*** OH and just for good measure.. I was bashing Jehovah - God of Israel in my post. Not God the divine.***
I am far to often shocked at how little 'christians' know about there own religion.
well 1st of all we need to define who was given gods word and when. Was it: Adam, Abel, Anna, Daniel, David, Enoch, Jesus, Jacob, John the Baptist, Jonah, Judas, Noah etc... Salih perhaps - sorry wrong book . te he
'God' to me personally is infinitesimally unimaginable to the human mind. To even begin imagining gods rule and relm is mind boggling.
Gods word - that always gives me a chuckle. Infinite knowledge and divine being and he speaks to his 'prophets' in english... well hebrew if you want to get technical, depends which book and version you read.
I believe jesus was delusional but with the best of intentions.
The mental and physical trauma that man was exposed to is enough to drive anyone to voices in your head. Not to mention the pure *insert drug reference against ATS T&C* he did in the desert.
OH and just for good measure.. I was bashing Jehovah - God of Israel in my post. Not God the divine.***
This really depends on who you believe these people are... IF one bases his thoughts on what each of these people said, and their actions described within said book... Theres only one real answer... Adam was likely a myth based on the simple fact that there was no time in our past history where there was only one man on the planet... Out of all of these people only one person declared himself to be the truth... and by reading what was written about said person... The feeling one gets about him is that he was "the truth" as he said.
You might like reading this...
Now is that assumption based on what you know of the church and what they say about him... or from reading his words? I don't understand how one can come to such a conclusion...
That's speculation... I've also heard the same thing about John when he wrote revelation... at least that is partially believable... IF one is wandering in the desert for whatever reason.... Drugs would be the last thing on his mind...
Ha ha! Look ma i'm being educated
Agreed about Adam, although reading through the Quran gives interesting insights into the supposed character. It's thinking about these things that makes me wonder what the world could be like if all scholars from all religions, the top minds in science and the top historians could work together, CAN YOU IMAGINE! Just what a wonderful scope of knowledge we could uncover. Im practically frothing at the mouth thinking about it.
Yeah... this is were people get a little 'whaaaa?' on me. So after jesus was led into the Judaean Desert by the holy ghost to fast for 40 days and 40 nights right, there was little he could drink. Water was scare and even 'the son of god' couldn't conjure it up out of thin air.
It's little known and rarely documented that the Organ Pipe Cactus native to Judaean desert. When the body is under extreme conditions of dehydrations the body is susceptible to the psychoactive alkaloids contained in the juices of the cactus. They have the effect similar to that of taking a batch of pure L#D. Jesus drank from this cactus to survive.
It's a loose connection to his overall life but drugs have effects on the mind and body losg after the ware off.
Originally posted by shinethelight
reply to post by backcase
Well said. Your a light in darkness. Don't be discouraged by unbelievers or the hate posts that come from this. People who don't know God, also don't know what real love is. (Agape love)
If they persecute Jesus, they will persecute you.
To all the unbelievers, atheists, and haters, well I'm told to love you, but have nothing to do with stupid arguments. It's not true that all roads lead to heaven. We all die one day, if you don't want anything to do with God, don't expect Him to welcome you into His house when that day comes. He loves you, in case you didn't know.
** beginning of rant**
Right! Lets stop right there shall we sir/madam.
"People who don't know God, also don't know what real love is"
** End of rant**
Originally posted by backcase
reply to post by MongusePro
"I'm a non-believer.. I have no affiliation to any party, creed nor religion. I have a partner who i love with all my heart and i feel her love."
Love for the spouse is the third highest love that man can achieve.
The second is the love for parents as a child or baby.
The Most High Love is God, being in the espousal of our souls to the Lord Jesus Christ.
If you care for information on it, look up the book "dark night of the soul", read from Rumi, revelation, and St. Teresa Avila.
"It's brainwashing nonsense like that i CAN'T STAND. Those that have not been accepted into or accepted gods word/house are perfectly able to experience all the love the universe has to offer. "
You are getting mad over something that you do not understand. You call it "brainwashing nonsense" but either way, you are deflecting and closing your heart to this information.
And if you were experiencing all of the love the universe has, would you respond in a rant towards your fellow human being? or would you seek understanding of them with love?
"YOU being affiliated with god on this earthly plain gives you no more love then another other human being."
Correct, God loves each and every person just as much as He loves you. But the love you give is proportionate to the love you receive.
"What you experience with god's 'love' is all in your head"
Why would I trust you? Love comes from the heart.
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