The narrow path

The fact is just because you call yourself a christian does not mean you are "saved".

You actually have to live like a christian.

Hense a lot of so called chritians will not meet the standards.

So although yes chritianity is one of the largest religions a lot of them will not be counted as chritians in gods eyes.

reply to post by JW2002


I think it's pretty unfair and uncaring of their god to send most people to suffer for eternity. If he loved unconditionally, he wouldn't be sending 90% of people to a place where they are in agony 24/7 365 forever. Pretty s####y if you ask me.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by JW2002

 

I think it's pretty unfair and uncaring of their god to send most people to suffer for eternity. If he loved unconditionally, he wouldn't be sending 90% of people to a place where they are in agony 24/7 365 forever. Pretty s####y if you ask me.

If you believe in hell then yeah. But hell does not exist. Where the idea of hell came from was Gehenna which was the pit out side Jerusalem. It was here that Murderers and other serious criminals were disposed of. Hell is not a real place and Gehenna was just used to show how wicked people would be separated and destroyed forever.

As for who will be destroyed. I don't know. But there are a lot of selfish self consumed people out there. People that refuse to listen to god. He is giving them a chance to listen but if they continue ignoring him what is he to do?

The unconditional love is there and mean that apart from the most wicked of wicked people he is willing to forget past transgressions if they try and live by his will. If Richard Dawkins decided he was wrong and truly sorry he would be forgiven ect

At the end of the day though there are people who are too dangrous to be allowed to live (think most of the politicans and bankers ect) and so God as much as he will hate to do it will on his day remove them forgever.

You also have to bare in mind that only 1440,000 will go to heaven. The other faithfull ones known as the great crowed will instead be returned to the perfect state that humans had before Eve sinning and will then be free to live on a perfect earth forever.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

Matthew 7
14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

How can Christians believe that Christianity is the "narrow path" even though it is the largest religion in the world? Jesus said that only a "few" people would find the narrow path, yet the religion he supposedly set up has become the largest path in the world and is steadily growing larger and larger by the day and has been for 2,000 years.

If Jesus was god and god knows everything infinitely beforehand, then why would he say that only a few would find this path when he knew that billions would end up finding it in the end? I don't know about you guys, but "billions" and "few" are not compatible, they are total opposites actually.

This set-up that god has put into place has another problem. If god truly wanted everyone to be saved, then why would he intentionally make it to where only a "few" would find it? As I said before, god knows everything in advance, so him setting up a path that only a "few" would find goes against the common Christian belief that he wants everyone to be saved.

Why condemn billions of people throughout history to hell if you truly want them in heaven? Why make the path narrow when he could have made it wide enough to let everyone through? If god knows everything in advance, then it goes to reason that he intentionally condemned those people, because he knew that only a "few" would find it beforehand.

What are your thoughts on this?

And on a side note, from the mouth of Jesus:

Matthew 15
14 Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit."

And from the mouth of Paul:

2 Corinthians 5
7 For we live by faith, not by sight.

The "narrow gate" is the faith Roman Catholicism. God has one plan, man's plan and his free will, said
no.

Soon says Heaven, God in His great love is going to show every single person on the earth the true faith
is Roman Catholicism. After, no one will have the excuse of not knowing.

These two verses are incompatible. Those who do not walk by sight are blind. Think about that.

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Oops, I'll try again and place my comment after the OP's words...


The "narrow gate" is the faith, Roman Catholicism. God has one plan, man's plan and his free will, said
no.

Soon says Heaven, God in His great love is going to show every single person on the earth the true faith
is Roman Catholicism. After, no one will have the excuse of not knowing.

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by JW2002

 

I think it's pretty unfair and uncaring of their god to send most people to suffer for eternity. If he loved unconditionally, he wouldn't be sending 90% of people to a place where they are in agony 24/7 365 forever. Pretty s####y if you ask me.

Thanks for disguising that word, how nice, I mean it.

God calls everyone to repentance. Confession of your mortal sins to God. If you choose to follow Satan instead
of the good. It's your choice, you choose Hell. Don't do it. No one knows their last day so make regular from
the heart confession of your sins to God.

Catholics have to do more, they must go to Confession.

reply to post by colbe


Yet Catholicism is the biggest denomination out of all denominations, no matter what religion you are talking about. There are over 1 BILLION Catholics around the world, and I'm pretty sure most if not all believe 100% in Catholic doctrine, so saying most aren't true Catholics is a total cop out.

So how is the largest path the narrowest again?

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by colbe

 

Yet Catholicism is the biggest denomination out of all denominations, no matter what religion you are talking about. There are over 1 BILLION Catholics around the world, and I'm pretty sure most if not all believe 100% in Catholic doctrine, so saying most aren't true Catholics is a total cop out.

So how is the largest path the narrowest again?

Hi 3NLIGHT,

You kinda say it yourself. The largest group of Christians, not all of them follow 100% the one faith, "one" is
pretty narrow, the "narrowest" path, Roman Catholicism.

This is why God is going to show every soul on the earth Roman Catholicism is the true faith, the narrow
path during the soon Great Warning, also known as the "awakening."

