itself and check out how many cameras are actually operating.

Context is another thing missing from this case. What exactly was Elisa doing in that part of town? Where are her friends/relatives? Was she in contact with anyone while in that area? Did she notify any of her friends that she was heading off? Was she an actual customer of the hotel i.e. staying the night there? If so, surely the police would have investigated her room and looked for any clues as to her intentions.

In regards to the erratic behaviour of the elevator, it almost seems like the elevator itself was jammed or prevented from closing and changing floors remotely (either by the lobby, or some sort of emergency stop was applied to it). Seeing as we don't have footage from the outside of the elevator in the hall, we also cannot rule out the possibility of a suspect standing outside the elevator pressing a button to stop it from moving. There are certain scenes in the video where Elisa does seem to be pleading or reasoning with someone outside the elevator - an angle we cannot see.

The more time passes, the more I feel these questions are getting further away from being answered.




posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:37 AM
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I can answer a few of your questions. Elisa was a guest who stayed overnight in the hotel. Her friends and relatives were in Canada, where she also lived. Elisa arrived in LA as a tourist on January 26 and planned to later travel to Santa Cruz by bus. She spoke by phone to her parents every day (5 days) she was in LA until she disappeared.




Most hotels do not simply have a camera inside the elevator, and nowhere else. Where is the lobby footage? The hallway footage? I guess a great starting point would be to go to the Hotel Cecil itself and check out how many cameras are actually operating.


The official investigators in this case obtained every bit of security footage taken at that hotel. If that footage showed the hallways, lobby, etc. they looked at it. They alone had the authority and option to release the security footage obtained as evidence in their investigation and they alone chose to release only the footage we saw. These investigators have shown absolutely no interest in explaining any portion of their investigation to the public. So if you had an opportunity to ask them what was depicted in other footage throughout the hotel, they would without a doubt say, "We will make no comments as this investigation is ongoing." They say this all the time.

I assure you the police have answers to all of our questions, but for reasons completely unknown to us, they will not provide these answers. I'd consider myself to be pretty well-read when it comes to material that details criminal investigations and I used to be a newspaper reporter who covered all aspects of city and county law-enforcement activities. While I am no expert, I can say confidently that the law-enforcement agency in charge of this investigation has veered completely off the path of normal procedure in regard to its interaction with the public.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 04:29 AM
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I assure you the police have answers to all of our questions, but for reasons completely unknown to us, they will not provide these answers. I'd consider myself to be pretty well-read when it comes to material that details criminal investigations and I used to be a newspaper reporter who covered all aspects of city and county law-enforcement activities. While I am no expert, I can say confidently that the law-enforcement agency in charge of this investigation has veered completely off the path of normal procedure in regard to its interaction with the public.


I agree with you, but it just raises more hairy questions. What would be the reason for police and investigators to act so suspiciously, dodging the finer details?

Unfortunately, all I can possibly think of is some sort of order from the higher ups to no longer divulge any details because it would possibly incriminate or expose something bigger than her death.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 06:03 AM
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i saw the vid of her in the lift.

creepy as hell.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Sorry Mikeultra, but I just don't follow your thinking on this. If you've read my previous posts in this thread, I'm way over the TB discussion as it relates to the Elisa Lam case. Perhaps there are others here who still want to talk about that, but I definitely do not. Elisa Lam lived her life and lost her life well before February 17, 2013, so what on earth does this Facebook page called Lam Elisa have to do with her?!

In addition, if you click on "The Cecil Secret Project" within your posted vimeo videos, you will find a woman named Cecil Secret saying, "The idea of this art project is to create little short films for no better reason but to make short little films I can upload with my phone." I can't tell for sure but this sort of stuff makes it look like you're purposefully trying to derail this thread by posting a bunch of nonsense. The name of the IT guy in the office where I work is Cecil. But I don't suspect whatever he's doing in his freetime online is in any way related to the Cecil Hotel Water tank in which Elisa Lam's dead body was found. Get my drift?

So Elisa Lam posted an interesting science news article about a company working on invisibility cloaks? What could that possibly have to do with her death. Say I posted an article on my Twitter page about the use of the new Bitcoins, then passed away suddenly. Would you then claim the creator of Bitcoins must have been behind my death some how? I mean what you're doing here is no different in my opinion.




Now consider how outnumbered the U.S. and South Korean forces are there, and think about this invisibility technology. Read the below excerpt from the Huffington Post Canada article mentioning that the technology can be also be applied to vehicles including tanks. If this technology is for real, think of the advantage that would give to forces who are greatly out-numbered.


Whatever you're getting at with this statement is so far off topic I'm really at a loss for words...


I had to come back and respond to this post of yours. You told me that the "The Cecil Secret Project" Vimeo videos that were posted by a woman claiming to be named Cecil Secret are nothing to consider and not related to the Elisa Lam case. So I took a further look into it. I don't think there's a woman really named Cecil Secret. I told you that I found links for those videos on the Lam Elisa Facebook page that was only up for one day, February 17, 2013. If you'll take the time and look at the one follower of Cecil Secret on "her" Vimeo page, you will find it is "Ashes Wednesday", an "artist" living in Los Angeles who also happens to have a most disturbing video titled "Suspension Under A Bridge". That is filmed under the same bridge as the other video. Take a real close look at these people and what they are doing. Normal people? I think you should reconsider your very quick dismissal of them as irrelevant to this case. You think whoever created the Lam Elisa Facebook page just chose that name out of thin air? WARNING VIDEO IS DISTURBING!
vimeo.com...
Here is a screen capture showing "Cecil Secret" Vimeo page with follower "Ashes Wednesday" circled in red.




posted on Nov, 27 2013 @ 02:38 AM
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I'm keeping an open mind, but unfortunately, I fail to see the correlation between the person's account and video and Elisa Lam...

The video shows people doing some BDSM/pain threshold stuff, but that is not really "disturbing" - in fact, a few of my friends practice this stuff and they're regular people.

Other than the name of the account "Cecil Secret", I don't find any relevance to the Elisa Lam case.

Perhaps you could elaborate on WHY this connection you made is noteworthy?



posted on Nov, 28 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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I had to come back and respond to this post of yours. You told me that the "The Cecil Secret Project" Vimeo videos that were posted by a woman claiming to be named Cecil Secret are nothing to consider and not related to the Elisa Lam case. So I took a further look into it. I don't think there's a woman really named Cecil Secret. I told you that I found links for those videos on the Lam Elisa Facebook page that was only up for one day, February 17, 2013. If you'll take the time and look at the one follower of Cecil Secret on "her" Vimeo page, you will find it is "Ashes Wednesday", an "artist" living in Los Angeles who also happens to have a most disturbing video titled "Suspension Under A Bridge". That is filmed under the same bridge as the other video. Take a real close look at these people and what they are doing. Normal people? I think you should reconsider your very quick dismissal of them as irrelevant to this case. You think whoever created the Lam Elisa Facebook page just chose that name out of thin air? WARNING VIDEO IS DISTURBING!


I watched every video created by Cecil Secret and took a real close look as you suggested. I am still of the opinion that whatever they are doing is not related to the case. I also agree with dfoxxx in that, while disturbing to some viewers, there is a culture of people who enjoy bdsm/pain threshold experiments, and the Cecil Secret vimeo user is among them.

The creator of the Lam Elisa Facebook page didn't pull the name out of thin air. Lam's name was all over the news at that time because of the massive search for her. If that Facebook page and Cecil Secret page were connected as you allege, perhaps it's because the facebook profile was created by Cecil Secret, who lives in LA and would have been well aware of the ongoing search.





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