WTG neocons!

Way to go guys, here's some old buddies of the man you guys re-elected...

www.truthout.org...
Jury Convicts 5 Involved in Enron Deal with Merrill
By Kurt Eichenwald
The New York Times
Thursday 04 November 2004
The first criminal trial stemming from the financial dealings at the Enron Corporation ended yesterday when a federal jury in Houston found that five defendants, including four former executives of Merrill Lynch, had conspired to help Enron report bogus profits.

When asked about his connections to Kenneth Lay, Mr. Bush literally walked off the stage during a press conference and could be heard shouting angrily at his staff... WOOT!
What was his first act in office? Notice the date of the following...

U.S. Faces Record Borrowing Requirement
By Martin Crutsinger
The Associated Press
Tuesday 02 November 2004
Washington - The federal government, running record budget deficits over the past two years, is projecting that it will have to borrow a record $147 billion in the first three months of 2005, the Treasury Department announced Monday.

Mission Accomplished...

www.truthout.org...
U.S. Forces Pound Parts of Fallujah
By Robert H. Reid
The Associated Press
Thursday 04 November 2004
Baghdad - U.S. forces pounded parts of Fallujah from the air and ground Thursday, targeting insurgents in a city where American forces were said to be gearing up for a major offensive. Three British soldiers were killed in an attack by guerrillas as they patrolled in central Iraq.
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www.truthout.org...
U.S. Job Cuts Top 100,000
By Terry Weber
The Globe and Mail
Tuesday 02 November 2004
Planned job cuts topped 100,000 for the second straight month in October, outplacement firm Challenger, Gray & Christmas Inc. said Tuesday in a report that raises more questions about the future of U.S. jobs.

You won't have much to worry about though, the cover up continues....

CIA Chief Seeks Change in Inspector's 9/11 Report
By DOUGLAS JEHL
The New York Times
KRT
CIA chief Porter Goss reportedly wants the report to defer judgments
about who should be held accountable for pre-9/11 intelligence lapses.
WASHINGTON, Nov. 1
The director of central intelligence has asked the
C.I.A.'s inspector general to modify a draft report on the Sept. 11 attacks to avoid drawing conclusions about whether individual C.I.A. officers should be held accountable for any failures, Congressional and intelligence officials said Monday.

[edit on 5-11-2004 by twitchy]

Yeh 'WTG' America, you put the biggest criminals out of the lot back in power. . . How they make you feel safer I don't know....they let the biggest terror attack happen and have been scaring the people #less non-stop since then.

impeach!

Not a single reply from the ATS conservatives on this one? No real replies to the posts on diebold either... Halliburton will be next, they are already involved in countless scandals and I would expect the same pattern of denial from the conservatives when they go down the tubes. Once you pull off the cowboy hat and put the army men back in the toy box I don't really see any appeal to the Bush administration. Denial is too often the blood/ink that writes history books.

Hey remember this war? Afghanistan? Wow not only did we get our pipline deal we threatened to bomb them for backing out on prior to 9-11, but it looks like the terror funding poppies are booming under the US lead occupation. Way to go Neocons, not only did we let an oil president drag us into an oil war, we also gave his dad back his farqing poppy fields.

www.chron.com...
Houston Chronicle
Washington Bureau
Nov. 20, 2004, 9:51AM
Afghan poppy growing takes huge leap
WASHINGTON - A huge leap in opium poppy growing in Afghanistan, revealed by a U.S. study released Friday, threatens the fragile democracy and increases pressure on anti-narcotics efforts to succeed, top federal officials said.
Afghanistan had more than half a million acres of opium poppies, which are used to make heroin, under cultivation during the 2004 growing season, according to the State Department study based on satellite images.
That is up almost 2.5 times from a year ago, government officials said.
In 2001, the last year the Taliban controlled the country, only an estimated 5,000 acres were in production, according to U.S. estimates.

Wow sounds like a pretty bad problem huh? Surely Bush is doing something about it before that stuff hits the streets and starts making billions of untraceable dollars, right?

www.newsmax.com...
Bush Will Not Stop Afghan Opium Trade
Charles R. Smith
Thursday, March 28, 2002
The Bush administration has decided not to destroy the opium crop in Afghanistan. President Bush, who previously linked the Afghan drug trade directly to terrorism, has now decided not to destroy the Afghan opium crop...
The U.S. and all its allies signed onto a worldwide ban on opium sales. In January 2002, the U.N. issued a report on the Afghan opium production, noting that allied forces needed to act quickly to destroy the 2002 opium poppy crops before the end of spring...
"Afghanistan has been the main source of illicit opium: 70 percent of global illicit opium production in 2000 and up to 90 percent of heroin in European drug markets originated from Afghanistan," states the U.N. report....
Several sources inside Capitol Hill noted that the CIA opposes the destruction of the Afghan opium supply because to do so might destabilize the Pakistani government of Gen. Pervez Musharraf. According to these sources, Pakistani intelligence had threatened to overthrow President Musharraf if the crops were destroyed.

