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Rand Paul: Obama is working with ‘anti-American globalists plot[ting] against our Constitution.’

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posted on May, 12 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by saturnine_sweet
I gave examples of direct actions that back up accounts of stated words.


WHAT??? And you're accusing me of semantic games???
Just give a link to back up what you've claimed:

1. There's a UN Treaty that is against the US Constitution (and Obama supports it)
2. Obama has publicly said he doesn't think citizens should be allowed to own guns.


BH clearly stated a lack of interest in personal freedom


No, I didn't. You're playing games again.




posted on May, 12 2013 @ 03:09 PM
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I think we can safely say almost everyone in politics is a psychopath. Until one of us "normals" is willing to jump into the shark tank of politics, we have little hope of a sane government.

Posted elsewhere, but presented here for your entertainment
Defense Against the Psychopath Video




posted on May, 12 2013 @ 04:00 PM
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The UN by definition, goes against the US Constitution. It presents itself as a higher authority. The major US organizer of the UN was communist BTW.


United Nations Conference on International Organization

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The United Nations Conference on International Organization (UNCIO) was a convention of delegates from 50 Allied nations that took place from 25 April 1945 to 26 June 1945 in San Francisco, United States. At this convention, the delegates reviewed and rewrote the Dumbarton Oaks agreements.[1] The convention resulted in the creation of the United Nations Charter, which was opened for signature on 26 June.

The conference was chaired by U.S. diplomat Alger Hiss.[2]


What is the UN for? To check political forces in the world that are obviously bad. If they are obviously bad, why do we need the UN to tell us what to do?

The UN is part of a globalist ratchet, either it will rule the world or it will disappear.



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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Interesting that you only named republicans. Seems to me that the lib's present more of a problem than the names you named. Go ahead tow that party line. You and people like you who have no interest in the truth are just another part of the problem. As Americans we should stand together for the freedoms and rights of our great nation. The one that Obama and the rest of his crony's seem to want to tear down. Will you ever open your eyes to the truth, or can we count on you to remain blind?



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 04:58 PM
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See this article at Forbes for a different view:
www.forbes.com...
an excerpt… One hundred thirty Republican House members are skeptical of those claims. -they sent a letter to President Obama -arguing that the proposed treaty does infringe upon the “fundamental, individual right to keep and bear arms”. It warns: “…the U.N.’s actions to date indicate that the ATT is likely to pose significant threats to our national security, foreign policy, and economic interests as well as our constitutional rights.” The lawmakers adamantly insisted that the U.S. Government has no right to support a treaty that violates the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights.
…former U.N. ambassador John Bolton, has cautioned gun owners to take the initiative seriously. He believes that the U.N. “is trying to act as though this is really just a treaty about international arms trade between nation states, but there is no doubt that the real agenda here is domestic firearms control.”



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 04:59 PM
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Rand is doing the same thing

Birds of a feather flock together



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 05:21 PM
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Redistribution of wealth is a globalist concept. In a socialist society there is only two classes - the slave class n the elite class which consist of central bankers n the puppet government. Redistribution is another word for monopoly, they elite use redistribution to take out their competitors n enslave the country. They will be the only wealthy no one else will have the ability to challenge them.



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 06:35 PM
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Originally posted by WaterBottle
Rand is doing the same thing

Birds of a feather flock together


Exactly right. As the old saying goes you don't go to Washington to make laws, You go to make money.



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 06:35 PM
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As crazy as he can sound at times, he's probably right. I never supported Rand but I wish Ron was given a real chance, I supported him fully.

I feel like Obama was meant to win again, like it was preordained. Romney was a good schmuck to put in opposition since it only ensured the victory of the chosen man, only he wasn't in on the plan so he got his hefty ego bruised in the process.

Sarah Palin was an even more of a tool and I think she would have fit the role even better, had she not been herself and let her antics ruin her chances of losing when the time came.

"All the world's a stage." -Shakesbeard



posted on May, 12 2013 @ 10:23 PM
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Muse....I don't even wanna know who you would think is a solid American..Are you a citizen of the USA? Doesn't sound like it .....Your list is a joke....Bow down to the Hillary Murderer and her money hungry Liberal Billy who worships the Rockefeller....The Blindness here is incredible.....You have lost more rights that n you even know under this incredible joke of a president...the last three are all NWO.....Amazing to see how many losers are here on this site......To you I say..Shut the front door.......please start your own socialist lock step nazi country...pathetic.



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 12:05 AM
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And your father has ties to white supremacy groups, while running for president. Please, tell this man to shut up.



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by alienmma
And your father has ties to white supremacy groups, while running for president. Please, tell this man to shut up.


I think it would benefit us better for you to shut up.

He doesn't have ties with white supremacy groups, they donated to his campaign. So did MOST of the military who donated. People from the black panthers and southern poverty law group donated to Obama's campaign, but you only have something against white supremacy groups because they are white, right?



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 02:12 AM
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Rand Paul IS an 'anti-American globalist'.

He is in the pocket of those who are in the process of 'globalizing' American assets as fast as they can.



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 05:41 AM
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Ron Paul you say?

S & F.

Like a BOSS.




posted on May, 13 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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This reporter from the Washington Post, Ezra Klein, is not the sharpest tool in the shed. He claims that you "must be on the fringe" if you believe that Obama is "working with globalists" or "plotting against the constitution".

Really, asshole? Fringe? Are we seeing the same Obama? Where have you been since Sandy Hook? Obama has been on tv every other day calling for Congress to infringe on the 2nd Amendment. Even after Congress had defeated the proposed legislation to tighten gun control, he's STILL holding press conferences calling for tighter gun control; the most recent of which was yesterday. And then you have his Vice President in the wings saying Obama is ready to pass executive orders if Congress can't get it done... Hey, that's cool. When due process fails to create a law you want, just use dictator powers to make it. Good 'nuff.

