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Originally posted by stirling
Europe stripped the place once.....
Where we goin when we run out of world to conquer
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by crazyewok
I think you make a good point there and Rare Earths define it in a very meaningful way. As the name implies, these minerals are not common to find all over our planet. At least, not that anyone knows to find yet. African nations have a good % of what is known to exist...and while Bush was off playing cowboy and shooting up half the Middle East and Central Asia for 8 years...China secured a good number of the known resources for them.
We do need to counter that if we don't want to be asking China 'Pretty please' for those precious resources as they're used in so much we're coming to depend upon.
I think my main issue and alarm here is that, again, we seem to be lining up to scare and bully the living crap out of people to get what we want. Enough of this....I mean that. Enough, Enough, Enough. It was bad enough to have had "Economic Hitmen" working on behalf of Western Interests for decades before the wars began in 2001/2003. Now? We have LITERAL hitmen in the form of PMC's, Special forces in Uniform and outright U.S. Troops under Department of Defense command.
China isn't a whole lot better ...but they ALSO work to earn their way into trust and respect (whether fully sincere or not), in ways that are lasting and meaningful for their national interests. Fear, as we're pursuing things now, lasts only as long as the ability to enforce consequence remains. Respect and need? That can last generations. China knows this...we used to, but have forgotten it in exchange for expediency and direct use of force.
Originally posted by bitsoys
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
Much appreciation to Wrabbit2000 for locating and posting this information, with equal thanks to those contributing to an intelligent discussion of the matter. However, as the author of the original article, I would likewise be further appreciative if additional emphasis was placed on the source of this information: U.S. Trade & Aid Monitor (www.tradeaidmonitor.com...).
Yes, you accurately quote the FedBizOpps contractor database from which the article derives its information (while somewhere in your post linking to the Monitor site); however, it was only through painstaking database research that this material had come to light. Leapfrogging over the news source -- and, yes, U.S. Trade & Aid Monitor is a blog, but is also a provider of original news -- and largely quoting the documents that the Monitor had obtained, shifts credit -- I don't doubt inadvertently -- away from where credit is due.
Again, thank you for recognizing the value of what the original article has to offer. My goal is not to get pissy about the matter, but to encourage AboveTopSecret's consistent policy on citing news sources. May the discussion continue onward.