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CODE RED Alert...All Signs Point Towards Major False Flag

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posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:58 AM
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you should learn from the past: there hasnt been a single time where a was false flag or whatever was predicted. When it happens its always unexpectedly. At least for big events.




posted on May, 15 2013 @ 07:04 AM
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Now thats funny but if i remember correctly there have been military exercices during previous "doom" dates as well. During elenin and the zombie apocalypse (bath salt bs). Yet what happened afterwards? Comon take a guess


Military exercices arent proof of anything.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:06 AM
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Hmm, I don't know if this is going to work or not, but I'll give it a shot. I'm not "inside" a Libertarian or T-Party zone of information. So I'm going to present my perspective of NOT getting my news from certain sources but just being informed by my own digging:

>> In my experience, False Flags do happen, but they are usually to distract from; Banker corruption like the LIBOR scandal. Engage the US in a war. Or assault on the Constitution. Now before we start saying; "Yeah, grab our guns" -- I don't think someone made the Boston bombings happen to take away guns because A) much more than a few people would have been killed had the bad guys used a hand gun rather than a pressure cooker, and B) the Bankers and War-Profiteers and Constitution assaults work much better when people are armed. At the Wacko Texas compound, for instance, they had stockpiled over a million bullets and had enough weapons to outfit a small army. When the government wanted to do them harm -- they lasted only a few minutes. The notion that some "freedom fighter" with an AR-15 is going to take on a weaponized drone is a fantasy. We long ago passed the time when a gaggle of armed men could fight off the government. This is delusional -- they have infrared satellites, you cannot hide. Your strategy would be exactly like a resistance in Iraq; Improvised Explosive Devices used attacking personnel and infrastructure and then hiding. The guns are used only in desperation just before the troops shoot you down -- watch the YouTube videos of troops in Humvies taking out such people in Bagdad. Not a problem.

So here goes;

* Benghazi-Gate.* During the Bush era there were around 200 such attacks on embassies and consulates. Only people watching Fox News think this is a big issue. The only thing likely being covered up is what the CIA might have been doing there (like operating Drones -- a military action). This happened in Libya, a country we just invaded. So nobody is surprised there were warnings.

* IRS- Tea Party-Gate.* LOL. A bunch of people who advocate tax dodging. Who advocate profiling Muslims for terrorism. Nobody listens to Tea Party people but the media and like-minded Tea Party people. It's a tiny, vocal (whinny) group. The White House has no connection to this decision by the IRS. By The Way; the guy heading the IRS when this took place was appointed by Bush -- because Obama hasn't made all his appointments yet, even in his 2nd term. If the IRS were NOT investigating these people for tax dodging, they'd be idiots.

* The Boston Bombing.* I haven't followed much of anything with this event. I'm worn out from conspiracies. I'll take you word for it that some things don't add up. However; why have a false flag to cover up a false flag? Either this was just some nuts doing damage, or it was a false flag. But why? Other than being a distraction, there wasn't an impetus to war, or another event to distract us from. It was NOT to get hand guns because we just had kids getting shot en mass, and again, these nuts used pressure cookers. Reasonable people don't need such an event to say we been background checks.

* Govt Taps Press Phone Records.* When did the stop doing this? Karl Rove had the NSA on all the media people and on his political opponents. I don't like that it is still going on. But this is only taps from a small group --- the other 3-letter agencies have been tapping EVERYTHING. Just assume all electronic communications are recorded on at least two or three databases.

* Ammo shortage * We keep having these right after the NRA sends out flyers warning people that the government is after their guns. I don't buy bullets but I've heard we've had these before.

* Repeated calls for stricter gun laws.* My bad. Everyone I know thinks we need background checks, that a person doesn't need MORE than two assault weapons a month, and that selling out of the back of a trunk or at a gun show allows bad guys to get weapons. That isn't the BIG GOVERNMENT that is asking for background checks -- that's people like me hearing of kids shooting each other.

* Drones * These are bad. I'm for impeachment over this issue.