Has this "journalist" never heard of the NDAA or the bank bailouts though? Does he not know what it means when the American tax payer gets put on the hook for the liabilities of multinational banks via bailouts? Does he not comprehend the implications of authorizing federal agents and local police to detain Americans without warrants or the right to a trial? Does he even know what the Constitution IS? Does he even know what Globalization is?

I don't know... Maybe he's just a globalist covering for another globalist. Because I don't see how anyone could be this daft or unaware unless they were being paid for it



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by c74r1ty44
This reporter from the Washington Post, Ezra Klein, is not the sharpest tool in the shed. He claims that you "must be on the fringe" if you believe that Obama is "working with globalists" or "plotting against the constitution".

I don't know... Maybe he's just a globalist covering for another globalist. Because I don't see how anyone could be this daft or unaware unless they were being paid for it



Hmmmmm........maybe a Zionist shill?
Any sane being can see wth Obummer is and what his agenda is about!



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 11:47 AM
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I don't know if Rand's quote hit the heart of the matter, and quite frankly, I don't care. I do know, however, that one over-riding mind set controls every action taken by Obama, namely the fact that he despises individuality with a vengeance, and his narcissistic persona controls every action that he takes. He truly wants this country to become one huge socialistic nation, where individuality is squashed, and where everyone obeys the state, which of course, he defines as those who believe that they know what is best for everyone, and that is socialism.
The good news is that all socialist societies are doomed to failure, since they eventually fail to advance society in a positive way, and the bad news is that such societies suffer for a long time, under the misguided direction of such people. Look how long it took for the old Soviet Union to dissolve under its own weight.



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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I always have to preface my statements with: "I am a conservative. I believe in small, limited, efficient government. To adhering strictly to our constitution." Because I get attacked all the time for calling out and going after our disgusting mainstream Republican and "Tea Party" members. I go after Obama and the Dems just as much, but it's like if you don't blind yourself to the "right" sides hypocrisy and only stick to bashing liberals then you must be one yourself. Insane thinking.

Anyways, Rand Paul is a wolf is sheeps clothing, along with most of the others on the Right who TALK about freedom and liberty but when it comes to walking the walk, none of them hold up.

What the globalists are doing is successfully co-oping all movements that could lead us the people on a path of victory, and they spin and corrupt those movements to lead us down a much darker road.

I cannot believe people, especially on ATS, have ANY faith or trust in a politician no matter the political party. Our system has been broken by outsiders and no real change will come from these people, no matter how good of a game they talk. I told my friends in 08 Obama was not going to change a d*mn thing. In 2012 I was telling my friends Mitt won't change a d*mn thing. In 2016 I will most likely be bashing Mr. Rand Paul again and telling my friends he will not change a d*mn thing.

They're actors. They know how to play a part. Same goes for the rest of em, politician or pundit, on both sides of the aisle. All they do is divide us even further. The only way we will ever survive this is through cohesiveness. And these people keep driving the wedge, quite successfully I might add, between any and all social groups they can find or create.

They're fascists. People are just under their spell. It's amazing to me how ignorant some are to the stinking hypocrisy, they literally DESTROY what they claim to love through their actions in DEFENSE of those things. No one sees this? United we stand, divided we fall - yet, Hey! Let's just keep blaming the other guys! The liberals! The brown people! The people who live half a world away whose culture we do not understand!

People better wake up real quick because you could easily make the argument our goose is already cooked and has been. Dare to be an optimist, dare to love your fellow man, dare to change the world, dare to have extremely high standards and morals that these "representatives" must meet. And I'm not talking "religious" morals.. We are not a theocracy. America is not just white people and Christians. That used to be what was great about America. We were a multicultural melting pot, who took people from all over the world and made them distinctly ours. The American way and mindset that they adopted and helped create was unequaled on the world stage. The evidence of the great things we've done is all around us, unfortunately it's now slowly eroding and falling apart.

Rand Paul is out there to trick some liberty minded folks. But for those of us who see through the charade and take him for what he truly is must call him out, and all others.

Just because someone SAYS they are a conservative, does not make it so.
Just because someone calls themselves a Christian, does not make it so.
Just because someone says they love freedom does not make it so.

Watch their ACTIONS. They count on your trusting nature and they will take advantage of it.

Whether you believe the bible to be literal or not it teaches many lessons that must be learned. If the antiChrist can trick the entire world, perform miracles, heal the sick and prevent war - basically be Superman and yet still be an evil SOB, who can you really trust?

I'm not saying do not trust anyone at all, but make them earn it.

As a conservative and one who would die fighting for what the Framers created, Rand Paul has not earned mine. Quite the opposite. But that's just me.
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posted on May, 13 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by MrSpad

Of course the fact that you think that the next 3 years of peace and a growing economy is some how demonic pretty much makes you the target audience of Paul.


We havent had peace and a growing economy the last 5 years, why is it going to be any different the next 3?

Our economy is weak, fragile and with all the printing of money (increase in monetary supply) over the last 5 years the inflation pressures will continue to increase resulting in a loss of buying power. This last has already begun.

The unemployment numbers improve as people exhaust their benefits and fall off the rolls.

Please do not try to foist the fantasy of a healthy economy off on me. I will blow that fallacy away with a myriad of data showing the exact opposite.



posted on May, 13 2013 @ 02:46 PM
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Don't really understand these claims from the right-wing. Capitalism has been the biggest force for globalism there has ever been. Nothing has pushed and solidified globalism as an everyday fact of life than capitalism.

How can somebody who believes in capitalism oppose globalism and globalists, when capitalism itself encourages globalism?



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