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Hemi-Sync Support for Journeys Out of the Body

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posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 07:32 AM
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Hi,
(I posted the same topic some days ago, but unfortunately I enclosed links to the Hemi-Sync site which the moderators tooks as advertising. Sorry for that...)

Anybody tried the "Hemi-Sync Support for Journeys Out of the Body" CDs?

If so, what was your impression of it?

// k




posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 02:04 PM
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In the 80s I did a whole buncha work with Hemi Sync and Shaman machines.

Never mind OBE's. Once you get into the habit of leaving your body it becomes very difficult to "keep yourself together." The spirit, knowing it can get loose, does--at the most impropitious times.

Not a good idea. Not health-some. When the spirit goes traveling, the body forgets its breathing and heart rhythms; sleep apnea and arrhythmmia set in.

Even clair audience has its drawbacks and dangers: in order to "hear" at distant ranges, one must "send out the spirit" to go-get the message. Same problem as before: breathing out of sync, blood not refreshed with oxygen, heart starts skipping, etc.

This stuff is not a toy-game with which to play around, fellas. I hope you have a good reason and some good contacts out there, to help keep you pasted back together when your body can't deal with lack of oxygen and angina--primary symptoms, messing around with OBEs.



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 10:35 PM
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I've been studying astral projection and OBEs for 3 years now and I've NEVER heard of any of the ailments described above happening to people.

Don't let people scare you out of it. This person has obviously had some bad experiences and I guess in turn thinks everyone else will as well. This is wrong!

I've never tried the Hemi Sync CD's(although I will check out the site), yet I have used CD's from Quantum Quests to some success. The key is to stay focused, "know" where your going, and of course complete relaxation.



[edit on 5-11-2004 by astralpanda]



posted on Nov, 5 2004 @ 10:42 PM
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Ive used hemisync stuff and bwgen and a few other similar products to absolutely no effect at all.
whilst the general opinion seems to be that it works on varying levels for everyone but me. I have never heard of them have any physical effects at ALL on ANYONE, except reports of a few mild headaches if used improperly.
as for Emily_Cragg's comment about the spirit leaving the body on its own accord, you can only leave the body if YOU want yourself to, and even then it apparently takes a lot of concentration and relaxation to get into the correct state of mind.
Ive heard that most of the hemi-sync stuff is very good. but the quality of them would depend on the persons ability to relax.



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 03:48 AM
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I use hemi-sync on a regular basis and have found it to be reliable. I use it before(cooldown) and during coordinate RV . The Mind Food CD Transendence track 2 without vocal address.One added feature is the ability to drown out or mute extraneous noise when trying to focus.
Parker



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 04:58 PM
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I didn't feel any physical effects of Hemi Sync until I neared sixty. Now OBE's pull me apart; but I'm too fascinated with the process to stop.

I didn't stop at hemisync. I also trained with a Shaman tone generator to follow any tone to its extremity for a while. This may be the thing that made the difference, I dunno.

But, nobody lives forever in this body anywho. So it's alright.

I just wanted to caution you, these techniques are not for toying with. You better have both a cosmic Sponsor and a useful, positive purpose for putting it to work.




posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 06:44 PM
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Hah! I think it's more of a health-risk if you don't practice OBE, AP, and other like techniques.


Hemi-Sync is cool, I have used it a few times. I like other mind music more though. You should check out the neuro-programmer too.

www.transparentcorp.com...



posted on Nov, 6 2004 @ 06:55 PM
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Yes I have I started to used them back in the 80's and they were by another company, I still have some of the old tapes around.

They work if you used them everyday, but it has to be for an extended period not just for a fews weeks for them to work.

I have used the new ones and they are ok.



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 02:22 PM
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I used something similar called holosync...and then ended up making my own cds...
I think you can see this trend more and more as people have the technology to create at their own fingertips and it no longer cost tons of money to create such material.

Gods Peace

dAlen



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 02:58 PM
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To what purpose or use are you putting this technique?