It is prophesied, God wants everyone to be or become Roman Catholic. The Remnant is Roman Catholic. What
a marvelous period of time God has put us in, yes.

reply to post by colbe

God calls everyone to repentance. Confession of your mortal sins to God. If you choose to follow Satan instead
of the good. It's your choice, you choose Hell. Don't do it. No one knows their last day so make regular from
the heart confession of your sins to God.

I guess I'll just post this again:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that:

1. Perhaps Satan and God are bound by rules similar to the prime directive of the Star Fleet Command in Star Trek.

2. Satan, being the evil one, had no qualms about breaking the rules - in the process, painting himself as his counterpart and God as the one with the corrupt nature.

3. God, in keeping with his rules, is unwilling to directly violate the code in order to correct the damage inflicted by Satan's deception and instead sends messengers to spread the truth in the form of "false prophets".

4. Satan would want to encourage ignorance and division in order to ensure conquest, while God would understand exactly how we work and would encourage us to make mistakes in order to learn to fly.

5. One of the two has never been able to tell his story from his own mouth. Out of the two, who is most likely to fear the word of the other? And therefore, who is most likely to place all the attention on himself in order to limit opportunity for competition?

6. One of the two is a fine liar, but the thing about lies is, words and actions are set apart by their meaning. One may claim to tell the truth, but the truth is in how they act. One of the two has made promises in exchange for power; one of the two has demonstrated love through cruelty; one of the two has painted obeisance as humility; one of the two has inconsistently demonstrated their priorities, as one would when balancing agendas - one for appearance, one for profit.

Psychology at its finest. Just something I wanted to throw out there.

reply to post by colbe


So the Muslim path is the same as the Hindu path? The Pentecostal path is the same as the Buddhist path?

So what you're saying is that Catholicism is the ONLY path that stands on its own? That's ridiculous.

Prophecy states the Remnant is Roman Catholic. The prophetic says God is going to show the entire world, you will have to choose then. The "narrow gate" is Roman Catholicism. I wish you would say "yes" now but if not, remember. This message was given six years ago, we are closer now to the "illumination of conscience."

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11/03/07


My people, your generation is no different than the people of my day. The men of

Ninive shall rise in judgment with this generation and shall condemn it: because they did penance at the preaching of Jonas. And behold a greater than Jonas here. St. Matthew 12:41. Behold my people a greater than Jonas is in your midst. The Son of God waits for you in every tabernacle in my Catholic churches worldwide. My people you have my commandments, my holy church, my signs and wonders, and my Blessed Mother’s miracles and messages. But many still reject my mercy. You have no excuse in my sight. You have been blessed with many graces and merits. Your generation will be judged. Many of you believe I am only a God of love and mercy. You teach justice is an outdated concept. But I the Lord God do not change. It is you my people who have been deceived. Yes, I am a God of love and mercy. But I am also a God of justice. You will be judged by the works and deeds, you commit in this life. Accept my mercy today. All of your sins can be forgiven in this life by my precious blood. I repeat to you again: After death, it

will be too late to accept my mercy. Do not reject my mercy or your nation will be judged as my children of Israel were in the past. Your country has been blessed greatly. But, I can allow the blessings to be taken away. Continue to worship the false gods of greed and science, continue to allow abortion, and continue to indulge in the sins of the flesh and you will reap what you have sown. Galatians 6:7,8. Be not deceived: God is not mocked. For what things a man shall sow, those also shall he reap. For he that soweth in his flesh of the flesh also shall reap corruption. But he that soweth in the spirit shall reap life everlasting. My people, what are you sowing today? Are you sowing to the flesh or are you sowing to the spirit? If you as a nation, continue to sow to the flesh and break my commandments, you will

suffer chastisement as a nation. My blessings and protection will be removed from your country and you will be judged. Be like the people of Nineveh and repent. The people of Nineveh were given one chance and they repented. My children of the United States, you have been given many chances, but you still ignore my warnings. The date and time of your nation’s demise has been set. The time for repentance is short. If you do not heed my warnings, you will be judged severely. The ungodly and the lukewarm will not enter my kingdom without repentance and penance. My people, you say: God bless America. How can you expect my blessings, when your nation is one of the leading exporters and producers of: pornography, violence and abortion in the world. Your government funds and supports abortion in other countries. Millions of my little ones do not have the

opportunity to fulfill their mission. The blood of the innocents cries to heaven for

vengeance. I will require of your nation the blood of my murdered little ones. Repent, for little time remains. I will forgive your sins and heal your land. All I ask is for my people of the United States to repent and turn from your wicked ways. The lukewarmness of my church has allowed these evils to befall your nation. I ask your clergy to repent of their sins. Remember, if your foundation is not built upon the rock Christ Jesus, your works will burn away in the fires of my purification. My church must once again stand up for the truth and be ready for persecution.

Your nation is ripe for the winepress of the wrath of God. I will allow the man of

sin to take over your nation, if no repentance is done. Take heed my people to my

warnings. I warn you today and I will warn you again, during the ILLUMINATION OF CONSCIENCE.

