reply to post by AthlonSavage
Since you asked for viewpoints from different debunkers, I seem to spend most of my time on here debunking, though that is certainly not why I came
here many years ago.
When I joined ATS it was with an almost exclusive interest in the aviation forum, revealing secret projects from the past which I had researched and
found interesting. Now I have done that I rarely go there, but still find ATS a fascinating place to be.
with the rare venture onto other forums. I have read some fascinating and amazing theories on here which I would certainly not try to debunk. The
primary reason for that is that I do not know enough about the subjects to say with confidence whether something is true or not. I simply take the
views on board and consider them and will remember them when I am reading other information of the subject. I have my views on some of them, but I
cannot, with confidence, support my opinion with facts so it remains just that, my opinion.
Where this is different, and where my interest now mainly lays, is the chemtrail forum. I debunk on there whenever I get the opportunity. In fact I
did a bit just before coming here. Not in any major earth shattering way (unfortunately) but just presenting the facts as I know them to be and mainly
calling out false claims whenever I see them.
Why do I do this?
Firstly because I find the whole chemtrail theory laughable, but also, because I know people who aren't as anal as me about planes cannot see through
the crap that *some* people on there are deliberately spoon feeding them and it is a real worry to some people and, as a human being, if there's one
thing I cannot abide its people making other people frightened for kicks.
In the course of my debunking I post the facts as I know them to be, I call out falsehoods and misrepresentaions and link to real factual information
wherever its needed. Because I like a discussion I will often simply post what I have to say, being perfectly willing to discuss matters at length
logically with anyone who cares to reply.
All too often though my posts are either ignored completely (which I see as them being cowards who know they are on dodgy ground as they are only too
eager to post replies to members who are swallowing their lies), or resulting in ad hom attacks and accusations of being a paid government agent.
Now, as I sit at my PC and see accusations like that I genuinely wonder what I am supposed to make of such nonsense? After all, I know that its bull,
I know that if they actually had a reply to counter my points they would post it and I know that I will make a mental note to never take that member
seriously ever again. After all, if they are so wrong about me, what does that say for all their other theories? So what is the point of this
I can only conclude that its a combination of petulance coupled with a desire to try to deflect anyone else from believing what I write.
But I dont ask *anyone* to believe what I write, unlike the chemmies, I simply put the info forward. Members can take it on board, research it for
themselves or dismiss it entirely as they please. In posting the correct facts I have played my part already.
So what is the point in anyone jumping up and down screaming 'shill, shill!" Metaphorically speaking. Those types are the most ridiculous of all
conspiracy theorists because they claim to come here looking for truth, then when somone gives it to them they resent it and become obnoxious and
offensive. Thankfully those types dont seem to hang around as they have their fun and toddle on.
Now is it possible there could actually be disinfo shills on ATS? I dont see why not, it would be easy to do, but it only ever gets thrown about by
people who are already losing the debate so that kind of diminishes the claim in the first place.
As regards debunking itself, I dont get why its a dirty word almost on here. Surely removing bunk allows the truth to be seen, if that truth is not
the one the theorist was working on thats just too bad, surely?