Immigrants? Former Labour government sent search parties to bring imigrants to UK!!!!!!

I am an immigrant in the UK. And no one invited me.

Poverty made me do it...

The Obama administration is doing the same thing...
Janet Napalitano is getting every illegal (undocumented Democrats) into the US she can.

Originally posted by wemadetheworld

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
We are now getting 'Right Wingers' over here from East European Countries which means things will get heated in certain areas....

I don't like 'Right Wingers' or 'Fanatical Radicals'.

I call for Moderation, proudly echoing down the ages. Will any of those in Government second that motion, or must we vote for UKIP?

Well.... for me it has to be UKIP because of what I am experiencing.

I just hope UKIP don't turn out to be a Right Wing Party! I know they are positioned to the Right but as far as I know, they aren't Far Right!

I'm not Racist and do like Integration of sorts, I just didn't think it would go as far as it has with a takeover attempt from the ME & Africa.... and now East Europeans who have that Mentality of the 'White Skinheads' back in the day.

As I said in my Thread Entitled: 'IF THE CLASH OF ALL CLASHES COME?'

If I'm attacked for being Mixed Race, I will fight back.

If I'm attacked for being English, I will fight back

And

If I'm attacked for not being Religious, I will fight back too.

reply to post by TruthxIsxInxThexMist


Not a dig - I always genuinely wonder - why vote for a party which has no policies, what do you think they'll do if they do get in - abolish the human rights act, kick out all the immigrants, pull us out of the EU - what then? That's all they have on their card.

If these people had any political savvy or the ability to compromise over ANYTHING they would be members of the established parties seeking to change them from the inside, instead they're just playing to the lowest common denominator.

And they are a far right party - they don't even deny it. They and the BNP are relying on the fact that Voter apathy is at an all time high and increasing all the time - eventually the only people voting are going to be the extremes of both ends of the system - but the right wing is a lot easier to cater for than the left.
(which does raise the question of whether they are actually right wing, or just looking to capitalise on it)

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I dont they would kick out all the Immigrants.... just those who are here to cause problems like the Fanatics (Muslims and East Europeans).

It is only them who are and will be a problem.

I dont have children but if I did, I wouldn't want them growing up in a Country which has these people in it.

Originally posted by GeeBee
After all, socialism is just one small step away from communism.

No it isn't, socialism is the same thing as communism, and both are economic not political systems. Britain hasn't had a socialist party since pre-WWII, before the real workers ran labour party was infiltrated and turned into a liberal party that has nothing to do with socialism or labour.

Marx and Engels used the terms Communism and Socialism to mean precisely the same thing. They used “Communism” in the early years up to about 1875, and after that date mainly used the term “Socialism.” There was a reason for this. In the early days, about 1847-1850, Marx and Engels chose the name “Communism” in order to distinguish their ideas from Utopian, reactionary or disreputable movements then in existence, which called themselves “Socialist.” Later on, when these movements disappeared or went into obscurity, and when, from 1870 onwards, parties were being formed in many countries under the name Social-Democratic Party or Socialist Party, Marx and Engels reverted to the words Socialist and Socialism. Thus when Marx in 1875 (as mentioned by Lenin) wanted to make the distinction referred to by the Daily Worker, he spoke of the “first phase of Communist society” and “a higher phase of Communist society.” Engels, writing in the same year, used the term Socialism, not Communism, and habitually did so afterwards. Marx also fell, more or less closely, into line with this change of names and terms, using sometimes the one, sometimes the other, without any distinction of meaning.

Edgar Hardcastle Socialists Do Stand for Equality

Both the terms communism and socialism have been demonised, and they are not what the state has told you they are. Capitalism can be totalitarian as an economic system, because it is authoritarian and controlled by a minority class, socialism can't because it is common ownership, and no one can monopolise the means of production and deny it's use to others. Wealth creation is more evenly spread, so no one can gain an economic advantage that gives them the power to control the system to their benefit, at the expense of others.

UKIP are not closet racists. They have no problem with colour, creed or country of origin. What they do have a problem with is uncontrolled immigration into a country that is already bursting at the seams. The entire UK is the size of New Mexico and has 62 million people in it!

They like Europe too, but don't like being part of the EU as it makes no financial sense and costs us £50,000,000 per day to be a member

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Um.... so you aren't far right yourself, but you favour kicking out people based on their ethnic background?

Personally I find that a little bit worrying - but I can respect your right to have an opinion - I'll probably have to renounce my citizenship if they get in though, because I don't want to live in a country that would tear up the human rights act and alienate us from our largest and closest trading partner just to kick out people they don't like...

Incidentally, they want to stop ALL EU immigration, and kick out ALL EU citizens who have been in the country less than 7 years! Next they'll bring in compulsary ID cards and kick out everyone who doesn't have one of them - then they want to make it so difficult for immigration from outside the EU, that we effectively become an isolated island.... I despair that they did so well in the local elections...

Here's some answers given by a UKIP candidate:

UKIP’s sole aim is to have a referendum on the European Union, but what would you do after that
? It’s the only way for Britain. That means that every Eastern European would have to leave, except for the ones who have had kids. For example, say a Polish couple come over here and have kids – it’s a British kid. They would probably have to stay.

