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The Boston Bombing Wasn't Terrorism.

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posted on May, 14 2013 @ 12:22 PM
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but he is a US citizen not if he commits a terrorist act he looses his Citizen ship here is the NDAA act www.whitehouse.gov...

C. Authority to Issue Additional Categorical National Security Waivers. The Attorney General, in consultation with other senior national security officials, shall have authority to waive the requirements of section 1022(a)(1) of the NDAA in the national security interests of the United States for categories of conduct or categories of individuals consistent with section 1022(a)(4).

D. Authority to Issue Individual National Security Waivers. The Attorney General, in consultation with other senior national security officials, shall have the authority to waive the requirements of section 1022(a)(1) of the NDAA in the national security interests of the United States on an individual, case-by-case basis, consistent with section 1022(a)(4). A decision to issue such a waiver shall take into account factors such as: the legal and evidentiary strength of any criminal charges that may be brought against the individual; the likely punishment if convicted; the impact on intelligence collection of maintaining the individual in law enforcement custody; the legal and investigative risks posed by a transfer to U.S. military custody; the effect any transfer to U.S. military custody would likely have on cooperation by the individual in custody; the effect any transfer to U.S. military custody would likely have on cooperation by foreign governments in a particular investigation or related investigations; the risk associated with litigation concerning the legal authority to detain the individual pursuant to the 2001 AUMF, as informed by the laws of war; and the need to preserve a long-term disposition of the individual that adequately mitigates the threat the individual poses and protects the national security interests of the United States. A waiver is also appropriate if the Attorney General determines, in consultation with other senior national security officials, that a prosecution of the individual in Federal, State, or a foreign court will best protect the national security interests of the United States. The Attorney General may delegate this authority to any appropriate subordinate officials of the Department of Justice who hold positions for which Senate confirmation is required.
but how can you use it on a US citizen? easy, see here ndaa2012.us... now this could be pushed to the limit remember drugs dealers are lined to the Terrorist so a user is a by law "supporter" or one that give's "aid and comfort too"


(2) A person who was a part of or substantially supported al-Qaeda, the Taliban, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners, including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.


Now was the Boston bomber or the new scum charged under this law no not at all, but by rights could be.




posted on May, 14 2013 @ 01:15 PM
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Are all who light fireworks (typically explosive devices) to celebrate the 4th of July (Independence Day) terrorists?


Meaning US citizens, would be a no, however, those in the governing class are a perfect example of terrorists as per your definition in your OP when it comes to foreign policy.

Now as to the title of your thread, if it wasn't terrorism, was it an act of joy?

You mention a number of example and say they are not terrorism however without all fact involved in such occurrences one cannot say it wasn't terrorism because of no political motivation when whats known is there was no political motivation when in fact most violent acts are politically motivated whether directly or indirectly.


Its really just a game of semantics when it really doesn't matter what specific title we give to certain acts of violence, they all suck and the violent should face each other and rid themselves so the peaceful can live in peace. Oh what a dream.



posted on May, 15 2013 @ 10:30 AM
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as of yet I have yet to find one case where the NDAA act has been used , it has not been, for here is an other one where it should have been used, but was not usnews.nbcnews.com... the . line from the link

Four Minnesotans jailed for aiding Somali terrorist group al-Shabab
and now for the judgment

By David Bailey, Reuters

MINNEAPOLIS -- A federal judge sentenced four men to prison on Tuesday for helping recruit young men in Minnesota to travel to Somalia and fight for the militant group al-Shabab.

Investigators believe about 20 young, ethnic Somali men left Minnesota from 2007 to 2009 to go to Somalia to fight for al-Shabab, which the United States has designated a terrorist organization.

Three men who cooperated with investigators were each sentenced to three years and a fourth man was sentenced to 12 years in prison.

"These defendants, by providing material support to a designated terrorist organization, broke both the law and the hearts of family members across the Twin Cities," U.S. Attorney B. Todd Jones said in a statement.


Eighteen men were charged after a four-year investigation. Eight were convicted and the rest are thought to be fugitives or to have been killed in Somalia while fighting for al-Shabab.