I could do a whole other thread on the connections between Pakistani intelligence and our own CIA...
Hmmmmm Poppies and Bushies, where have we smelled that before?
Looks like "Poppy" Bush is at it again. Air America. Indochina Opium Wars.
Iran/Contra Drugs.
The article continues...

"The CIA did almost the identical thing during the Vietnam War, which had catastrophic consequences � the increase in the heroin trade in the USA beginning in the 1970s is directly attributable to the CIA. The CIA has been complicit in the global drug trade for years, so I guess they just want to carry on their favorite business," noted an allied intelligence official who works closely with U.S. law enforcement.
"The sole reason why organized crime groups and terrorists have the power that they do is all because of drug trafficking. Like the old saying, 'those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it,'" stated the official.

Before the war, we gave the Taliban millions of dollars to help them erradicate their poppies and curb the production of illicit opiates, in fact the Taliban nearly had the problem licked, and right around the same time they were offering to extradite Bin Laden to the US, right about the time we threatened to bomb them for backing out on a UNOCAl pipline deal...
They had nearly wiped out all widespread opium production.

If your still sitting there asking yourself, "what the heck are you talking about twitchy?", look into the indochina opium wars Vietnam and Bush Family involvement in clandestine drug operations.

www.wanttoknow.info...
At the start of the Contra war, the CIA and Justice Department had worked out an unusual agreement that permitted the CIA not to have to report allegations of drug trafficking by its agents to the Justice Department. It was a curious loophole in the law, to say the least.

www.whale.to...
The CIA and the Department of State were protecting more and more politically powerful drug traffickers around the world: the Mujihadeen in Afghanistan, the Bolivian coc aine cartels, the top levels of Mexican government, Nicaraguan Contras, Colombian drug dealers and politicians, and others. Media�s duties, as I experienced firsthand, were twofold: first, to keep quiet about the gush of drugs that was allowed to flow unimpeded into the US; second, to divert the public�s attention by shilling them into believing the drug war was legitimate by falsely presenting the few trickles we were permitted to indict as though they were major �victories,� when in fact we were doing nothing more than getting rid of the inefficient competitors of CIA assets. P. 266 ---Michael Levine

Clinton was a Bushie
www.whatreallyhappened.com...

ciadrugs.homestead.com...
The reputation of President Bill Clinton has been marred by allegations (stemming from his tenure as Governor of Arkansas) of corruption and involvement in the Arkansas drug trade related to CIA activities in Mena, Arkansas.

icssa.org...
usgovinfo.about.com...
serendipity.nofadz.com...
www.diggers.org...

ad infinitum



Hey Neocons, how's Sadaam Trial going by the way?

My favorite is how they are trying to change the rules to keep DeLay in power.
The same rules they created to keep a democrat OUT of power!

Criminals are ok, as long as they are their criminals!

Well I wonder what else is coming down the hill after our Mr. President gets officialy in office in January.

It is nice to own the government now things can be sweep under the table.

We will never be able to see justice served on Mr. Bush.

Let me be the first opponent to respond...

In general, i think your not going to get a lot of responce from others because responding to this only gives legitimacy to crap. (crap = constant one sided Bush bashing and ignoring that your politician has plenty of links to this kind of thing as well)
We're getting a little tired of repeted de-bunking of the same old same ole....stuff that wasnt important enough to win an election with, stuff thats not enough to garner an impeachment with, and generally stuff that shows that politicians of ALL kinds are players.

Who's in bed with whom here?
www.freerepublic.com...

Exerpt from article,

For eight years Teresa maintained a close relationship with Ken Lay. Since 1995 Mr. Lay served as a trustee of the Heinz Center for Economics, Environment and Science which Teresa founded to memorialize her late husband. Teresa, as well Fred Krupp the executive director of Teresa's main environmental philanthropy Environmental Defense Fund (EDF), also served as trustees.

Oddly, Mr. Lay served as a trustee even after Enron's demise -- a pamphlet obtained from the Heinz Center in the spring of 2003 listed him as a trustee affiliated with Lay Interests LLC. This seems odd in light of Kerry's highly critical comments of Enron.

Like J.K. didnt know about his wife's association here?

www.newsmax.com...

exerpt,

When asked about Mrs. Heinz Kerry's Enron connection, a Heinz Center spokeswoman explained to the Washington Post, "Whatever troubles he had at Enron, Ken Lay had a good reputation in the environmental community for being a businessman who was environmentally sensitive."

"When someone does wrong in one part of their life, it doesn't mean they can't do good in another part of their life," she added.

