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Originally posted by tg13xr
reply to post by seabag
You admit to getting a ton of posts removed...and yet you are still here.
Please tell me you notice that most of the outspoken Liberals eventually get banned.
Just look at the top 50 members list, it has been nearly scrubbed of Liberals. Besides BH (who is just pure awesome) and the 2-3 liberal mods...the Liberals that have been on that list have been banned.
Deny it if you want, but this is a Right leaning website.
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Originally posted by tg13xr
One of the fastest ways to get yourself banned on ATS is being an outspoken liberal.
Example...if you make a claim that Conservatives tend to be racist, and you back that up with sources....banned.
However, if you make a thread claiming all liberals are racist based on your own personal opinion...it get's tons of stars and flags and is left up for all the Conservatives to jump into the thread and openly bash liberals and call them racist.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Nevermind the fact that this is pure politcal baiting...the same rules don't apply for Conservatives as they do for Liberals here on ATS. It is no secret most of the active mods are Conservative.edit on 13-5-2013 by tg13xr because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tg13xr
reply to post by seabag
You admit to getting a ton of posts removed...and yet you are still here.
Please tell me you notice that most of the outspoken Liberals eventually get banned.
Just look at the top 50 members list, it has been nearly scrubbed of Liberals. Besides BH (who is just pure awesome) and the 2-3 liberal mods...the Liberals that have been on that list have been banned.
Deny it if you want, but this is a Right leaning website.
Originally posted by beezzer
Did it ever occur to you that we "conservatives" post our thoughts in a non-confrontational manner and that we can get our viewpoint across without insults or inflammatory language?
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by tg13xr
reply to post by seabag
You admit to getting a ton of posts removed...and yet you are still here.
Please tell me you notice that most of the outspoken Liberals eventually get banned.
Just look at the top 50 members list, it has been nearly scrubbed of Liberals. Besides BH (who is just pure awesome) and the 2-3 liberal mods...the Liberals that have been on that list have been banned.
Deny it if you want, but this is a Right leaning website.
Did it ever occur to you that we "conservatives" post our thoughts in a non-confrontational manner and that we can get our viewpoint across without insults or inflammatory language?
If a republican was president the 2-faced progs would be burning effigies in the street and weeping for the 4 that died.
But a progressive president?
They call the deaths "collateral damage".
Originally posted by flobot
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by tg13xr
reply to post by seabag
You admit to getting a ton of posts removed...and yet you are still here.
Please tell me you notice that most of the outspoken Liberals eventually get banned.
Just look at the top 50 members list, it has been nearly scrubbed of Liberals. Besides BH (who is just pure awesome) and the 2-3 liberal mods...the Liberals that have been on that list have been banned.
Deny it if you want, but this is a Right leaning website.
Did it ever occur to you that we "conservatives" post our thoughts in a non-confrontational manner and that we can get our viewpoint across without insults or inflammatory language?
You mean like this?
www.abovetopsecret.com...
If a republican was president the 2-faced progs would be burning effigies in the street and weeping for the 4 that died.
But a progressive president?
They call the deaths "collateral damage".
Yes..not confrontational or insulting at all.
Originally posted by PatriotGames2
ATS may be entertainment for some, but in actuality it is a community - designed for discussion and debate. It's also a microcosm of society as a whole so anything happening in society you will see here on ATS. Our society has descended into partisanship and debate has all but been destroyed in many ways. This is not all inclusive, many of us can rise above this and do, but a lot of the time discussion has simply become childish bickering, labeling, and name calling. This may not be discrimination to some of you, but it is abusive.
I've experienced it myself and witnessed it countless times. I often have to come to the defense of people I disagree with politically because I'm sickened by the behavior I see. Let me preface this by saying this is in no way excluded to one side, but just my personal experience.
I'm a conservative libertarian to the core but I deliberately stay away from and strongly dislike those who claim to be conservatives and speak for them - like Fox News, or conservative radio types like Rush or Hannity or Savage. The type of behavior I see illustrated by these people is not intellectualism, it is bullying fascist behavior. I hate the thought of being lumped in with these people. They are always blaming everything on the liberals or the Muslims and I take offense to these things, as a conservative, because I find it to be outrageous. The thought that if you're a liberal you cannot be a patriot is ludicrous. These people always have an excuse to cover their butts when they're called out for the fascist bully's that they are.
Point is, I see this on ATS quite often, and I see it in real life from people who surround themselves with this propaganda. They mimic this behavior because it has now become the social norm. And as I stated, it is perpetrated by both sides, but as a conservative I take strong issue with it. Problem is I seem to be in the minority. Someone as strongly conservative as I am has been labeled and abused, called a liberal or socialist, simply for disagreeing with the "mainstream" views pushed forth by these charlatans who attempt to speak for us all. I agree with the OPs sentiments and I think some of you are confused as to what real debate and discussion is. People shouldn't have to develop thick skin to name calling or abuse. If you can handle someone disagreeing with you you're good in my book.
I think ATS should be conscious of this behavior and call it our or simply ignore it when encountering it. It has no place in our society and it has no place here on ATS. Plainly put, it is destructive. And both sides are doing it, that's the point. It is dividing us to the point we no longer trust someone simply because of minor differences like political ideology or religious practice, when we truly have more in common then we do differences.
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Originally posted by Slugworth
reply to post by goldentorch
The idea of there being a God is the ideology that does not allow you to question, so any secular decision made with the backing of religious ideology then puts itself beyond question
This is only true if you believe in the theology. You are free to reject the theology, and even oppose it actively if you wish. If you think it is creeping into school curriculum you can go to the school board, speak against it, rally opposition to it, and probably shoot it down legally if necessary. If you were not allowed to do this then it would be fair to say that the belief was being imposed on you.
if you are someone denied the education or methods to avoid pregnancy that can be fairly catastrophic. The teaching of creationism is catastrophic for biology, anthropology and all of the attendant sciences. The young earth side of creationism is catastrophic for geography and geology, even conservation,as trends can be important.
The role of a school in teaching sex to children is debatable. You are assuming that your position is the correct one when obviously there are many who disagree. I'm not saying that you are wrong, and in fact I agree that abstinence education is a bad idea, but abstinence education is not inherently religious in nature If a community wants it as policy and cannot have it because it bothers you isn't that the very definition of imposing your belief?
Regarding creationism and the young earth stuff: Which public school is currently teaching this as part of a science curriculum in the US? Some schools do teach a critical view of evolution. I think every school should do this. Accepting a scientific theory as a fact transforms it from science to dogma. Students should be taught to be critical of every theory. It is the essence of what science is.
The idea of religious tests for public office is catastrophic for civic responsibilities and the means to express them as well as a gross violation of human rights
If any public office has a religious test it would be a violation of Article 6 of the constitution. Where is this happening?
I see no evidence of imposition of belief in these examples .
Originally posted by tg13xr
Deny it if you want, but this is a Right leaning website.
Sophistry was once described to me as style masquerading as fact. Don't think so.