Originally posted by fltcui
I personally haven't witnessed political discrimination here on ATS. I perceive that there are more conservatives posting than liberals but I could
be wrong....but discrimination, I haven't seen it.
I consider myself a financial conservative and a social moderate and am not registered with any political party.
I try and keep an open mind when reading opinions that run contrary to my own. I figure I may learn something new.
Differing and well thought out, documented opinions is what makes this site so unique. I want to see both sides of the argument.
May I take it a step further from the OP and continue what you are intimating at, in that it is a site for people that tend to be non-conformist so do
tend to be critical of those perceived to be holding the reins of power.
One thing that dismayed me about the last American election was the obvious fraudulent hysteria whipped up by the MSM over Romney's chances of being
elected. I went on an extremely Liberal/Democratic party site to warn them of hubris immediately after the election as it was part of what I perceived
as an objective observer to be the 'playing' of the American public for the eventual total destruction of the Union, and I have to state the
creation of a theocratic State.
It wasn't just this last election, does anyone feel in retrospect that the McCain/Palin ticket stood a snowball in hell's chance of being elected?
This I feel along with Romney/Ryan shows a political party wishing to create a sense of persecution in it's own supporters, and let's deal with the
idea that they wouldn't throw their own supporters under the bus for a longer term and more insidious aim. Of course they would. Anybody truly
disagree they're all cut from the same cloth? This creation of diametric opposition has always and will always suit them down to the ground.
The last time such secessionist ideas were promulgated, though it was more single issue, was the campaign for prohibition. Then, as they seem to be
doing now, the idea of taking it straight to the house seemed to be understood as inviting defeat. Instead they worked the legislation through the
State Houses until they had enough States voting for a constitutional change, apparently back then it had to be done in a constitutional manner. If
one looks at for instance the way Illinois uses the emergency proviso in their legislature to railroad legislation through and the increasing number
of States requiring a political test for office and you can begin to see what an objective observer thinks he sees.
I have to take to task the religious elements of your politics as they have become inseparable and sadly the root cause of much of today's rancour in
politics. The Supreme Court's handing down of the decision of 1892 that America was indeed a Christian nation was unfortunate to say the least and
that through Kuyper's protege Schaeffer you have ended up with a Dominionist movement seeking to impose Biblical will on what many, many commentators
and experts alike view as a nation found as secular.
So why the loss of elections on purpose?
Well it comes in as the religious need to be perceived as suffering for their faith and what they presume as the only way. In suffering for their
faith they identify with the Jesus figure. So any vote against their candidate is viewed as a vote for Satan and moral decay no matter how sound the
policies, and of course the more liberal minds view a vote for them a vote for whack jobs and moral decay of a different sort no matter the soundness
of their ideas. The whole electorate voting on emotional issues "got to keep those '______' out at any cost, which leads to a less critical look at
your own policies and drags the debate into bitterness and hatred. Back to my point of you being 'played' by affecting the result by the sin of
omission, they omitted to put a decent candidate forward. We've seen it in the UK at most of the elections of my lifetime. As to my mind both sides
are the same the only thing they have to say are comments about how awful the other candidate is because they are all worthless.
What also is being highlighted is that slight flaw in the American character. Exceptionalism works well for you most times, apart from when you don't
get your own way. Hence the deterioration of dialogue and the airings of hatreds I thought the Americans had at least set aside even if there were
remnants of it here and there.
Just a tongue in cheek comment to finish with.
Here's hoping you get over your teenage angst and adolescently violent stage. We all might have something to shout about then.