* Iran * Israel wants us in -- Obama apparently doesn't. Mossad may want a false flag -- can't argue with that.

* False stories of Assad * yes the War mongers and Israel again -- can't argue. We SUDDENLY discover gas usage when Israel wants us to invade?

* Weapons to Al Qaeda * The CIA has been supporting al Qaeda in Iran for a while now. Those freedom fighters in Libya were in some cases (based on rumors) aligned with al Qaeda. AQ are dupes.


>>> From my perspective, the Tea Party isn't some fight for liberty, it's people tricked into supporting the status quo. When they run things -- like they have in North Carolina, they immediately take away other people's liberty. They've arrested 50 people protesting the "Moral Mondays" that the Tea Party group put in place.

From my perspective, there is nothing new.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:19 AM
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Originally posted by _damon
reply to post by Signals
 


you should learn from the past: there hasnt been a single time where a was false flag or whatever was predicted. When it happens its always unexpectedly. At least for big events.


However, about every 6 weeks the FBI has someone "they've been tracking" do something extremely bad in a location of the country that is looking at reducing some of our Homeland Security shoe-sniffing policies.

Drugs like Scopolamine already seem to have an effect much like you'd use on a person to make them do something horrible and then forget about it.

John C. Dvorak (yeah, the geek from the Screen Savers) has actually had a good track record finding the pattern.

But I totally agree that the OP has not found the "signs" here -- this is a perspective from people inside the Tea Party, and they don't even notice that their goals are aligned with billionaires and they get FAR MORE ATTENTION than a squeaky group of a few thousand people have a right to. 90% of what he's pointing to is NOTHING NEW. The IRS targeting the tea baggers only makes sense since they advocate for people to dodge taxes and call it "illegal" -- which it might be based on some interpretations, but Federal Taxes are what we've been doing for a hundred years and we have a modern society -- so it is established. Corporate "rights" are based on nonsense and were never voted on by anyone until the Supreme Court made them up for the Citizen's United case -- so I'd say federal taxes are about a 1000 times more legitimate.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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Are you joking?

The economy is getting better?

Oh you mean like last month's job's report? you know the one where 169k mostly MINIMUM wage jobs "were created" but if you drill down into the available data you find that just to keep up with the shrinkage in average hours worked by those in the workforce we'd have needed to create almost 750,000? You mean like that information?

Or how about pretty much every single economic indicator like PPI and etc sending out screaming warning signs that the ship is sinking and real demand is collapsing WORLDWIDE?

I'm sorry but you really need to actually KNOW something before you post in your snide and condescending manner on any of a variety of subjects.... but hey on the plus side you don't have to do that! We could just have admin put a lil disclaimer at the bottom of your sig that says:

Warning anything and everything this poster has just said is most likely just a reparroting of the fuzzy wuzzy party line that everything's all good and if you don't believe everything's all good YOU are the problem!



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:52 AM
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You are starting to sound like Alex Jones



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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This isn't a prediction thread...

And I hope you're right



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 09:53 AM
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Yup, this ship has sprung a big leak.....

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
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There's just too much "enlightenment" this week for something HUGE not to happen.


So when nothing happens will you come back here and tell everyone you were wrong?




posted on May, 15 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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I hope I'm wrong. What I would like to happen is that impeachment hearings start - including for DOJ, and DHS.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by Starchildren

Originally posted by Hitman47
another false alarm.

whenever people predicting something.

it aint gonna happen they way it was predicted.


Only one person comes to mind. 13thzodiac came here just a few days before the Aurora shooting and said a shooting was about to take place, but that person got ganged up on and literally bad mouthed and picked apart. I'm not much on predictions, I usually do not pay attention, but I keep an open mind now, and if it happens, hey, it happens. If not, then I move on and just forget it.


