reply to post by InhaleExhale
You make good points, and, of course, I hate you for none of them.
However, perhaps some of us live further down the rabbit hole, than other, for you to observe, to understand, that there are some things without
Quite a while back there was a movie that addressed this rather well, called, I believe, "Between Heaven and Earth." It was about a vietnamese
woman who married a veteran of that war, came to this country, had many children and was very successful, but her husband, as a veteran,
disintengrated. He beat her, couldn't deal with his memories of the war, etc.....
She went back home, eventually, and spoke with the "shaman" of her village. His answer to her was quite surprising. He said. "You and this man
have been karmically entangled obviously for quite some time. No, it is not right what he does to you, but you must remain by his side in some way
to solve this problem, or it will only present itself in another life, with different relationships....."
Now, I don't know if you ascribe to any of those beliefs, which here, would encompass reincarnation, karmic entanglement as well as quantum
But what I do know, is that this kind of problem, here, between men and women, and in families, is far too prevalent to ignore....
It is at least half, if not more, the reason many people self medicate, become alcoholics, repeat whatever their childhood unresolved issues were, or
for that matter, their adult unresolved issues are....
I see a lot of people talk about mental illness, alcoholism, drug abuse, etc......but we never really GET TO THE ROOT of the issue. Laws and
incarceration will not solve this. In fact, there is a whole penal and judicial system that makea money off it, and even if they are inclined to do
the best for people, CANNOT hope to address it with incarceration, or diversion programs, etc..,.,
Most of us who self medicate, even if we seek psychiatric help, which is whole other story, end up dealing with it all our lives. It has become a
HUGE business. If you have insurance, they make a whole bunch of money sticking you in a "rehabilitation" program..... It really doesn't work,
You know why people seek to get "high," in whatever way......it's pain. They are trying to deal with some kind of pain. The police, the judges,
the courts, the prison system cannot solve the root of this problem. All this does is gives people jobs NOT solving the problem, and privatizing
prison systems because of the high rate of recitivism.
In other words, it just repeats itself.
You wanna talk about love? I have found this thread to be, in particular, simple minded. "yeah, all you gotta do is love...."
Some of us have tried turning the other cheek, loving our enemies, and then fighting back, as well.....
When none of that works, and you are still a tortured soul, what are you to do? I am not the only one who would express this to you. This is
RAMPANT, in my opinion, in what I have observed in my life...and experienced,.....
It isn't as simple as taking a walk, loving unconditionally, etc. Some of us have done all that, time and again, asked, prayed, begged for
forgiveness, even if we did no wrong.......
Love isn;t the issue. Hatred is. Pain is.. Want to talk about a real thread, a real issue, what drives everything we see happening, and
disentigrating before our eyes...this is the root of it.......No one really wants to talk about it honestly, because it's part of the whole system in
place to give people jobs to solve problems that never really address the real problem.....
Sorry, that's my Humble Opinion. I have taken responsibility for plenty in my life....been more honest than most when it would have been more
convenient to lie. I have sat in court, watched tha people, watched the pain....
We are slaves here, at least some of us. And we suffer for many to tell us we are NOT taking responsibility......when we would do ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING
to end that pain, the cyclical non functioning that you see historically in familial relations and it goes forward and just reasserts itself all over
It is much more complicated than this thread, IMHO, is dealing with. Forgive me, but I know all about unconditional love, even never having received
it. I tried, over and over, loving what destroyed my life so many times over you wouldn't even believe it........
Turning the other cheek, fighting back, neither worked.......
And I am so tired of people telling me what love truly is, when they have no idea the pain, the acceptance, the fight, and STILL want to lay it at
Thanks for your reply.