The leson to be learned here is
Dont be a party blind person....
those in positions of power play both sides of the political fence...
so do politicians.

Hello kettle? this is the pot calling you.....




[edit on 23-11-2004 by CazMedia]

We aren't talking about a Research and Development Lobby Group or John Kerry here, I was talking about Heroin, Smack, China White. Clandestine Drug Smuggling operations that can be linked directly to the Bush family. I am talking about the Bush family's long history of trading with enemies during war time. Your talking about a Lobbyist Group with as many ties to Bush/Cheney as Kerry himself, interesting connection but hardly relevant. It is an age old tactic called changing the subject...

Wow Neocons, thanks for loosing millions of dollars, there are civilians in Iraq who haven't had clean water or electricity since the US Invasion, and instead of using their non-compete contract monies to rebuild and help the Iraqi Civilians, you know the ones that aren't international terrorists, families and kids and stuff... instead of putting this money where it belongs, Halliburton "lost" it.

www.truthout.org...
Audit: Halliburton Lost Track of U.S. Property in Iraq
The Associated Press
Saturday 27 November 2004
Washington - A third or more of the government property Halliburton Co. was paid to manage for the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq could not be located by auditors, investigative reports to Congress show.
Halliburton's KBR subsidiary "did not effectively manage government property" and auditors could not locate hundreds of CPA items worth millions of dollars in Iraq and Kuwait this summer and fall, Inspector General Stuart Bowen reported to Congress in two reports.
Bowen's findings mark the latest bad news for Vice President Dick Cheney's former company, which is the focus of both a criminal investigation into alleged fuel price gouging and an FBI inquiry into possible favoritism from the Bush administration.
The Associated Press reported Wednesday that FBI agents have extensively interviewed an Army contracting officer who last month went public with allegations that the Bush administration was improperly awarding contracts to Halliburton without competitive bidding.
Halliburton and the Pentagon deny wrongdoing, and say they are cooperating in all investigations.

Hollinger, Halliburton, Enron, UNOCAl, everybody is robbing us blind, except for the Bushes, apparently they are above the law.

[edit on 27-11-2004 by twitchy]
Edit:
And in other news today, here's the new GOP policy on bi-partisanship...

Hastert Launches a Partisan Policy
By Charles Babington
The Washington Post
Saturday 27 November 2004
In scuttling major intelligence legislation that he, the president and most lawmakers supported, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert last week enunciated a policy in which Congress will pass bills only if most House Republicans back them, regardless of how many Democrats favor them.

Edit:
This means they probably won't give a damn to push Patriot Act 2 through, if they do, ATS could be considered an act of terrorism...

News Target Network
Saturday, November 27, 2004
Think the first Patriot Act was a civil rights and personal privacy tragedy? Just wait until you see Patriot Act II. Section 102 of the police state bill would make it a crime to engage in any information gathering, meaning that people who gather news headlines on the Internet would suddenly be deemed criminals and terrorists.

[edit on 27-11-2004 by twitchy]

Twitchy, as usual, thank you for the awesome post.
One can never get enough education.

Yeah, there definitely wasn't a "Love Kerry, Hate Bush" argument. This thread is against Bush and if it seems one-sided, that's because of his one-sided acitons. People don't hate Bush because he's republican, they hate him because he's screwed the world over. This goes beyond party politics and when it comes to criticism, W. deserves every bit that he receives and then some! He's a criminal, plain and simple.

Impeach him! Yeah, yeah, it sounds good but it'll never happen. Unfortunately.

"...they hate him because he's screwed the world over."
That is one line that is oft used but never explained or bolstered.

The ties are created, nothing that holds any water anywhere but on a conspiracy site. Whoppee!

Now, having said what is expected of me as a "Bushie"...
Good find!

As far as borrowing money, the deficit and the dollar being weaker, think about the benefits. It is very good strategery!

Here is an age old tactic the takers use when the natives get restless: When the takers hear the random war drums starting to beat at home stronger and stronger from the natives due to the abuses of the takers, the takers will use their well structured organization to re-create the pounding of the war drums at home with their selected target afar now being marketed to the natives. By doing so the native's attention and hostility can be carefully controlled and directed away from the takers and towards some "other" entity, the created enemy afar.

...And it's the same story here. Certain mods attack with sarcasm and ridicule couched in "mere" condescension.

...And they keep attacking until they get the reaction they want. And then they scream, "Foul!" and some poor hapless person gets booted who was saying what they didn't want to have appear in these pages.

...The rules are ONLY for us--who have no authority. You get a mod mad at you and all the rules of propriety and good manners go out the window.

...Fortunately for me, I've been in this type of combat before. And the ReTHUGS are not going to win me over. They have rolled over me just too many times; I've been inured to that game and I've developed a strong resistance to that strategy.

... I can be rule-abiding and despise Injustice just the same.