Why did you get into politics?
Because I was fed up. I go to apply for a job, I don’t get it and foreigners do. Those who do the hiring are told by their bosses, "You’ve got to employ 30 percent foreigners." So an English guy doesn’t have a chance.

What about immigration coming from outside of the European Union?
The idea for UKIP is that, once we’ve stopped the EU, we'll be very tight on other people as well. My personal opinion is that we should have ID cards. There are two million illegal people in this country. Britain gets them, takes them to the police station and, if they haven’t got a passport, they let them go. What they should do is build not prisons, but holding centres, and lock them up.

And here's a quote from their website:

"EU citizens who have been established in the UK for seven years or more will, depending on their circumstances, be able to apply for permanent leave to remain (provided they fulfill certain criteria and are eligible to apply for work permits)".

So yeah, vote for them if you like, but don't try and pretend they aren't a far right party.
(Even better, join the party and try to get some semblance of sanity in there!)

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Of course they're right-wing.

They are a nationalist organisation.

What is the Nationalism?

“Nationalism is our form of incest, is our idolatry, is our insanity. "Patriotism" is its cult. It should hardly be necessary to say, that by "patriotism” I mean that attitude which puts the own nation above humanity, above the principles of truth and justice; not the loving interest in one’s own nation, which is the concern with the nation’s spiritual as much as with its material welfare — never with its power over other nations. Just as love for one individual which excludes the love for others is not love, love for one’s country which is not part of one’s love for humanity is not love, but idolatrous worship.” Erich Fromm, in The Sane Society (1955)

Probably should be pointed out that Britain received a Nobel Prize in Physics in 2010 for Graphene after it was invented at Manchester University by Andre Geim and Konstantin Novoselov, both immigrants to the UK.

Lucky for us a Labour "search party" managed to find them eh?

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So, what do you propose? When within a whole Town, not one person speaks English when you walk down the high street?

I don't know where you live but for me... I don't like it. I was at my Local earlier today shopping.... only other person who was English was a woman at the till! Walk along the street and you only have to look around you to see that you are the only Englishman walking in that street.

reply to post by MaxSteiner


Not all people.... I never said that.

I'm Mixed Race myself.... born and bred here.... only speak English. I realized a few years ago what was happening here when I gave up work! You see, I had been busy working away all hours to pay for this while most were here having babies and building mosques! Now we have Far Right coming in from Eastern Europe which as I've said will only make tensions worse.

Do you want London to become another Libya, Eygpt or Nigeria? Do you want London to become a Fascist City?

It will with all this lot here become one or the other...

Have you seen the other Thread on front page entitled 'Spat On In London' or my Thread Entitled 'If The Clash Of All Clashes Comes?' Have a read of my one on page 2 I give the reason why I made that Thread.

BTW they are right when they say there are 2 million Illegals here and I didn't have a problem with East Europeans until I saw those two guys! In fact I've not had any other conflicts with East Europeans, I have East European Friends.... I really didn't have much of a problem with 'Muslims' until I saw what they were doing.

You get the Fanatics (who are trying to take over the Land) and you get those 'Far Rights' (who are here to cause trouble for everyone). It looks like we are at a Crossroads.

This is all down to the Government & Councils!

What do you suggest I do? What is the choice?

Originally posted by LABTECH767
reply to post by The0nlytruth
I am not a racist but

Usually applied before a "racist" rant. Usually takes credibility away from the words that follow it.


We live in a globalized economy, there is no room in this economy/control structure for anything against "foreigners" (unless those foreigners are muslim of course). Nations are being phased out, being sucked into super states.
Its too late to roll back, we live in the NWO.
We have the NWO control structure already.
The one world currency is almost here.
The one world religion, well thats exactly why the "muslims" are the enemy...
Christians vs Muslims until we have a winner.

This of course is all my opinion. But thats were my evidence has led me.
When I open my eyes and look at the world, thats exactly what I see.

Originally posted by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
So, what do you propose? When within a whole Town, not one person speaks English when you walk down the high street?

Er nothing?

What business is it of mine what language other people speak?

I don't know where you live but for me... I don't like it. I was at my Local earlier today shopping.... only other person who was English was a woman at the till! Walk along the street and you only have to look around you to see that you are the only Englishman walking in that street.

Well I used to live in England, Brighton was my home town before I left, but I was raised in the west Midlands.

I now live in California and there are neighbourhoods here where you will only hear Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Russian, butchered English lol, and more. I have no problem with it.

The building I live in is 90% Nepalese, Nepal South Asia. The only thing that bothers me is they are crammed sometimes 4 to a tiny room making the place overcrowded, but that is the landlords fault, and they leave their shoes outside their doors, so there are piles of shoes everywhere in the hallways lol. But I'll live, and get on with my life.

We are all people, and have more in common than we don't. We are not the problem, those that control the worlds economies that causes migration are the problem. Blaming the victims is not right, because then it is just a blame game, and the cause of it is never addressed.