There is always someone saying false flag... I just aswered another thread, because of a holiday they say false flag / that not a prediction



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 01:29 PM
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Don't worry the last thing in the world the Obama white house wants is trouble right now.I can guarantee that even if there is trouble they'll just cover it up. Reminds me of jinga when you know its your turn and if you pull a piece its all going to come crashing down. Well that's the white house right now best solution to this don't move don't even breath.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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Who was I trusting exactly, or are you putting words in my mouth? Who, what crooks did I say I was trusting. I would appreciate you quote me and post back in the forum. I don't want to accuse you of lying, but if you don't respond I will take that as an admission of guilt.



I used the term, " stuff " because I know you know exactly what I'm talking
about. And you do, so think of that word as chum.
You didn't say what crooks, but I can. Everybody and anybody
associated with this rogue government and it's Nazi style
propaganda machine headed by Reuters and the Associated press.
Not to mention every single government alphabet agency.
Take it how ever you like.
And it isn't about what you'd appreciate anymore Boncho. That time has passed as you know you've
already accused me falsely of lying.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 05:53 PM
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So you are saying that any information released by government and media, is categorically false no matter what?



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by Signals
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Good post and good call....

MASSIVE FEMA/DHS exercises happening this spring and summer.

You know, just to make sure we are "prepared"



Given the massive screw-ups by FEMA don't you think they need to practice?

And considering that DHS is just a collection of pre-existing departments and may play a role in emergencies, such as the Coast Guard, don't you think they should participate also?


You would think so, but they go forward with their amateurish drills and announcements and everybody buys it. And remember, the Coast Guard was ordered to curtail their patrols due to Sequester cutbacks (we could find plenty of money if they would just shut down Homeland Insecurity). I am concerned that this July 4th, 2013 armed march on Washington will give them the excuse they need to declare martial law in Washington, DC. I am afraid Adam Kokesh is a Pied Piper leading the lambs to the slaughter. If there are no lambs, they will get them from Central Casting. Whatever it takes to declare martial law. I pray I am wrong.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
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So you are saying that any information released by government and media, is categorically false no matter what?


Neg.
But I'll take the risk and assume you're interested to know
exactly, what I feel and believe rather than just think.
I'm not bull headed or stupid enough for one second, to
think all their intrinsic information is corrupt.
But I KNOW the fact of the matter is, after a certain point, that
was surpassed long ago. It might as well be.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 06:27 PM
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Boncho, you are a very intelligent poster. I know you aren't an American citizen, but I'm pretty sure you have access to our MSM.

How can you continue to deny the possibility of a huge "event" they are willing to pull off (Pull It)
that could be in the works?

This sand castle is ready to be hit by high tide. Surely you can see where that would benefit TPTB...

What is the harm in being prepared for this?
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posted on May, 15 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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There have been a series of mass shootings recently in the United States, which led to a concerted attempt by the Obama administration to tighten up gun controls. This has been staved off for the moment.

The problem with staging a false flag event to tighten gun controls is that it is difficult to carry out an assault rifle attack that is bad enough to move the public the way false flag events are supposed to move them, in theory, that is, into a stampede to do what the government wants. A string of school shootings just hasn't done it. Shooting up Mother's Day hasn't done it.

It's hard to make the argument that a couple of nuts going nuts is reason to strike the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution. Maybe the "lone nut" argument has come back to bite the false flaggers. The government has spent decades since 1963 telling everyone that there is no reason to look too deeply into matters involving lone nuts.

The American public has complied (except for a few wierdos).

It is hard to disarm an entire population based on the actions of a "lone nut" and it is hard to conceive of a false flag event tailored to disarm an entire population, without involving the entire population in the commission of some kind of crime. Remember, in false flag events, blame has to be placed upon a target.

A false flag event is a targeted event. It seeks to achieve a change in public perception. It is a "catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor".

Americans already think the Middle East is a dangerous place full of people who don't like Americans. Americans already know that Iran is a dangerous theocracy that doesn't like America or Israel. Americans are already alert to danger overseas. If the government wanted to blame the Boston Bombing on the Russians, they probably could have manufactured a case against the FSB. They don't and they didn't.

