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Originally posted by IgnoranceIsntBlisss
reply to post by frazzle
Honestly, if I had time I would, but I haven't been able to tune into the deeper controversies, the behind the scenes stuff. Can only hold fast on the front lines of what was in everyones faces, the civil liberties side of this.
But do note I mostly worded my part here in terms of the shootout. If cops are after you, especially when the lead suspects in multiple homicides, and you shoot at them, the body count is on your head, and youre forever guilty in C o Public opinion.
Likewise, I expect those kids surely did do the crime. But like Lee Harvey Oswald, that doesn't mean the story ends there, and look forward to seeing the cleaned up results of all the digging in the fog so many have been doing.
9b0Keep in mind, there didn't even have to be other shooters in the JFK case, the unprecedented number of witnesses found dead, much like the 25 dead Navy SEALs that 'killed' 'Osama', that, and motives, is all that even has to be presented for a conviction in a proper system of justice.edit on 11-5-2013 by IgnoranceIsntBlisss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by OutonaLimb
Originally posted by eisegesis
Someone should make a new thread, (I know...) and condense all of the information during the day of the bombing and also the day of his capture. We need all statements and testimonies in one location to properly cross examine this event. A timeline would be nice to coincide with the events as well.
I am trying to keep my sanity while reading these threads and I keep becoming more confused. Maybe confusion comes more naturally to me than others though.
what do you think would happen if the world found out that this
was all fabricated BS?
(1) The FBI who received a rare warning from Russian officials about Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2001, actually interviewed Tamerlan and fully vetted him vetted Tamerlan but their probe not produce any 'derogatory' information and the matter was put 'to bed.' The FBI was unaware of Tamerlan's six month trip to Russia due to a spelling error.
The most charitable theory, to me, would be that this Boston bombing may have been a particularly nasty example of blowback. Certainly there is reason to look carefully at the possibility of some US effort having been made to recruit at least Tamerlan, the older Tsarnaev brother, to work against Russia -- an effort that might then have backfired if he later turned against his American "handlers" for some reason, ...
There are, of course, also darker possibilities, which an honest and thorough investigator would want to follow. A key would be knowing what if any contacts there were between either of the Tsarnaev brothers and the CIA.
In fact, if anything, Tamerlan, allegedly the dominant figure of the pair, to the extent that he had been political at all, had seemingly been more focused on the suffering of his native Chechens and fellow Muslims in Russia, which would make an attack on the US a peculiar turn indeed.
Originally posted by bronto
What happened to North Korea and their Threats ? to attack America ,which seemed to suddenly stop with the Boston bombing ? did Kim get scared when he saw that ? or its football season over there now ? did he meet a new girl ? or the CIA decided to post phone this fake threat from NK ?
Tamerlan didn't believe the 911 commission report.
Again, it doesn't matter what you suspect. There is no evidence showing your suspicions are based on more than an acceptance of the official pronouncements.
Originally posted by eisegesis
Tamerlan didn't believe the 911 commission report.
Got a link for that?
Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Thomas H. Kean, Former Governor of New Jersey
"FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue...We, to this day, don't know why NORAD told us what they told us...It was just so far from the truth."
Vice Chairman, 9/11 Commission, Lee Hamilton, Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, Homeland Security Advisory Council
"we got started late; we had a very short time frame...we did not have enough money...We had a lot of people strongly opposed to what we did. We had a lot of trouble getting access to documents and to people. ... So there were all kinds of reasons we thought we were set up to fail"