Originally posted by OneManArmy
This of course is all my opinion. But thats were my evidence has led me.
When I open my eyes and look at the world, thats exactly what I see.

I share your opinion mate.

People think the NWO is a new system that is going to be suddenly foisted upon us at a certain time.

They don't realise that they have been slowly implementing it since at least WWII. The decimation of the working class, due to WWII, is what paved the way for the NWO to start being put into practice with a much lower chance of the working class revolting, as it would have done prior to WWII. Of course technology like television helped with this immensely.

The NWO is the complete economic control of the worlds markets, through military and economic control of nations governments by a small powerful select group of capitalists. They are the only ones with the economic power to do it. It is basically fascism in a new form, instead of state control of the means of production, we are getting private control of the state in order to improve private control of the worlds economy.

They already have economic control of China, through outsourcing. Only a few ME nations, N.Korea, Cuba, etc., are not yet assimilated and made part of the centrally controlled one world economic system. Capitalists must be frothing at the mouth to get their teeth into the cheap labour potential of N.Korea.

I am not religious, but it does follow what the Bible says will happen quite well doesn't it? A one world economy would essentially be a one world government, even though we would still have our regional authorities the real decision concerning world politics and economics will be controlled by one central authority with only one goal, to make money from creating and exploiting cheap labour markets.

Originally posted by CuriousAchilles

Originally posted by OtherSideOfTheCoin
The Daily Mail….

Let’s face it they are not about to write anything other than negativity about just about anything

I would bet that this is not the entire truth they probably send out groups to find individuals with skills that we were lacking in the UK.

Quite possible.

For those of you hopping on the UKIP bandwagon - you do know that the party is homophobic, and run by people who are just as wealthy and elitist as the others, don't you?

You seem to have fallen hook, line and sinker for Nigel Farage's "I'm representing the common people" schtick. Congratulations.

If you really want to send a message to the clowns in Westminster, DON'T VOTE FOR ANYONE. By voting, you continue to participate in a broken system that doesn't serve your interests. You continue to play their game with their rules.

Wake up.

Agreed...and disagree.

we seriously need a "!none of the above" vote.

please , please attend om election day...even if its only to spoil you ballot paper.

You get d#heads of every colour, nationality and creed. There are plenty of born and bred Englishmen who are utter tw#s.

A lot on this thread are using the term "Muslim" when really they mean "Islamic fanatics". The vast majority of Muslims feel the same way about these people as everyday Christians do about the Westboro Baptist Church.

Honestly, I despair for the human race reading some of the posts on this thread.

Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by OneManArmy
This of course is all my opinion. But thats were my evidence has led me.
When I open my eyes and look at the world, thats exactly what I see.

I am not religious, but it does follow what the Bible says will happen quite well doesn't it?

edit on 5/15/2013 by ANOK because: (no reason given)

Im not a follower of organised religion.
What better blasphemous way for a "satanic" cabal to achieve its goals, than to do it as described in the bible. The plan is there they just had to follow it.
And to clarify, the satanic church states that "satanism" is simply mans power over god. Rebellion in the style of the fallen angels. I think it does actually run deeper than that alone, thanks to Ted Gunderson RIP.
Satanic child abuse and sacrifice is a reality, Ive seen too much evidence to deny it as much as Id like to.
But every religion has its fanatics I suppose.

Back on topic though... You have to be very careful when it comes to newspaper rhetoric, I have been studying the news very closely for a few years, the newspapers are very divisive, they use stories to guide public opinion then bam, the govt adds new taxes, or cuts benefits for the neediest, cuts services, and cuts taxes for the rich.
They pitch us against each other(middle class vs the poor, "us" vs the eastern europeans, "us" vs the muslims and the dreaded "sharia law").
All the while we are denied a say on our place in the corrupt european union, simply because we will vote overwhelmingly NO to it.
I have a trick when it comes to knowing what a politician means...its the exact opposite of what they are saying.
It doesnt matter, left or right, they are controlled by the same corporate interests, the results are always the same.
My definition of a "democratic" election is
1) The main parties tell us what we want to hear.
2) We vote them in.
3) They proceed to not do anything they promised us to get the votes.

Originally posted by CuriousAchilles

A lot on this thread are using the term "Muslim" when really they mean "Islamic fanatics".

You make a very good point, but what do you expect when the media says "muslims"?
We lived relatively peaceful alongside muslims, jews, hindu's, sihks, buddhists and many other sects and cults for years before 911. All 911 did was make the "muslims" the bad guys, by stint of using the fractional fruitcakes to tar all of them. And the mainstream media perpetuates that myth with characters like Abu Qatada, never actually been convicted without dodgy evidence extracted by torture, but yet hes the "boogie man".
Its so easy for the MSM to get an emotional reaction which clouds our logical judgement.
We are easily led by our fears and emotions, if we just stopped to look at the logic, we would see we are being taken for idiots.

Originally posted by OneManArmy

We are easily led by our fears and emotions, if we just stopped to look at the logic, we would see we are being taken for idiots.

I suppose that's too much to ask of some people.