Foreign policy wise America is on a track that they are happy with. They are already vectored on Iran. They don't have to do anything in that regard. The ball is in play in Kurdistan.

So what is it that they want to achieve? What do they want to stampede the American people into doing that they aren't already doing?

The government has a very full agenda. They are integrating economically with Mexico and Canada. They are conquering North Africa and the Middle East. They are leaning on Iran. They are pivoting to the Pacific.

I've got it!!

Venezuela. A coup in Venezuela. An American engineered coup in Venezuela would be very easy to conceal at this time, since Caprilles is not a happy guy anyway. He believes that something was stolen from him. He might be persuaded to steal it back.

I'm betting on a false flag of some kind in Venezuela, something that would lead to an invitation by Caprilles to the Americans to intervene on his behalf in that country. Fighting breaks out in Venezuela. American interests are attacked. The American Embassy is attacked with loss of life. Etc., etc., etc.

My two cents worth.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:33 PM
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but I'm pretty sure you have access to our MSM.

 


Yes, I do. American politics greatly affect where I am so I am up to date on most issues, or spend free time researching various ones when I have the capacity to do so.




How can you continue to deny the possibility of a huge "event" they are willing to pull off (Pull It) that could be in the works?


Certainly the possibility of a "huge event" exists, so too does our extinction from a rogue meteorite from outside our solar system. Probabilities though cause me not to lose sleep over such things. Added intelligence on matters, puts the chances of certain things into the very low or non existent area.

Okay I highlighted the yellow part, so "They" means the government I assume? You assume that there is something "in the works" based on what? Based on what evidence? I posed earlier, (something you completely ignored) that the government, in the last year, stopped a terrorist attack on the US. While at the same time illegally (or if it wasn't it should have been, illegal) spying on AP members.

So that kills your little idea some, this evidence. I mean, it only strengthens a "false flag" by government and media is nonsense or, it is not the main objective of such media and government. Number 1, the government did not aim to kill it's civilians here. Number 2, they violated rights of the media to do it.

In which case, you have a pissed off media, and you have a government that is taking flak for operating out of its boundaries. And in both cases its producing results that are opposite of your accusations.

But let me remind you, your probabilities for this "CODE RED" to happen is built off what evidence?

Solely that a false flag has happened in that past right? To which I present you evidence of the opposite.



This sand castle is ready to be hit by high tide. Surely you can see where that would benefit TPTB...


No actually, there isn't. You should perhaps educate yourself on actual false flags, how they come to be and why they happen. Then maybe you and the rest of the extremely misguided people in this thread wont quiver at your own delusions when you go to sleep each night.

And a sand castle, on a beach, has no bearing on anything. If you want, you can be more specific, but that takes evidence and sources, and reason, and all that. You don't have it.



What is the harm in being prepared for this?



Prepared for what exactly? I already mentioned, fear mongering, fear porn, the whole lot of it is irresponsible. It's unneeded anxiety to those dumb enough to buy into it. It's borderline fraud for those who would monetize it. (Alex Jones et al.)

But go ahead, live in fear, believe in lies, give your money to those that would take it believing lies.

I still find it extremely ironic that the whole means of bringing along these theatres is built of the notion that the MSM is lying, or the government is lying.

So with those two accusations, people created deliberate, massive lies and frauds, to make money off anyone that will listen. The pawns/victims/marks in the whole affair, are told "you are being lied to" so they switch allegiance, are lied to even worse, and subsequently open purse strings. Or give celebrity to those who are so undeserving.

No one else sees the irony here? Dear god.
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posted on May, 15 2013 @ 08:53 PM
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I think one of the most pressing questions I have for people that believe a false flag, total destruction, is imminent... is:

Given that the CIA operates in various BRIC nations and spends a decent sized budget simply working on those countries normal population to distrust their government, to feel threatened by them, and to believe they are in imminent danger from them.

1. Do you feel this is possible in the USA?

2. How do you know you are not victims of mirrored attacks by the CIA counterparts?

3. What sense does it make to do to yourself, what you do to your enemies, what benefit is there?






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