At that time you will know the truth. Reject my merciful warning and you will be seduced by the father of lies, Satan himself. Your nation will then be submitted to the great trial. But those of my chosen people who: trust in me 100%, obey my commandments, and are consecrated both to my sacred heart and my blessed Mother's Immaculate Heart will be protected and gain entrance to my kingdom. For I the Lord prophesy to you again: After the warning, there will be only one Holy Catholic Church. All other denominations will know the truth. There will be no excuse for division. Those who reject my church will be rejecting the head of the church: Jesus Christ. Woe to those who live in those days and reject my mercy. Prepare yourselves, for the simplification of your lives, persecution, and the day of the Lord. Many are called, but few are chosen. Strive to enter by the NARROW GATE:...

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reply to post by colbe


If you understood anything about illumination of conscience then you would probably realize that conscience is the "I AM", the name that God gave to Moses and the name that Jesus gave when he was talking about "before Abraham".

We are the "I AM" because we are consciousness. The "I AM" is God, and we are the "I AM" as a collective. God is greater than me because I am only a piece of him, but I am still fundamentally God to the core, and so are you and so is every living creature in the universe.

Originally posted by sacgamer25
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

 

I am afraid of losing my Job, it causes me anxiety.

Name one fear that does not lead at least some if not most or even all to have some anxiety.

Name one thing that causes anxiety that could not be classified fear.

sacgamer,

Times are really tough, do not get down. Think of who loves you the most, God, the Father, Son and
Holy Spirit. It is a fact, they loved you first. God created you. God is the only one who can take
anxious feelings away. Speak to Him in prayer.


God bless you,


colbe

Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by colbe

 

If you understood anything about illumination of conscience then you would probably realize that conscience is the "I AM", the name that God gave to Moses and the name that Jesus gave when he was talking about "before Abraham".

We are the "I AM" because we are consciousness. The "I AM" is God, and we are the "I AM" as a collective. God is greater than me because I am only a piece of him, but I am still fundamentally God to the core, and so are you and so is every living creature in the universe.

Sorry 3NLIGHT, New Age is nonsense. We are the created. How beautiful, God's desire is we be with Him forever in Heaven one day.

reply to post by colbe


We are both the creator and the creation.

I'm not a "new ager" either, I have my own opinions based on my own insights, not an outside movement.

reply to post by colbe


3NLIGHT,

I came back to the computer to thank you. I mean it. You took the time to read the message, thank you.
If people would read Heaven's messages they would know what is ahead and not worry.


your friend,


colbe

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You're welcome brother.

I have a question.

I was discussing the Bible with a random stranger I met by a lake, and he explained to me his understanding of the Bible - all about how "it's not a religion, it's a relationship" (even though it still fully qualified as a religion) because "religion means man is chasing god, and a relationship means god is chasing man". None of that makes any sense, but moving on...

I asked him why we only ever hear what "God" has to say. Where is Satan's side of the story, I ask. Any person every truly righteous will always listen to the whole story. And he says that he has spoken to Satan before, that they've had exchanges. And that's when the really confusing part happens.

He says the whole room goes really cold, and a voice says I HATE YOU. And he's convinced it was Satan speaking to him. He hates him because he is a Christian.

So here's my argument against that. First of all, Satan is known as "The Great Deceiver". Second, he wants nothing more than to corrupt all the Christians, right? They're filet mignon to him. They're the cream of the crop. Nothing sweeter than corrupting the incorruptible. So here's my question: why would he tell the truth? Why would he ruin any chance of ever corrupting them by skipping all of the deception? Why would he reveal his hand before he had a chance to play it? For someone who is so powerful, he doesn't seem inclined to use it. In fact, the whole story was so cliché that I'm tempted to dismiss it as fantasy. It's unoriginal. Unconvincing. Just all-around illogical. It has the distinct taste of someone making something up specifically to cast a subject in a scary light. Thankfully, I'm not gullible.

But what do you guys think? Why would the Great Deceiver just come out and lay every card on the table without even bothering to tempt the human soul first? Why would he tell the truth? Why would he just come out and try to scare a Christian away? Scare him away? What for? He wants to corrupt him! He doesn't want him to run away! He wants them to come over to the Dark Side. So the story makes no sense in any way.

And Christians wonder why they're not making any headway.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


That's why I think "Satan" wrote the bible. The greatest trick he ever played on the world was to make us believe he is god.

He has deceived the world, through religion.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

That's why I think "Satan" wrote the bible. The greatest trick he ever played on the world was to make us believe he is god.

He has deceived the world, through religion.

And yet, I believe that what I described in my previous post is another metaphor for the actual truth. It seems to bear a lot of parallels to the system described in the Ra Material. This system boasts no god and no malicious archnemesis, but rather a cyclical learning process that exists for the sake of experience. As in, being alive. Period. You start from the beginning, learning everything you need to comprehend the true nature of the universe, join the universe (losing yourself as an individual entity) then rinse and repeat. It's like a board game, only this one is unlike any you have ever known before. Or maybe you have known it, you just don't remember.