Just curious.




posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 03:11 PM
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Originally posted by Emily_Cragg
To what purpose or use are you putting this technique?

Just curious.



To perhaps expand my consciousness in order to tap into a higher realm of knowledge.
I posted something in the paranormal forum just a few minutes ago under the topic telekenesis.

I have a great grandmother who was an indian witch doctor, and another great grandmother who could make tables rise supposedly. If any of this is possible, I would think it would come through the letting go of stress (hence the use of the cds) and the development of a higher consciousness through unconditional love.

Gods Peace

dAlen



posted on Nov, 7 2004 @ 04:05 PM
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I used the simple communication exercizes in Scientology books to exteriorize the first time.

I went on to read alot of L. Ron's writings about the subject. His view was, the best state of a human is to be 3 feet off the body most of the time. His point was, you then don't have to listen to the constant crying and whimpering of the body and it is easier to fix the things that are wrong with it.

I have found this to be true.

I used to think it odd at first to exteriorize, but looking back through this life. I noticed at times there were views that I could not have had using my eyes, especially during times of emergency.

I believe if most people could do reliving of past experiences they would note that there were times when they were exteriorized, also.

Actually, from a wholesomeness point of view, reliving of past traumatic experiences is more beneficial than exteriorization in the present and it can aid your exteriorization bids.

It is the energies(+, or -) pent-up into these past traumas, and or ecstasies that detract from the enjoyment of the present. They must be deflated.

I have noticed that since I have gained the power to exteriorize at will, I can see not necessarily w/ mine eyes the point of abode of others in, or about their bodies(tell me if any of you have also noted this ability) we'll call this Spirit-Direct. In otherwords, I can see from where they hold their body. It works w/ animals as well. I don't think an animal that is not aberated(twisted from abuse) is totally in it's body.

The greater gain for your exteriorizations will, my fellow spirits, come when you relive old traumas and relieve the pent-up energies that lie within. When you relive them over and over till you get a release of energies, you will feel this release come all the way up your timeline to the present. It will be like a lightening bolt. Thereafter, you will feel lighter, stronger, and more capable, though a little shaky at first from such releases. If you do not get this kind of release from reliving a past trauma, and or ecstasy, you need to keep at it till you do.

The point is: It is NOT good to be stretched out along your timeline because it dilutes your effectiveness in the present and detracts from your enjoyment of your existence. It also distorts your view of yourself.

One last note: I believe most people exteriorize during sleep, when their control-center(brain) is not engaged and not recording the event.

Life is the search for a point to view from.

Hope this helps.







[edit on 11/7/2004 by bodebliss]



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 02:43 AM
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I think my next step to find peace and higher spiritual evolution is to be able to OBE.

I need to fill a cosmological and spiritual hole, or maybe in a better sense open a door which is locked by my mortality.

I have suffered very much in this lifetime. I am not without hope, but In order to understand myself, my feelings, and to become more in touch with my deeply spiritual side I would like to feel the embrace of the higher realms.

Please if anyone can get me informed about transcendance into the higher planes I would absolutely appreciative.

The biggest drawback I have is that I am firmly tied to this plane, but know I have a tie to the next that I need to understand before I can move my personal life forward. The hardest part about it all is that I fear I will not beable to, due to my Indigo Child/ADHD nature. Relaxation for me can be difficult due to the high speeds in which I process information, and produce thoughts. I can relax my body, but for inner peace I need to be able to relax my mind and spirit.

Many Thanks,

-ADHDsux4me "Matthew Crowhill"



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 07:17 AM
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I understand your desire, but there are no quick fixes for the human condition.

I used the communication exercizes in the books "Dianetics 55" and "Scientology: the fundamentals of thought" to exteriorize the first time, but it took a year of constantly applying the process.

Most folks give up!

If you don't give up there is a big surprise waiting at the end.

Pop! You are not human!

Your body may be, but how can you be human when you can come out of your body turn around and look at and it still lives.