On Tuesday, Omer Abdi Mohamed, 28, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after pleading guilty in July 2011 to one count of conspiring to provide material support to co-conspirators who intended to murder, kidnap, or maim Ethiopian and Somali government troops.

Mohamed, of Minneapolis, admitted that he helped recruits get plane tickets and helped to raise money for them to travel to Somalia to fight with al-Shabab in 2007.

Three men who cooperated with investigators were each sentenced to three years in prison by Chief Judge Michael Davis in Minneapolis federal court. Abdifatah Yusuf Isse, Salah Osman Ahmed, and Ahmed Hussein Mahamud had each pleaded guilty to one count of providing material support to al-Shabab.

Isse, 29, and Ahmed, 30, both of Minneapolis, admitted traveling to Somalia in December 2007, where they both stayed at al-Shabab safe-houses or training camps. They left Somalia together in the spring of 2008.

Mahamud, 28, a Westerville, Ohio, resident who had lived in a Minneapolis suburb, admitted in February 2012 that he helped provide al-Shabab with money and people from 2008 through February 2011.

Isse, Ahmed, and Mahamud testified at the trial of another man, Mahamud Said Omar, who was sentenced on Monday to 20 years in prison for his 2009 conviction on five counts for providing money and aiding the travel of men to Somalia for al-Shabab.

Omar, a Somali citizen who lived legally in the United States, was accused of aiding al-Shabab from September 2007 through August 2009. He was accused of providing hundreds of dollars to al-Shabab for assault rifles and of helping six men travel from Minnesota to Somalia in the fall of 2008.

Also on Monday, Davis sentenced Minneapolis resident Kamal Said Hassan, 28, to 10 years in prison. He admitted going to Somalia, where he trained at an al-Shabab camp and participated in an attack on Ethiopian soldiers, prosecutors said.

Hassan pleaded guilty to two counts of aiding al-Shabab and one of lying to investigators.

The earliest of the travelers left the United States in October and December 2007, followed by more in 2008 and 2009. Two of the travelers, Shirwa Ahmed and Farah Mohamed Beledi are believed to have blown themselves up in attacks in Somalia.
ZIG BUSH and or Obama, tyranny dead, long live true democracy the fear of NDAA being used is a fear and not fact,[ yea ok it is a MSM article and they lie all the time , even though it is by "RT" oh my,] bet you can find the court docs that back this up, that they went before a judge and got prison time not life in some camp to be kept from public eyes. but then this might be why

On Tuesday, Omer Abdi Mohamed, 28, was sentenced to 12 years in prison after pleading guilty in July 2011 to one count of conspiring to provide material support to co-conspirators who intended to murder, kidnap, or maim Ethiopian and Somali government troops.
they did not commit the act(s) to US or against the US.



posted on May, 17 2013 @ 01:17 AM
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here is the latest case that by all means should have NDAA all over it but yet again no one way trip to Git mo but goes before a Judge worldnews.nbcnews.com... from the link

Authorities arrest Uzbek man in Idaho on terrorism charges
By Pete Williams and Becky Bratu, NBC News

Federal prosecutors say a man from Uzbekistan who has been living in Boise, Idaho, was arrested there Thursday and charged with plotting to support the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan.

Officials said 30-year-old truck driver Fazliddin Kurbanov had acquired parts that could be used to make a hand grenade, including a fuse and explosive powders.

Kurbanov also distributed videos on how to make explosive devices but was "closely monitored by federal agents," prosecutors said.

Officials said he began by accessing videos online about bomb making and then started buying the components. They said Kurbanov then reached out to the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan to seek information on how to make explosives. During that time, he came to the attention of the FBI.

Officials said Kurbanov had not managed to come up with any plots or pick any targets.

He is scheduled to appear in federal court in Boise at 9 a.m. Friday, The Associated Press reported.
note no charge of WMD here, so what is it again oh yea they going to use the "Git mo on him" or NDAA , WMD ??? not so and not true so there is no fear here of it being used, when it could so easily be Bush must be crying now, no NDAA for you say it aint so, or Git mo, Rush must be having high blood presser as well.



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