My guess: it's a shell , a game piece.

Everyone has probs, everyone has challenges. You won't get any sympathy from those who have gone ahead and accomplished this feat for themselves. The reason being, no one can give the ability to exteriorize to anyone else. I can point you in the right direction, but you have to do the work. Some can exteriorize by using Hemisync tapes. They are the lucky ones. Other people's journeys are harder and more involved. These people need to resolve probs along their timelines before they can escape their chains.

Most people are so deeeep in their bodies that they are scared to think of stepping a millimeter outside. I think they are afraid of losing their forms, but that is not possible. It's yours you made it. No one else can have, nor control it.

I wish you well.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 04:06 PM
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so what exactly are the exercises?



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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I was part of the test group for Hemi-sinc by the Army in the Early 80s. They were doing it to test it's sleep enhancement abilities. It worked for me. They even had a cat nap tape that apparently induced Delta Wave sleep almost immediately... It's been ages since I've used it. The concept makes sense... They use standard relaxation techniques at the beginning and then the "Pink Noise" kicked in.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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I was part of the test group for Hemi-sinc by the Army in the Early 80s. They were doing it to test it's sleep enhancement abilities. It worked for me. They even had a cat nap tape that apparently induced Delta Wave sleep almost immediately... It's been ages since I've used it. The concept makes sense... They use standard relaxation techniques at the beginning and then the "Pink Noise" kicked in.



posted on Nov, 8 2004 @ 04:44 PM
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I have been sleeping with ambient noise source for years now (a fan) as I find it generates a very effective white noise. Lately I have felt I could reach out while sleeping and patrol the house, checking the back door, kitchen etcit seems very realistic to me. Perhaps its just my imagination working overtime.



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 02:48 AM
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I started a new thread about Hemi-Sync Catnapper, but the mod thought that I should keep all Hemi-Sync stuff together, which I do now:

In my locked post I asked whether anyone of you had tried the Hemi-Sync Catnapper and what you thought about it.

I mentioned that I had had a not-to-pleasant experience with it and this is the background of my request:

As of this writing I have tested the Hemi-Sync Surf, Pain Control and Catnapper and really liked the first two.

Catnapper sounded intriguing so I bought it as well, which in retroperspective maybe wasn't that smart:

Catnapper dragged me down into a relaxed state really quick and I got dizzy and felt as I fell through the bed I was lying on. It was a quite awful feeling I can tell you!

After a while into the CD - I think it was like 15 minutes or so - I started to hear some loud noises, which actually made me jump. I could hear faint voices too - but I couldn't make out what they said - which was was weird since Hemi-Sync accroding to their website didin't contain any subliminal messages.

Since I am not mad AFAIK (!) I dumped the whole CD as a mp3-track (to ensure that I broke the Hemi-sync noise and wouldn't be affected while listening to it again) and started hunting for the voices and the loud noises and sure enough, at the end you can hear them. The voices were quite faint, but they were there (I still have those snippets as mp3-tracks somewhere in my backups to prove it...) and the loud noises...well the noises weren't loud at all actually (but I have notived other times that Hemi-Sync can temporarily greatly enhance your senses) but when listening to the Catnapper I perceived them as loud.

Oh joy, I wasn't mad after all!


The explanation is probably that the Catnapper "program" was originally on tape first and then converted to the CD format and what I heard was "overlapping" sound from the other side of the master tape.

The guys at Monroe said it was probably only a faulty CD, but I doubt this since, if the master image is bad, probably all of the CDs out there in that batch is bad, but what do I know?

I sent the CD back to the Swedish distributor and got my money back.

I stick to Surf and Pain Controll, which AFAIK don't contain noises or voices.


// k



posted on Nov, 9 2004 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by dAlen
so what exactly are the exercises?


The exercizes are all well documented in the books "Dianetics 55" and "Scientology:the fundamentals of thought".

You might be able to find a copy at your local library.




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